Nobel Peace Prize

[OklahomaBrian]

What do you guys and gals think about this?

[SpazFreak1911]

well i kinda do feel like one of the reasons he is getting it was because he is the first black president but im not sure what that has to do with peace..

[dge479]

They gave it to Arafat, Carter, Gore so I think it shows how irrelevent the award has become; to nominate someone that is in office 13 days, was a Jr senator who voted present most of the time, needs a teleprompter to tell him what to say and was the comunity leader to arguably one of the most voilent cities in the nation. Yep great research

[thomas44]

The next one might as well be awarded randomly in a box of Cracker Jacks. That's about how much credibility the thing has anymore.

[Marlin]

Here is an interesting piece from today's American Vision Newsletter. Sorta confirms the interference of the Nobel folks in the internal affairs of our Great Republic. I still wish that they would mind their own business.

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Nobel's Stockholm Syndrome

Jerry Bowyer
Oct 09, 2009

It was because of a woman named Bertha Kinsky. She was a pacifist and a free-thinker (which means anti-religious). He fell in love with her, and they married, but she left him. He was wealthy, but not intellectually respected. He inherited his father's industrial business, which was, horror of horrors, an arms manufacturer. He was not a college graduate, but he learned chemistry anyway and developed dynamite, and became one of the wealthiest men in the world. He went on to write poems and anti-Christian plays, but they never respected him. She never really respected him. Alfred Nobel had money, but not status.

Then came an erroneous news report that he had died. Nobel had an experience that few ever get: he read his own obituary. It was harsh, referring to him as a merchant of death. Didn't they know what dynamite was mainly used for? Roads, bridges, tunnels. Dynamite brought people together when giant mountains of stone kept them apart. But that never was enough for the intellectuals, the journal people, Bertha's kind of people. Alfred Nobel, who had used his mind to create something of much greater value than all of the free-thinking playwrights and revolutionary poets, was unhappy. He wanted them to love him; he wanted her to love him. He wanted a glowing obituary.

His beloved Bertha, with whom he still corresponded long after their divorce, had an idea: Alfred could use his money to create a prize. People who work for peace, like Bertha's friends, would get money and acclaim for their efforts.

So he gave much of his fortune to the creation of a prize that would give money to exactly the type of people who had held him at arms length. He tried to buy their love. He tried to buy her love. He gave the authority to confer the prize to the government of Norway (which at the time was under the same crown as Sweden).

He got his glowing obituary. He didn't get the girl. The world got dynamite and was crisscrossed with train tracks and roads and bridges. Mountains became temporary impediments, rather than permanent dividers. The backs of millions of laborers were saved by this useful chemical compound. And yes, sometimes dynamite was used as a weapon.

But the prize has been used as a weapon, too. A Nobel to Carter, a Nobel to Gore, a Nobel to Obama. It appears that the parliament of Norway does not like George W. Bush very much. Carter was given a prize for negotiating a nuclear non-proliferation agreement with North Korea that was violated almost immediately. Gore's came just before his global warming hypothesis began to unravel among serious scientists and practically anyone else with a thermometer. Obama got one, well, just for being Obama. Or, more to the point, for not being Bush.

And let's not forget Arafat. Alfred Nobel tried to buy atonement from the intellectual world for the 'sin' of creating an explosive. But in 1994, in its finite wisdom, the Nobel committee bestowed his prize on the greatest recruiter of suicide bombers in history.

Mr. Bowyer is the chairman of Bowyer Media, a Pennsylvania-based radio and television production company, and a CNBC contributor.

[pinecone70]

Originally Posted by thomas44

The next one might as well be awarded randomly in a box of Cracker Jacks. That's about how much credibility the thing has anymore.

Agree.

I don't think he is a 'black president', rather more of a 'mulatto' president.

[walien]

I dunno about affirmative action, but the award does seem a tad premature.

[22WRF]

I don't think he is a 'black president', rather more of a 'mulatto' president.

That would be a "high Yellow"

[Marlin]

Here's another take on the interference in our internal affairs by the Nobel idiots. It is from the TownHall.com daily Newsletter.

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The Nobel Prize to Obama: Europe's Bid to Re-Colonize America

Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
October 10, 2009

Whether it was rewarding Jimmy Carter for criticizing the Iraq War or supporting Al Gore in his crusade against global warming, the Norwegian Parliament -- which chooses the winners of the Nobel Peace Prize -- has sought to use the award as a political tool to influence American politics. Its prestige and moral power make the prize a potent weapon with which to help steer the direction of the colossus beyond the seas that controls a quarter of the world's economy and most of its military power.

Now, the Norwegians have weighed in to support Barack Obama in his bid to reshape America so it looks more like, well, Norway -- or at least like Europe.

European socialism cannot succeed without conquering the United States. If the European Union has high taxes and the U.S. keeps its levies low, business and brains will flow to America. If the EU's labor standards require long vacations and high benefits and proscribe layoffs, and ours do not, employers will migrate across the ocean to do their business in the States.

If the Old World curbs ambition by taxation, regulation and social opprobrium, the ambitious will flock to the New World, as they have done for four hundred years.

So, Vladimir Lenin was right. Socialism cannot exist in just one country -- or one continent. It must dominate worldwide, or wealth and power will flow to those who remain committed to the free market. Europe realizes this reality, and it makes Obama's election as president of the United States all the more welcome.

The Nobel Prize is really Obama's payback for disciplining the unruly United States and taming it to be a member of the European family of nations.

Europe wants to reverse the American Revolution and re-colonize us, and it sees in Obama a kindred spirit willing to do its bidding.

Does the United States let its entrepreneurs run wild, coming up with fanciful new ideas and making billions from them? Obama will regulate and subdue business just like they do in Europe. Do U.S. businesses compete by slashing prices, aggressively pursuing markets and jockeying for market share? Obama will make them behave themselves and stay in line, just like European companies do. Do Americans work hard and push aggressively to make as much money as they can? Obama will raise taxes, emphasize community values and narcotize their ambition by offering government largesse.

And does the United States still believe in a sloppy, contrarian democracy in which ordinary people can directly affect their government, states have powers and courts can reel in executive authority? Obama will use his rubber stamp majority in Congress to pass new laws regardless of public opinion and make us obey.

In foreign policy, is the United States still willing to stand up, alone if necessary, to protect human rights in Bosnia, in Iraq and in Afghanistan? Obama will curb this unruly independence and mold it within the fabric of appeasement that has dominated Europe for the past half a century.

All this heavy lifting, this conversion of America into a European state, deserves a reward. And what is a more fitting one to give Obama than the Nobel Peace Prize? He obviously doesn't deserve the award for economics or, given his health care ideas, for medicine. But the Peace Prize expresses Europe's longing: to take back the nation its overly ambitious and uppity children founded.

© 2009 Salem Web Network

[OklahomaBrian]

+1 Marlin

[Teejay9]

This is what the Euro Elite want the U.S. to be like, an Obama-nation. He might as well be president of France or Sweden. Until Obama came, we looked like the bullies of the world, bombing and invading. Obama's someone Europe can relate to. It's like they're crossing their fingers and hoping he becomes Sarkozy and turns the US into France or Norway. TJ

[sabashimon]

Here's my contribution:

[Teejay9]

That's to shake the (invisible) little person's hand. Perhaps this is how he won it!?! TJ

[Michael G]

As I understand it, Obama made a speech stating that he hadn't at this time done enough to earn the prize, where others had worked for years to be eligible.

In fact, Obama hasn't done anything to earn it

Which brings up the question. With his EGO, why did he make the statement?
Was it to strike back for NOT getting the Olympics in Chicago?

[Bobitis]

Why didn't he decline the award if he admitted he's not worthy of it?

[PharmrJohn]

Well, I would try to play devil's advocate with this (as I do with many threads and posts), but I can't. There wasn't enough time for him to do anything of significance in order to get nominated.

However, the VOTE came later. So perhaps he has done something I do not know about (globally) that warrants the honor. But that would presume that he was nominated just to get his name in there and then see what he does.....which doesn't make much sense.

Striving for peace would get him the honor.......Anyone know how many summits he has had compared to other presidents? Has he gone above and beyond the workings of the UN? I have been curious as to the rational behind the award for since I heard about it......

[gaowlpoop]

You know, I wish I would win that thing so I could tell them I had better things to do than come to there goat ropin like:

Change the air in my truck tires
rearrange my sock drawer
watch paint dry
spray for roaches
play ball with the dog

I think you get the idea.

[Greg48]

In his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech from the White House Rose Garden on October 9, 2009, President Obama said the following:

"Let me be clear. I do not view it as recognition of my own accomplishments but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations,"

Would someone please list those accomplishments? I want to be fair and be sure that I don't miss any.

[Hardballer]

Originally Posted by dge479

They gave it to Arafat, Carter, Gore so I think it shows how irrelevant the award has become; to nominate someone that is in office 13 days, was a Jr senator who voted present most of the time, needs a teleprompter to tell him what to say and was the community leader to arguably one of the most violent cities in the nation. Yep great research

A terrorist kicked out of one country and then another, leaving death and destruction in his wake. Then all of a sudden he is a diplomat. Hmmmmm. The prize was shared with; Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin.

Idiot, The king of appeasement, left 52 American hostages rot for 444 days and one ill advised, poorly planned, miserably failed rescue attempt. The only reason the Iranians gave em back was because they knew Ronald Reagen would kick their behinds directly.

And finally the liar. He did not invent the internet and anyone who believes the global warming myth, is in for a whopper of a surprise shortly. IMHO.

Looking over the list of awardees, I find the UN listed several times and other extremely questionable awards. I too believe, this award to be meaningless and a socialist, political tool.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by Greg48

In his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech from the White House Rose Garden on October 9, 2009, President Obama said the following:

"Let me be clear. I do not view it as recognition of my own accomplishments but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations,"

"Let me be clear. I do not view it as recognition of my own accomplishments but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations,"

Would someone please list those accomplishments? I want to be fair and be sure that I don't miss any.

Well......
He's got no accomplishments to begin with, so that's right out.
Affirmation of of American leadership? What the heck does that mean?
Aspirations held by people of all nations??? WTF?

Africa and the Middle East are slave trade countries. They have no problem selling their own into lives of prostitution and niggardly duties.
They have no problem with strapping bombs on their children with no remorse.

These are aspirations the POTUS admires and supports?
And the rest of the world agrees?

And Obomba gets the Nobel Peace prize for this?
For sucking up? For ignoring the most basic human rights?
For looking the other way. For embracing his own ego. For being completely oblivious, he gets the prize?



I need to go now....

[Greg48]

In perspective: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dli8gUN72Rk

[Marlin]

Here is a good summary of the ultimate effects of the Norweigiens interference with our internal affairs from Newsmax's daily news reports.

It is significant that the original sources are the most liberal of the MSM !!!!!

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Washington Insider with Ronald Kessler

Nobel Prize for Obama Backfires

Saturday, October 10, 2009 8:55 PM

By: Ronald Kessler

If the Norwegian Nobel Committee thought it was bolstering President Barack Obama’s prestige in the world by awarding him the 2009 Peace Prize, it was wrong.

From the liberal Huffington Post and Daily Kos to the Washington Post and the Times of London, opinion makers have denounced the decision as a joke, spotlighting the fact that to date Obama has only hot air to show for his efforts at world peace.

"Rarely has an award had such an obvious political and partisan intent,” the Times of London said. “It was clearly seen by the Norwegian Nobel Committee as a way of expressing European gratitude for an end to the Bush administration. The prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronizing in its intentions, and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely begun the period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for peace.”

Mark Halperin of Time magazine wrote, “Barack Obama’s critics have long accused him of being a man of ‘just words,’ rather than concrete actions and accomplishments. The stunning decision to award him the Nobel Peace Prize for, basically, his rhetoric, will almost certainly infuriate his detractors in America more than it will delight his supporters.”

“Whatever happened to awarding for deeds actually done?” wrote Michael Russnow, who campaigned for Obama, on the Huffington Post.

The Washington Post editorialized, “It’s an odd Nobel Peace Prize that almost makes you embarrassed for the honoree. In blessing President Obama, the Nobel Committee intended to boost what it called his ‘extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.’ A more suitable time for the prize would have been after those efforts had borne some fruit.”

As suggested by the Times of London, the award to Obama was an obvious slap in the face of President Bush. “This is an award for not being George W. Bush,” Peggy Noonan writes in the Wall Street Journal. And what did Bush do to deserve the enmity of the Nobel Committee? He toppled a man who had killed 300,000 people and liberated 50 million people.

Because of Bush, Saddam’s regime no longer inflicts torture on Iraqis by having electric prods attached to their genitals or by giving them acid baths. It no longer drills holes in their ankles and skulls. It no longer leaves them naked in refrigerators for days. It no longer cuts out their tongues and cuts off their ears. Nor does it force Iraqi men to watch gang rapes of their wives and sisters.

Because of Bush, Afghan women can now attend school. They are free to go out in public without being accompanied by a man. They are allowed to hold jobs.

Moreover, because of the $15 billion Bush sent to combat AIDS, deaths in Africa are down dramatically. For that reason, despite claims that America’s moral standing in the world has eroded, Bush’s approval rating in African countries has stood at 80 percent or higher.

Those are real accomplishments worthy of a Nobel Prize. In giving the award to Obama, the Nobel Committee’s effort at burnishing the president’s image backfired by highlighting the fact that he has accomplished nothing beyond delivering oratory.

Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via
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© 2009 Newsmax

[Trouble 45-70]

It has come to the point that being awarded the Noble Peace Prize has become an insult to the intelligence of the public. Maybe not, the public elected Obama. At least the other prizes still have merit.

[Carne Frio]

I saw on another web site that BHO was nominated
for the Heisman Trophy because he watched a college
football game.

[45Auto]

Some powerful people with TV and radio shows want everyone to bash President Obama on almost every subject without end. But in the peace of my gunroom I think for myself and this is what I have been thinking:

If our President gets an international award such as the Nobel, this fact makes all of US look good. It’s a touch down. Al-Qaida, North Koreans, and our other enemies can say it was a bad call, but I want team USA to get the prize regardless of the quarterback.

MY POINT:

I know for a fact that one of the oldest propaganda attacks on the United States of America by radical Islamist groups, such as al-Qaida, is that America is a land of racists. I don't think that's true. But the careless comments about the President getting the Nobel because of his race play right into the hands of enemy propaganda. We are at war folks. Be free to speak your mind, be American, but also be vigilant of helping the enemy propaganda machine.


Best regards,
Greg