Seconds - The Firearms Forum

pinecone70 · 10-27-2009, 11:19 AM

How about factory seconds? I have noticed seconds in .22LR showing up at my local gun shop, as well as .223 and some others, and I know someone who is getting Federal .303s from someone who works at Federal. Are seconds mostly blemished casings and that sort of thing??

red14 · 10-27-2009, 11:23 AM

Are those 'seconds' much cheaper??? That seems unsafe.

Lotsdragon · 10-27-2009, 11:33 AM

Doubt they are unsafe, ammo manufacturers wouldnt want the head ache of it. Prolly blems.................

red14 · 10-27-2009, 11:39 AM

""Doubt they are unsafe, ammo manufacturers wouldnt want the head ache of it. Prolly blems.................""

Like stained, or scratched? Wouldn't the performance be altered?

pinecone70 · 10-27-2009, 11:53 AM

See, that's what I'm concerned about. I wouldn't buy anything that *might* have a quality control issue that could blow up in my hands. I doubt any of the big name manufacturers would be selling their seconds if they were a liability like that. Seems to me there would be brass problems, scratches or such. The .303s are priced at less than half of what I can buy them off the shelf for at the local gun shop. I should probably find some surplus bulk priced .303 that is not labeled 'seconds', just because the others freak me out!

pinecone70 · 10-27-2009, 12:28 PM

I think next time I go to the gun shop, I'm going to discreetly open a box and check them out.

Claude Clay · 10-27-2009, 12:40 PM

seconds are generally a random check revealed out of speck brass so they pull the whole lot.
it is not fit [sorry about that, chief] for LEO sale so it is discounted.

more often than not you will shoot them by the hundreds and not have a single malfunction.

if it was a powder issue, as in outside of accepted parameters,
the lot would not leave the factory for obvious safety/legal reasons.

red14 · 10-27-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Claude Clay

seconds are generally a random check revealed out of speck brass so they pull the whole lot. it is not fit [sorry about that, chief] for LEO sale so it is discounted.

So, they might be out of specs, and not fit. Would that be a performance issue (velocity), reliability (ftf), appearance, or something else?

I saw some a gun show recently, but was afraid to buy them.

10-27-2009, 11:19 AM	#1
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Seconds How about factory seconds? I have noticed seconds in .22LR showing up at my local gun shop, as well as .223 and some others, and I know someone who is getting Federal .303s from someone who works at Federal. Are seconds mostly blemished casings and that sort of thing?? __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...." -->

10-27-2009, 11:23 AM	#2
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,914	Re: Seconds Are those 'seconds' much cheaper??? That seems unsafe. __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-27-2009, 11:33 AM	#3
Lotsdragon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Potosi, Mo Posts: 813	Re: Seconds Doubt they are unsafe, ammo manufacturers wouldnt want the head ache of it. Prolly blems................. __________________ "First comes smiles,then lies.Last is gunfire" Roland Deschain

10-27-2009, 11:39 AM	#4
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,914	Re: Seconds ""Doubt they are unsafe, ammo manufacturers wouldnt want the head ache of it. Prolly blems................."" Like stained, or scratched? Wouldn't the performance be altered? __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

10-27-2009, 11:53 AM	#5
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Seconds See, that's what I'm concerned about. I wouldn't buy anything that might have a quality control issue that could blow up in my hands. I doubt any of the big name manufacturers would be selling their seconds if they were a liability like that. Seems to me there would be brass problems, scratches or such. The .303s are priced at less than half of what I can buy them off the shelf for at the local gun shop. I should probably find some surplus bulk priced .303 that is not labeled 'seconds', just because the others freak me out! __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

10-27-2009, 12:28 PM	#6
pinecone70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Minnesota Gal! Posts: 4,730	Re: Seconds I think next time I go to the gun shop, I'm going to discreetly open a box and check them out. __________________ _____________________________________________ "Miss Scarlet, in the library...with a revolver...."

10-27-2009, 12:40 PM	#7
Claude Clay V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central CT Posts: 451	Re: Seconds seconds are generally a random check revealed out of speck brass so they pull the whole lot. it is not fit [sorry about that, chief] for LEO sale so it is discounted. more often than not you will shoot them by the hundreds and not have a single malfunction. if it was a powder issue, as in outside of accepted parameters, the lot would not leave the factory for obvious safety/legal reasons. __________________ teachers may learn you the rules; experience will teach you the exceptions. NRA Instructor Last edited by Claude Clay; 10-27-2009 at 12:45 PM..