Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? - The Firearms Forum

fleetwood1976 · 01-23-2010, 05:03 PM

I have this gun on another post but i will use it as an example. First off there is the military history of being a brazilian contract. I appreciate the history this gun has seen. It is my 1st N frame smith, so it is iconic to me. It shoots a 45 acp round with moon clips, how cool is that. The grips I found online for $10. They were made for or by a Florida Deputy Sherrif. great quaility and workmanship, but homemade and not in demand. The grips are as historically neet as the gun. Its like the saying "If walls could talk." I would love to know what my vintage firearms have seen and been through. I guess what I am trying to say is that I see a tremendous amount of character and attitude and style in a gun, where other people see a 1917 DA 45 Brazilian contract Smith and Wesson. $350 to $500. I guess I get way to sentimental about some of the guns in my collection.

mrkirker · 01-23-2010, 05:07 PM

Fleetwood, you listen and hear whispers of 'what was'. Many wonder 'if this could talk'. Its one of the more enjoyable facets of 'firearm owner-ship'.

johnmpeters · 01-23-2010, 09:40 PM

Kirker said it beautifully. I'm always intrigued by the idividual history of an item, especially when it's a firearm. By the way, thats a fine pistol. I absolutely love a revolver in 45acp.

cakes · 01-23-2010, 10:07 PM

If that gun could talk, it would probably tell you to stop shooting Wolf ammo.

Just pulling your chain. Nice gun. I like those grips.

fleetwood1976 · 01-23-2010, 11:51 PM

Everybody gives me grief about wolf ammo. I don't reload, It is cheeper and I clean my guns after every outing so I don't have a problem with the residue. I try to stay away from using it in semi autos if I can avoid it. Besides, the dirtiest ammo I ever shot was Winchester super X bulk 22lr's. I don't depend on it for accuracy either. It is mainly for plinking and messing around.

Maximilian II · 01-24-2010, 01:23 AM

Fleetwood, I once bought an Enfield for $65 just because of the WWII markings, just assumed it might shoot. Didn't care if it wouldn't. It just "spoke" to me.
It shoots better than I do....
Apparently it has some memories I wasn't there for.

TCoggins · 01-24-2010, 08:27 AM

I feel the same way. I have a few Mosin Nagants, which are very inexpensive to own and shoot. When people suggest I sporterize them, or mount a scope, I get upset. There's a lot of history that could be destroyed if that happened.

I also have an FN 1922 (Browning design), in .380. Based on the markings and serial number, I have estimated its manufacture date around 1926-1930. It has also spent time in either the Dutch Military or Dutch police.

Your Smith is awesome.

Tim

fleetwood1976 · 01-24-2010, 09:15 AM

Those mosin nagant rifles are spell binding. i picked up one for steak dinner price at an auction. I find myself many an evening investigating the proof marks. It was a 1941 finnish capture 91-30 that was reworked to accept the D-166 round. It was Izhesvk complete numbers matching. So far all that I have found out is interesting but does not make it worth anymore. I got my eye on a model 44 at a pawnshop. It is newer and laminate stock. My 91-30 needs a little brother.

vulcrider · 01-24-2010, 10:09 AM

i don't know if we get too sentimental about our guns. Some of us buy and sell guns the same way a used car dealer buys and sells automobiles...just a commodity to make money. Their choice and gives some of us a chance to own something that we may not normally get the opportunity for. Some of us buy guns for their brand, function, style, capability, etc. But, after watching the Barrett-Jackson auction this week, I took a different attitude towards the guns I own and hope to own. Most of the cars I saw going across the block, perfectly restored, matching numbers, paint better than original, although beautiful (and I wouldn't mind having a 1970 Boss 302 or a 1971 hemi 'Cuda convertible!) just seemed to have lost that connection that we associate with a gun. Where's the history, the personal attention, the things that make a gun unique to the person that owned it? A gun is one of the few tools in man's history that is a true extension of themselves, whether in how its used, what it was used for or just how it feels as a part of them.
Don't get me wrong, the people who collect fine things (cars, paintings, women!?) aren't doing anything negative, but a gun that Grandpa used to get his first deer as a boy, an M1 that helped win a war, or even a gun used infamously all have a curious emotional attachment that we all appreciate.
Don't think we can ever be too sentimental/emotional about our firearms.

Trouble 45-70 · 01-24-2010, 01:18 PM

19xxx rang. Fun to shoot, looks about the same condition, bore good original stocks. Located by my elbow. Like your grips.

Yes I am emotionally attached to most of my firearms. Why not? I'm emotionally attached to that last pot of chili I made too.

LurpyGeek · 01-24-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fleetwood1976

Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns?

Yes. Next question?

topper · 01-24-2010, 03:38 PM

Being passionate about firearms is, IMO, only natural. After all, it is a symbol of power and an instrument of precision craftsmanship. What more could a person ask for?

james56 · 01-24-2010, 05:20 PM

Fleetwood this one spoke to me it's a 1917 US Army and has WWI history along with being carried by the Police Cheif of Travis MI. P. D. and then he also carried it as Police Cheif of Lakeland Fl. P.D He had it Reblued by S&W in 1979 and he had it letterd by Mr.R.Jinks S&W Historian. I replaced the original Grips with the Ivories and a Tyler T Grip Adaptor.
the other one with stags I bought real cheap online live auction @ Proxiebid.com that was fun. The reblue was fine, except for blue the trigger and hammer (a no-no) (not S&W) But was over polished. It is a great shooter for the price. Hope you enjoy yours as I do mine.
james56 S&WCA

Gabob · 01-24-2010, 08:51 PM

I have several old military weapons that I wish could talk. One is a US Model 1816 musket. Also a revolver with a notch filed in the grip. Bet that one has an interesting history

01-23-2010, 05:03 PM	#1
fleetwood1976 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Indiana Contributor Posts: 1,339	Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? I have this gun on another post but i will use it as an example. First off there is the military history of being a brazilian contract. I appreciate the history this gun has seen. It is my 1st N frame smith, so it is iconic to me. It shoots a 45 acp round with moon clips, how cool is that. The grips I found online for $10. They were made for or by a Florida Deputy Sherrif. great quaility and workmanship, but homemade and not in demand. The grips are as historically neet as the gun. Its like the saying "If walls could talk." I would love to know what my vintage firearms have seen and been through. I guess what I am trying to say is that I see a tremendous amount of character and attitude and style in a gun, where other people see a 1917 DA 45 Brazilian contract Smith and Wesson. $350 to $500. I guess I get way to sentimental about some of the guns in my collection. Attached Images -->

01-23-2010, 05:07 PM	#2
mrkirker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,067	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Fleetwood, you listen and hear whispers of 'what was'. Many wonder 'if this could talk'. Its one of the more enjoyable facets of 'firearm owner-ship'. __________________ *I don't know if dogs have a heaven, but there will be dogs in mine.*

01-23-2010, 09:40 PM	#3
johnmpeters V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Interlachen, FL Posts: 134	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Kirker said it beautifully. I'm always intrigued by the idividual history of an item, especially when it's a firearm. By the way, thats a fine pistol. I absolutely love a revolver in 45acp. __________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. Bailouts: From each according to his ability, to each according to his lack thereof.

01-23-2010, 10:07 PM	#4
cakes V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Maine Posts: 230	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? If that gun could talk, it would probably tell you to stop shooting Wolf ammo. Just pulling your chain. Nice gun. I like those grips. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, shoot, shoot again.

01-23-2010, 11:51 PM	#5
fleetwood1976 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Indiana Contributor Posts: 1,339	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Everybody gives me grief about wolf ammo. I don't reload, It is cheeper and I clean my guns after every outing so I don't have a problem with the residue. I try to stay away from using it in semi autos if I can avoid it. Besides, the dirtiest ammo I ever shot was Winchester super X bulk 22lr's. I don't depend on it for accuracy either. It is mainly for plinking and messing around.

01-24-2010, 01:23 AM	#6
Maximilian II Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Northwest GA Posts: 1,385	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Fleetwood, I once bought an Enfield for $65 just because of the WWII markings, just assumed it might shoot. Didn't care if it wouldn't. It just "spoke" to me. It shoots better than I do.... Apparently it has some memories I wasn't there for. __________________ Karma is just justice, without the satisfaction. And I don't believe in justice. -Joe Sarno, bagman.

01-24-2010, 08:27 AM	#7
TCoggins V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 109	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? I feel the same way. I have a few Mosin Nagants, which are very inexpensive to own and shoot. When people suggest I sporterize them, or mount a scope, I get upset. There's a lot of history that could be destroyed if that happened. I also have an FN 1922 (Browning design), in .380. Based on the markings and serial number, I have estimated its manufacture date around 1926-1930. It has also spent time in either the Dutch Military or Dutch police. Your Smith is awesome. Tim

01-24-2010, 09:15 AM	#8
fleetwood1976 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern Indiana Contributor Posts: 1,339	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Those mosin nagant rifles are spell binding. i picked up one for steak dinner price at an auction. I find myself many an evening investigating the proof marks. It was a 1941 finnish capture 91-30 that was reworked to accept the D-166 round. It was Izhesvk complete numbers matching. So far all that I have found out is interesting but does not make it worth anymore. I got my eye on a model 44 at a pawnshop. It is newer and laminate stock. My 91-30 needs a little brother.

01-24-2010, 10:09 AM	#9
vulcrider V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 72	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? i don't know if we get too sentimental about our guns. Some of us buy and sell guns the same way a used car dealer buys and sells automobiles...just a commodity to make money. Their choice and gives some of us a chance to own something that we may not normally get the opportunity for. Some of us buy guns for their brand, function, style, capability, etc. But, after watching the Barrett-Jackson auction this week, I took a different attitude towards the guns I own and hope to own. Most of the cars I saw going across the block, perfectly restored, matching numbers, paint better than original, although beautiful (and I wouldn't mind having a 1970 Boss 302 or a 1971 hemi 'Cuda convertible!) just seemed to have lost that connection that we associate with a gun. Where's the history, the personal attention, the things that make a gun unique to the person that owned it? A gun is one of the few tools in man's history that is a true extension of themselves, whether in how its used, what it was used for or just how it feels as a part of them. Don't get me wrong, the people who collect fine things (cars, paintings, women!?) aren't doing anything negative, but a gun that Grandpa used to get his first deer as a boy, an M1 that helped win a war, or even a gun used infamously all have a curious emotional attachment that we all appreciate. Don't think we can ever be too sentimental/emotional about our firearms.

01-24-2010, 01:18 PM	#10
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? 19xxx rang. Fun to shoot, looks about the same condition, bore good original stocks. Located by my elbow. Like your grips. Yes I am emotionally attached to most of my firearms. Why not? I'm emotionally attached to that last pot of chili I made too. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

01-24-2010, 03:38 PM	#12
topper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: deep in the woods Posts: 748	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Being passionate about firearms is, IMO, only natural. After all, it is a symbol of power and an instrument of precision craftsmanship. What more could a person ask for?

01-24-2010, 05:20 PM	#13
james56 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Vero Beach Florida Posts: 5	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? Fleetwood this one spoke to me it's a 1917 US Army and has WWI history along with being carried by the Police Cheif of Travis MI. P. D. and then he also carried it as Police Cheif of Lakeland Fl. P.D He had it Reblued by S&W in 1979 and he had it letterd by Mr.R.Jinks S&W Historian. I replaced the original Grips with the Ivories and a Tyler T Grip Adaptor. the other one with stags I bought real cheap online live auction @ Proxiebid.com that was fun. The reblue was fine, except for blue the trigger and hammer (a no-no) (not S&W) But was over polished. It is a great shooter for the price. Hope you enjoy yours as I do mine. james56 S&WCA Attached Images Last edited by james56; 01-24-2010 at 05:27 PM.. Reason: pic's

01-24-2010, 08:51 PM	#14
Gabob Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SW GA CSA Posts: 1,162	Re: Does anyone else get way to wrapped up in their guns? I have several old military weapons that I wish could talk. One is a US Model 1816 musket. Also a revolver with a notch filed in the grip. Bet that one has an interesting history __________________ NRA Endowment Member Keep Your Powder Dry