If the theorists are right...

[Nolaphoto1]

If the theorists are right and the UN morphs from a pseudo power to a full fledged world government/union and the small arms treaty is ratified by congress, would you be willing to sacrifice your life to defend the fundamental and god given rights as so eloquently written by the US constitution? Are you willing to face imprisonment, trial, and punishment so your children and your grandchildren may live in a country free of tyranny and oppression? Are you willing to sacrifice everything you know to defend America as your fathers and grandfathers did, to defeat a growing threat that hasn't been seen since WWII? Are you willing to be captured, tortured, and branded a traitor? Are you willing to stand among the ranks of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams? It may not be now. It may not be tomorrow. But someday soon, America will need a new breed of patriots to defend her tyranny.

[ponycar17]

The Useless Feeders would respond by asking...

"I don't know... What they gunna give me?"

I fear that the type dominates our current society.

[Bobitis]

Useless feeder???
What was that about?


Nolaphoto1, your question has too many ambiguities.
If I fought for my my/families rights, and was convicted of doing so, my family would have no rights after that.

I guess that's a yes?

[ponycar17]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Useless feeder???
What was that about?

The forum concatenates "Originally Posted By" whenever it sees the 'QUOTE=xxxxx' text so it probably doesn't read correctly. I wasn't referring to the original poster. What I was referring to is the generic 'Useless Feeder' who is generally characterized by their apathy and tit-suckling leech-like dependency on the government. That person would ask, "I don't know... What they gunna give me?". By my own wild guess estimates I'd venture to bet that there are so many of those types in the US that globalist initiatives would be met with almost no resistance. I was being facetious in my previous post. I'll correct the text to be more clear.

[Eddie N]

Originally Posted by Nolaphoto1

If the theorists are right and the UN morphs from a pseudo power to a full fledged world government/union and the small arms treaty is ratified by congress, would you be willing to sacrifice your life to defend the fundamental and god given rights as so eloquently written by the US constitution? Are you willing to face imprisonment, trial, and punishment so your children and your grandchildren may live in a country free of tyranny and oppression? Are you willing to sacrifice everything you know to defend America as your fathers and grandfathers did, to defeat a growing threat that hasn't been seen since WWII? Are you willing to be captured, tortured, and branded a traitor? Are you willing to stand among the ranks of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams? It may not be now. It may not be tomorrow. But someday soon, America will need a new breed of patriots to defend her tyranny.

Do you mean "from tyranny"?
As I remember history, it was done in 1775. I believe we are on that track again. Whenever it comes, Lord willing, I will be right there and ready to fight!

[Nolaphoto1]

Maybe the question was too emotionally charged. I've noticed that some people say they'll defend freedom on a whim. I was just wondering, after one considers all of the ramifications for doing so, whether he or she would be willing to endure the sacrifices and circumstances that will come with defending certain freedoms, should the need arise. Had the American Revolution failed, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Adams, and the rest of the supporting colonists would have been tried for treason and either jailed or executed.

When a government treads on that nation's constitution it is the responsibility of the people to guarantee their own freedoms. My question is dealing in a hypothetical future where the theorist who believe that the UN is set on a passing a small arms treaty, disarming Americans, and forming a governing body that supersedes national governments, are proven correct. In such a situation, after careful consideration, would you violate the disarmament requirements, form weapons caches, and take up arms in support of a 2nd revolution?

[Eddie N]

In a word, YES!

[jack404]

Nolaphoto1

from what i am seeing its not us that you should be asking

its too late for Australia they have alrady done it

and they are working on th rest of the world

for the US its not the folks on this forum that you should be asking but thier kids

read the page of the report on global government

they see the US as the holdout and china but china has no democracy to corrupt


with the US holding out and the rest of the world brought into the fold then is when they'll make thier move

they realise they wont get the clean sweep they tryed with BO Bo

but he can still set the laws to such that they make it possible in the future

if you educate your kids, let everyone know whats happening, stop this importing of everything and funding everyone else they cant do it

simple

but buy weaking your ecomony buy importing so much and putting your own people out of work you mke it possible long term

yes you wont be able to by chinese made flat screen so cheap

no the big company profits wont be so high

but people will have incomes

they'll pay taxes
less will be reliant on welfare
and even if the rest of the world becomes like Australia,

you wont ( have to) ..

thye did not get thier nationalised health plan through they need that for other stuff

they realise Bo Bo is sprung for what he is

and thats why all the closed door meetings

one day they'll try it

but not today it'll be in your kids day

they are the ones who have to answer that..

ensure they never have to ..

cheers

jack

[topper]

I will defend my freedom with my life, anytime. I'm too old, sick and broke to live as a slave.

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by Nolaphoto1

If the theorists are right and the UN morphs from a pseudo power to a full fledged world government/union and the small arms treaty is ratified by congress, would you be willing to sacrifice your life to defend the fundamental and god given rights as so eloquently written by the US constitution? Are you willing to face imprisonment, trial, and punishment so your children and your grandchildren may live in a country free of tyranny and oppression? Are you willing to sacrifice everything you know to defend America as your fathers and grandfathers did, to defeat a growing threat that hasn't been seen since WWII? Are you willing to be captured, tortured, and branded a traitor? Are you willing to stand among the ranks of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams? It may not be now. It may not be tomorrow. But someday soon, America will need a new breed of patriots to defend her tyranny.

The small arms treaty won't be ratified first and foremost. There would be MASS opposition. I would fight to save the country that members of my family risked their lives to defend.

Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams were branded as traitors too weren't they?

Some people get "patriotism" mixed up with "nationalism." They think patriotism means standing up for whatever your government (USA) thinks is right. Patriotism means you are willing to defend against the tyranny of your own government.

The 2nd amendment's preservation is as important as the Constitution itself. If these people are willing to draw a line through it for what they think is "safety" or "the right, good, thing to do," they might as well draw a line through the USA, our Constitution and everything we stand for.

The 2nd amendment is not there for protection from criminals, or to make us all gun toting rednecks. It's there because the Founding Fathers wanted us to have the means to rise up in defense of what they and the other Americans fought to create - a democracy. For the people, by the people. You can vote, yeah, but what do you do when you have to choose between a turd and a douche?

Politicians today forget - the Constitution is like the Magna Carta - it is a system of limitations of the government's power - not the peoples'.

[jack404]

Hogger

sometimes you hit the ten ring dead centre

this is one..

spot on !!

cheers

jack

[armedandsafe]

I have certain, innate, G_D given rights to speech, security from government intrusion into my private life, to keep and bear arms, and many others.

One of those rights is my right to die, if necessary, to defend these rights for all who adhere to this country's founding principles.

I exercise my rights when it is appropriate. I never relinquish any of those rights because somebody claims to have the power to take them away from me.

Pops

[rentalguy1]

As I've said on prior threads, I wrote a blank check to this nation, payable with up to and including my life, in 1990. As far as I know, it did not have a expiration date. The only think I will add is that they will not take me alive.

Give me liberty, or give me death!

[Hardballer]

10+ Hogger.

Right on target.

[Terry_P]

From my cold dead hands. Our state motto says it all: Live Free or Die.

[red14]

Give me Liberty . . . .

[keepitlow]

Originally Posted by Nolaphoto1

If the theorists are right and the UN morphs from a pseudo power to a full fledged world government/union and the small arms treaty is ratified by congress, would you be willing to sacrifice your life to defend the fundamental and god given rights as so eloquently written by the US constitution? Are you willing to face imprisonment, trial, and punishment so your children and your grandchildren may live in a country free of tyranny and oppression? Are you willing to sacrifice everything you know to defend America as your fathers and grandfathers did, to defeat a growing threat that hasn't been seen since WWII? Are you willing to be captured, tortured, and branded a traitor? Are you willing to stand among the ranks of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams? It may not be now. It may not be tomorrow. But someday soon, America will need a new breed of patriots to defend her tyranny.

I'd suggest you have duplicate caches of guns and ammo and study up some of the suggestions on storing guns for future need.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...w+to+bury+guns


But, it would not come to that IF Americans had some balls and were unionized in their effort. And most important...the citizens had some 'self sufficiency' for such a strike.

If and when America is ready for a revolt over the travesty of American political system, all you have to do is to follow the lead of our politicians and DO NOTHING.

No need to resort to violence. The gov will always win such a battle. And if the citizens act up too much ... the gov will microwave you!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System

But, by the citizens doing nothing, America can be shut down by a well placed completely peaceful strike. Just the truckers, airline pilots, doctors and utility workers could shut the US down if they ever got pissed at the corrupt politicians.

When it comes down to it, we are dependent on strong government to keep the invading armies at bay. But everyday life is NOT dependent on the politicians flapping their jaws and blowing hot air out their ass.

What we are dependent on is each other and our cooperation at making life livable from the lowest **** shoveler and up the ladder to the highest doctor or airline pilot.

But coming back to reality...the citizens of the US of A are...IMPOTENT and COWARDS. They will do nothing but keep taking it in the rear from their beloved 'political deities'

Anyway, the gov has welcomed all this recent fear based boost in business for guns and ammo the last couple years. They will take any boost in the economy they can get to keep the Ponzi scheme going for now. But sooner or later their long term goal of confiscating all guns will prove more desirable to them than supporting a few jobs.

When firearms go...all goes...so they might as well be cutting your balls off when they show up for your guns.

The writing is on the wall. All guns must be confiscated before the class wars get out of hand. As the disparity between the rich and poor escalate, the poor will start class wars as they have done throughout history when he rich crowd out their very survival through greed.

The poor have no other alternative-do they? The rich control the gov and only pass legislation to benefit the rich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict

Guns are a populations last line of defense. Look at Afghanistan...they beat Russia with guns. And the US is still having trouble with the people there from their guns.

Let's look at what happens when a country has no guns. Burma was a recent example of what happens. A dictator comes to power with plenty of guns, but when it comes to the populace...they cannot be trusted with guns.

This quote was attributed to George Washington but other authorities say it is a counterfeit quote. Whomever said it...it is gospel.

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related. From the moment the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable. Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. When firearms go, all goes; we need them every hour."

[mncarpenter]

Originally Posted by hogger129

...The 2nd amendment is not there for protection from criminals, or to make us all gun toting rednecks. It's there because the Founding Fathers wanted us to have the means to rise up in defense of what they and the other Americans fought to create - a democracy. For the people, by the people...
Politicians today forget - the Constitution is like the Magna Carta - it is a system of limitations of the government's power - not the peoples'.

I think the Founding Fathers not only want citizens to be able to defend the Constitution and Freedom, but insist on it.
Good post.
What's wrong with being a gun-toting redneck??

[petesusn]

Originally Posted by red14

Give me Liberty . . . .

You might have to TAKE it red. As for me, there will be many blue helmets stained with red (not you red, the color) bullet holes before they get me.

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." Isoroku Yamamoto

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." Author unknown

[Double D]

If there is a group already forming, would someone please send me a private message with the info. Im ready.

[flintlock]

I'm not able to run. I'll stand and fight.