Some basic load questions - The Firearms Forum

rocklinskier · 12-29-2009, 08:25 AM

O.K. Just getting started. Got my gear, bought some components, and of course, I'm already stuck, not to mention $400 poorer.

So, I have a Speer manual, and a Lyman manual. Shelves are still pretty empty around here. Could not find the stuff I originally wanted to get. So if yall can help...

I have Federal LP primers, Hornady 230 GR HP/XTP (prt#45160), and bullseye powder.
I'm loading for target loads...the JHP's are only because both the places I shopped didn't have any 230 or 200 RN.
Don't have a direct app in either manual.

1) Can I use the Speer GDHP 230 data for the Hornady?

2) Does using Fed. large pistol differ (data wise) from CCI or Rem?

3) I did see HSM lead RN bullets at one of the supplies. Might buy a box of those. Is RN lead universal for load? Or do I have to find data specifically for HSM.. I have data for RN lead in both books, but it is for speer, others.

Thanks

woolleyworm · 12-29-2009, 12:37 PM

Start at the min load data, load up 5 or so for testing and work your way up in .1-.2gr increments. You'll be just fine. Do a few loads until you approach mid range. Double check your loads and do a careful inspection of the finished product. ( primers, consistent weights, seating depths, etc ) Then head to the range and test them out. Single shots for the first 2 and then check for signs of overpressure after each one. Then three for feed and cycling test. Best of Luck to Ya !

rocklinskier · 12-29-2009, 07:04 PM

THanks Woolley. Will do.

Lotsdragon · 12-29-2009, 07:07 PM

Hey Rock try the reloading pages of M D Smith you can google it and see if he has the data you need.........

neilin · 12-30-2009, 10:15 PM

2) Does using Fed. large pistol differ (data wise) from CCI or Rem?

For a partial answer to your second question, in my experience, the Federal primer always egnites with a light hammer drop or tuned pistol. Whereas, the CCI's are hard and require a hard hammer drop. The CCI's will tend to misfire (not ignite) with a light hammer drop or tuned pistol. I have never used the Rem.

steve4102 · 12-31-2009, 07:12 AM

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2) Does using Fed. large pistol differ (data wise) from CCI or Rem?

No and yes. No, you will be fine with the Feds as long as you start low and work up. And yes, if you find a good load and you switch to a different primer you should reduce your charge and work back up. Anytime you change a component you should start low and work back up. Especially if your loads are at or near max.

rocklinskier · 12-31-2009, 03:46 PM

Thanks everybody

Terry_P · 12-31-2009, 07:59 PM

Good sound advice Steve.

Sounds like 45 acp you are loading. I like Unique for low power loads and Power Pistol or Blue Dot for stouter loads.

12-29-2009, 08:25 AM	#1
rocklinskier V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 295	Some basic load questions O.K. Just getting started. Got my gear, bought some components, and of course, I'm already stuck, not to mention $400 poorer. So, I have a Speer manual, and a Lyman manual. Shelves are still pretty empty around here. Could not find the stuff I originally wanted to get. So if yall can help... I have Federal LP primers, Hornady 230 GR HP/XTP (prt#45160), and bullseye powder. I'm loading for target loads...the JHP's are only because both the places I shopped didn't have any 230 or 200 RN. Don't have a direct app in either manual. 1) Can I use the Speer GDHP 230 data for the Hornady? 2) Does using Fed. large pistol differ (data wise) from CCI or Rem? 3) I did see HSM lead RN bullets at one of the supplies. Might buy a box of those. Is RN lead universal for load? Or do I have to find data specifically for HSM.. I have data for RN lead in both books, but it is for speer, others. Thanks __________________ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free ~Ronald Reagan. -->

12-29-2009, 12:37 PM	#2
woolleyworm TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SW Fort Worth Contributor Posts: 4,883	Re: Some basic load questions Start at the min load data, load up 5 or so for testing and work your way up in .1-.2gr increments. You'll be just fine. Do a few loads until you approach mid range. Double check your loads and do a careful inspection of the finished product. ( primers, consistent weights, seating depths, etc ) Then head to the range and test them out. Single shots for the first 2 and then check for signs of overpressure after each one. Then three for feed and cycling test. Best of Luck to Ya ! __________________ . What are you gonna do, talk the alien to death? -- (on Sigourney Weaver's worry about Guns in Aliens) "Safety is something that happens between your ears, not something you hold in your hands." "I carry a small gun to compensate for my huge Blue press." .

12-29-2009, 07:04 PM	#3
rocklinskier V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 295	Re: Some basic load questions THanks Woolley. Will do. __________________ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free ~Ronald Reagan.

12-30-2009, 10:15 PM	#5
neilin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Clinton, MO Posts: 116	Re: Some basic load questions 2) Does using Fed. large pistol differ (data wise) from CCI or Rem? For a partial answer to your second question, in my experience, the Federal primer always egnites with a light hammer drop or tuned pistol. Whereas, the CCI's are hard and require a hard hammer drop. The CCI's will tend to misfire (not ignite) with a light hammer drop or tuned pistol. I have never used the Rem.

12-31-2009, 03:46 PM	#7
rocklinskier V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 295	Re: Some basic load questions Thanks everybody __________________ Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free ~Ronald Reagan.

12-29-2009, 07:07 PM	#4
Lotsdragon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Potosi, Mo Posts: 813	Re: Some basic load questions Hey Rock try the reloading pages of M D Smith you can google it and see if he has the data you need......... __________________ "First comes smiles,then lies.Last is gunfire" Roland Deschain

12-31-2009, 07:59 PM	#8
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: Some basic load questions Good sound advice Steve. Sounds like 45 acp you are loading. I like Unique for low power loads and Power Pistol or Blue Dot for stouter loads. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle Last edited by Terry_P; 12-31-2009 at 08:02 PM..