LEO's past & present question - The Firearms Forum

358 winchester · 04-01-2007, 01:52 PM

Help me understand why this is please?

It is one o'clock in the morning your an honest law abiding citizen of your state the bed room window is suddenly shattered and a black clad figure is running at you yelling something not sure what, you aren't awake yet.
How would you react?

Why don't the POLICE wear a uniform anymore?
If that took place in my home I fear more then one would be shot

Our local deputies will tell you that at my house they will not get in unless I see them in the light and in uniform.
There was a rash of older folks they where beat and robbed when they opened the door to "Knock Knock Sheriff Dept open the door"
If I don't see the car or him in uniform then it isn't coming in.
The plain clothes officer better be willing to show two forums of ID or have a uniform with them if they want to come in my house just to pee.
Am I a prick or am I being smart? I can't say but I am who I am and that is how I feel.
I sure wish that some LEO's would speak up on how they feel and why.

I have been known to pull up and ask a LEO “everything OK “ when I see one all alone this far out in the country but I just don’t get the all black head to toe outfits I see. And why are they covering their face with a mask. When I was a LEO we dressed like a cop

charagrin · 04-01-2007, 02:40 PM

I agree with you, better safe than sorry. However, if it turns out to be a cop instead of a robber, and you kill him, well...
My grandfather likes to tell a story about a friend of his with a lever action .444 magnum. This guy lived in an apartment next to some criminals. Well, one day he heres a bunch of noise coming up the apt. buildings stairs. He loads his rifle and sets himself up behind some cover. Then he heres banging on his door and someone yelling police, weve got a warrent, open up!!! The guy yells back, you want next door, there the criminals. The people yell back, open up or were coming in we've got a warrent! He yells back ,no!!!, I told you their next door. They then break down the door and come rushing in. The guy fires and blows open a officers chest, sends him back through his fellow officers and over the third story railing. Thus killing a cop over a small mistake. the guy got off because the warrent was wrong but still, he killed a cop, and forever damaged the cops family and friends.
So just be sure when you open fire...Thats all im saying.

johnston3407 · 04-01-2007, 03:41 PM

Old school! Good for you Ron. I just hope I'm that smart when I get old.

obxned · 04-01-2007, 06:54 PM

BGs posing as cops occur from time to time. If they come to my house they better do it in the daylight and bring a marked car or two. Uniforms ARE required, as are all the proper papers.

catfish83861 · 04-01-2007, 08:19 PM

Kind of goes with the post I made about ninja suited police officers doesn't it. I don't want to have to shot anyone here in the real world,well heck not any place either,but I have a problem with guys breaking down my door wearing ninja suits. Oh by the way, I am ex law enforcement. catfish

JohnK3 · 04-01-2007, 11:10 PM

Is it just me, or do all these black-suited police officers remind you of the Geheime Staatspolizei and the Schutzstaffel?

I don't think our LEOs need to dress up in ninja garb or paramilitary garb. The whole "SWAT" concept has gotten out of hand.

Light Coat · 04-01-2007, 11:21 PM

Here's the view from Fife central, Barneyville that is. If your wife didn't pass it along that I would be out to "inspect" your new bass boat and Arkansas short lure suppy; only beer will prevent my intrusion into you living room with a warrant for late night partying and grilling of any evidence shot on the way to your house. At least that's how we used to run it before I moved to the big city. They have taught the police to be belligerent donkeys in the citys and the outlying areas. Ever sense the Clintonian era police have gotten steadily worse about privacy and accuracy of enforcement. You really need to lay back a bit; allow a little extra on the speed gun, accept the steak you are offered and love your fellow man until he provokes you to beat the tar out of him.

If Mr. Swat member can't knock at the door and wake me up out of my recliner induced slumber; I hope St. Peter has a spot for him.

Pistolenschutze · 04-01-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnK3

Is it just me, or do all these black-suited police officers remind you of the Geheime Staatspolizei and the Schutzstaffel?

I don't think our LEOs need to dress up in ninja garb or paramilitary garb. The whole "SWAT" concept has gotten out of hand.

Yup, John, and if we're not careful, they'll one day be reminding us of the Sicherheitsdienst.

358 winchester · 04-02-2007, 07:28 AM

Sicherheitsdienst. Can a dumb old country boy get that in English please

Pistolenschutze · 04-02-2007, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

Sicherheitsdienst. Can a dumb old country boy get that in English please

No problem, Ron. The Sicherheitsdienst was the intelligence branch of the German SS (Schutzstaffel) and was headed by Reinhard Heydrich, and after his assassination, by Heinrich Himmler. The SD (as it was called) was mainly responsible for obtaining secret information concerning the actual and potential enemies of the Nazi leadership so that appropriate action could be taken to destroy or neutralize opposition. It was also, for example, the SD that identified and rounded up the Jews in Russia for deportation to the Nazi death camps after Hitler's invasion of Russia in 1941. At the war crimes trials in Nuremburg after the war, the SD was declared (correctly so!) a criminal organization and its members subject to prosecution.

358 winchester · 04-03-2007, 04:33 AM

but how do you say it ?

Pistolenschutze · 04-03-2007, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 358 winchester

but how do you say it ?

Hmmm, it's German (obviously!) so using English pronunciation rules doesn't work very well. Let me see if I can spell it out phonetically. In German, it is pronounced as if it were spelled in English . . .

Zisher-heights-deenst.

Note that an "S" coming at the beginning of a word in German is pronounced like the English "Z." The vowel combination "ei" is usually pronounced like the English long "i," as in the word "bite." Conversely, the vowel combination "ie" in German is usually pronounced like the English long "e," as in the word "deep." Hope this helps a little.

358 winchester · 04-03-2007, 06:18 PM

I am fromthe south

we talk different

but that is a first for me to get some one to try and say a word on line
Thanks
Ron

04-01-2007, 01:52 PM	#1
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	LEO's past & present question Help me understand why this is please? It is one o'clock in the morning your an honest law abiding citizen of your state the bed room window is suddenly shattered and a black clad figure is running at you yelling something not sure what, you aren't awake yet. How would you react? Why don't the POLICE wear a uniform anymore? If that took place in my home I fear more then one would be shot Our local deputies will tell you that at my house they will not get in unless I see them in the light and in uniform. There was a rash of older folks they where beat and robbed when they opened the door to "Knock Knock Sheriff Dept open the door" If I don't see the car or him in uniform then it isn't coming in. The plain clothes officer better be willing to show two forums of ID or have a uniform with them if they want to come in my house just to pee. Am I a prick or am I being smart? I can't say but I am who I am and that is how I feel. I sure wish that some LEO's would speak up on how they feel and why. I have been known to pull up and ask a LEO “everything OK “ when I see one all alone this far out in the country but I just don’t get the all black head to toe outfits I see. And why are they covering their face with a mask. When I was a LEO we dressed like a cop __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand? -->

04-01-2007, 02:40 PM	#2
charagrin Former Guest Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 451	Re: LEO's past & present question I agree with you, better safe than sorry. However, if it turns out to be a cop instead of a robber, and you kill him, well... My grandfather likes to tell a story about a friend of his with a lever action .444 magnum. This guy lived in an apartment next to some criminals. Well, one day he heres a bunch of noise coming up the apt. buildings stairs. He loads his rifle and sets himself up behind some cover. Then he heres banging on his door and someone yelling police, weve got a warrent, open up!!! The guy yells back, you want next door, there the criminals. The people yell back, open up or were coming in we've got a warrent! He yells back ,no!!!, I told you their next door. They then break down the door and come rushing in. The guy fires and blows open a officers chest, sends him back through his fellow officers and over the third story railing. Thus killing a cop over a small mistake. the guy got off because the warrent was wrong but still, he killed a cop, and forever damaged the cops family and friends. So just be sure when you open fire...Thats all im saying.

04-01-2007, 03:41 PM	#3
johnston3407 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Coast of Mississippi Posts: 592	Re: LEO's past & present question Old school! Good for you Ron. I just hope I'm that smart when I get old.

04-01-2007, 06:54 PM	#4
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: LEO's past & present question BGs posing as cops occur from time to time. If they come to my house they better do it in the daylight and bring a marked car or two. Uniforms ARE required, as are all the proper papers.

04-01-2007, 08:19 PM	#5
catfish83861 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Idaho Posts: 2,018	Re: LEO's past & present question Kind of goes with the post I made about ninja suited police officers doesn't it. I don't want to have to shot anyone here in the real world,well heck not any place either,but I have a problem with guys breaking down my door wearing ninja suits. Oh by the way, I am ex law enforcement. catfish

04-01-2007, 11:10 PM	#6
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Re: LEO's past & present question Is it just me, or do all these black-suited police officers remind you of the Geheime Staatspolizei and the Schutzstaffel? I don't think our LEOs need to dress up in ninja garb or paramilitary garb. The whole "SWAT" concept has gotten out of hand.

04-01-2007, 11:21 PM	#7
Light Coat V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Middle of Nowhere, KS Posts: 466	Re: LEO's past & present question Here's the view from Fife central, Barneyville that is. If your wife didn't pass it along that I would be out to "inspect" your new bass boat and Arkansas short lure suppy; only beer will prevent my intrusion into you living room with a warrant for late night partying and grilling of any evidence shot on the way to your house. At least that's how we used to run it before I moved to the big city. They have taught the police to be belligerent donkeys in the citys and the outlying areas. Ever sense the Clintonian era police have gotten steadily worse about privacy and accuracy of enforcement. You really need to lay back a bit; allow a little extra on the speed gun, accept the steak you are offered and love your fellow man until he provokes you to beat the tar out of him. If Mr. Swat member can't knock at the door and wake me up out of my recliner induced slumber; I hope St. Peter has a spot for him.

04-02-2007, 07:28 AM	#9
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: LEO's past & present question Sicherheitsdienst. Can a dumb old country boy get that in English please __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

04-03-2007, 04:33 AM	#11
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: LEO's past & present question but how do you say it ? __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?

04-03-2007, 06:18 PM	#13
358 winchester TFF Admin Staff Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pensacola Fl. area Posts: 7,335	Re: LEO's past & present question I am fromthe south we talk different but that is a first for me to get some one to try and say a word on line Thanks Ron __________________ Administrator & Owner RangeDay.com Proud, White, Heterosexual, Gun Owning, Southern American, Christian. Any question about where I stand?