Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings - The Firearms Forum

raven818 · 04-08-2012, 07:08 PM

Two men were arrested Sunday in a shooting rampage that left three people dead and terrorized Tulsa's black community, and police said one suspect may have been trying to avenge his father's shooting two years ago by a black man.

Police identified both suspects as white, while all five victims in the rampage early Friday were black.

Police and the FBI said it is too soon to say whether the attacks in Tulsa's predominantly black north side were racially motivated. Police spokesman Jason Willingham said that investigators are considering many possible motives but based on Facebook postings, revenge appeared to be a factor.

In a Thursday update on Facebook that appeared to have been written by 19-year-old Jake England, he angrily blamed his father's death on a black man and used a racial slur. He said Thursday was the second anniversary of his father's death.

"It's hard not to go off," given the anniversary and the death of his fiancDee earlier this year, the posting said.

"It's apparent from the posting on the Facebook page that he had an ax to grind, and that was possibly part of the motive," Willingham said. "If you read the Facebook post and see what he's accused of doing, you can see there's link between the two of them."

The Facebook page had been taken down by Sunday afternoon.

A family friend, Susan Sevenstar, told The Associated Press that England was "a good kid" and "a good, hard worker," who "was not in his right mind" after losing his father and the January suicide of his fiancDee, with whom he'd recently had a baby.

"If anybody is trying to say this is a racial situation, they've got things confused," said Sevenstar, who described England as Cherokee Indian."He didn't care what your color was. It wasn't a racist thing."

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I attempted to find the definition of fiancDee, since it was used twice in the article. The word doesn't exist.

hogger129 · 04-08-2012, 07:15 PM

Now why isn't this being called racism when they call both suspects white?

raven818 · 04-08-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hogger129

Now why isn't this being called racism when they call both suspects white?

Silly Goose. How can you help feed the race war mumbo-jumbo stuff, if you say one white, one American Native. It wouldn't help da cause at all.

Double Double, Toil and trouble. Cities will burn, and caldron bubble.

jack404 · 04-08-2012, 08:26 PM

gotta make whitey the evil dude , no matter what lies they gotta tell

cant have a race war with innocent folks so they gotta make all the whiteys evil

oldguy · 04-08-2012, 09:36 PM

Per the liberal press the only people who can be racist is a white person and if a Christian gun owner even more so, our public school have fed this crap into the minds of our children nearly 40 years it's all about control and turning out little socialist.

Many folks make money by pushing the race banner daily.

Snakedriver · 04-09-2012, 08:07 AM

It's almost comical how the lame-stream press makes every shooter an evil "white" guy. First it was a Hispanic fellow and now it's a Native American. I wonder if Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse ever foresaw a time when Native Americans would be referred to as "white". I'm also not so sure the Cherokee Tribe that this kid belongs to will appreciate the tag.

04-08-2012, 07:08 PM	#1
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings Two men were arrested Sunday in a shooting rampage that left three people dead and terrorized Tulsa's black community, and police said one suspect may have been trying to avenge his father's shooting two years ago by a black man. Police identified both suspects as white, while all five victims in the rampage early Friday were black. Police and the FBI said it is too soon to say whether the attacks in Tulsa's predominantly black north side were racially motivated. Police spokesman Jason Willingham said that investigators are considering many possible motives but based on Facebook postings, revenge appeared to be a factor. In a Thursday update on Facebook that appeared to have been written by 19-year-old Jake England, he angrily blamed his father's death on a black man and used a racial slur. He said Thursday was the second anniversary of his father's death. "It's hard not to go off," given the anniversary and the death of his fiancDee earlier this year, the posting said. "It's apparent from the posting on the Facebook page that he had an ax to grind, and that was possibly part of the motive," Willingham said. "If you read the Facebook post and see what he's accused of doing, you can see there's link between the two of them." The Facebook page had been taken down by Sunday afternoon. A family friend, Susan Sevenstar, told The Associated Press that England was "a good kid" and "a good, hard worker," who "was not in his right mind" after losing his father and the January suicide of his fiancDee, with whom he'd recently had a baby. "If anybody is trying to say this is a racial situation, they've got things confused," said Sevenstar, who described England as Cherokee Indian."He didn't care what your color was. It wasn't a racist thing." http://tinyurl.com/7798f48 I attempted to find the definition of fiancDee, since it was used twice in the article. The word doesn't exist. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO -->

04-08-2012, 07:15 PM	#2
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings Now why isn't this being called racism when they call both suspects white? __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 04-08-2012 at 07:17 PM..

04-08-2012, 08:26 PM	#4
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings gotta make whitey the evil dude , no matter what lies they gotta tell cant have a race war with innocent folks so they gotta make all the whiteys evil

04-08-2012, 09:36 PM	#5
oldguy Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11	Re: Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings Per the liberal press the only people who can be racist is a white person and if a Christian gun owner even more so, our public school have fed this crap into the minds of our children nearly 40 years it's all about control and turning out little socialist. Many folks make money by pushing the race banner daily. Last edited by oldguy; 04-08-2012 at 09:39 PM..

04-09-2012, 08:07 AM	#6
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: Cherokee Indian Referred To As A White Man In Tulsa Killings It's almost comical how the lame-stream press makes every shooter an evil "white" guy. First it was a Hispanic fellow and now it's a Native American. I wonder if Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse ever foresaw a time when Native Americans would be referred to as "white". I'm also not so sure the Cherokee Tribe that this kid belongs to will appreciate the tag. __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision