Superformance powder - The Firearms Forum

dhom · 01-23-2011, 06:56 AM

Does any one reload Hornady superformance powder in 30-06,270,or .300 win mag?

BobMcG · 01-23-2011, 09:15 AM

First off, welcome to TFF.

The Hornady Superformance Ammo line is just that, a line of loaded ammo. To my knowledge they don't reveal the powders they are using for their loads. Hornady itself doesn't sell their own line of powders nor any other's.

And to add to that: Some of the powders they're using may not even be available to the public.

JLA · 01-23-2011, 09:17 AM

The powder hornady uses in their superformance line isnt offered to the reloading public. its a proprietary blend of powders that yields a specific burn rate and pressure curve, thats why hornady can develop above average velocities with certain bullet weights.

maybe some day they will let us have it like they finally did the the FTX bullets, but dont hold your breath, right now its a huge marketing advantage for them...

steve4102 · 01-23-2011, 10:00 AM

I think he is asking about Hdgdon's new powder called "Superformance".
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...ndex.html#cont

I have read a few articles and comments on this new powder from Hodgdon, but that's about it. Haven't seen it or tried it. It's been reported by some on the web that Hornady is not happy with Hodgdon about the "Superformance" name as it is NOT what Hornady uses in their Superformance ammo, duno, only a call to Hornady could confirm or deny this one.

Anyway, here is data if you like.
http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/SuperLever.pdf

JLA · 01-23-2011, 09:11 PM

well that blows my post outta the water, nice. I want me some now!

dhom · 01-24-2011, 05:15 AM

This powder is listed in Cabela's catalog

cycloneman · 01-24-2011, 08:23 AM

Thread drift.

I have found differences between superformance ammo vs. the light mag ammo.

1. superformance ammo is not compressed in the case so it makes sense that this powder or a similar one is avaliable to the public.

2. superformance ammo is not as clean as the light mag loads were.

3. superformance gives up a bit of velocity vs the light mags.

With superformance powder avaliable now to reloaders there is no advantage Hornady has vs the home reloader. I hope hornady decides to produce the light mag ammo again. IMO the light mag ammo was better than the superformance. Especially if you were shooting rifles with long bbls.

noylj · 01-24-2011, 10:14 PM

I was thinking that LEVEREVOLUTION might be good in the .223 Rem.

dhom · 01-25-2011, 05:45 AM

I'm from the Pittsburgh area in Pa. and right now it is too cold to be out trying reloads.I was hoping somebody south was experimenting with this powder.

Voca308 · 01-25-2011, 06:18 PM

First off, I'm rally new to re-loading and have a question regarding the 30 cal reload. I have come upon a large amount of Thunderbird 2208 and was wondering if it was a good idea to use it and if so is it worth anything on the market? I know they dont make it anymore.

JLA · 01-25-2011, 09:51 PM

After digging into this a little further, I have found that Hornady, in conjuction with Hodgdon powder co, has only release 1 of the proprietary formulas that make up the superformance line (there are supposedly over 20) it is only good to use with certain bullet weights in certain cartrdges and will not provide any gain if used outside of the data assigned to it.

It really makes me wanna kick Mr Hornady in the nuts

dhom · 01-26-2011, 05:39 AM

Looks like another gimmic for higher profits. Thanks for your input.

01-23-2011, 06:56 AM	#1
dhom V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glassport,Pa Posts: 68	Superformance powder Does any one reload Hornady superformance powder in 30-06,270,or .300 win mag? -->

01-23-2011, 09:15 AM	#2
BobMcG Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Twilight Zone. Contributor Posts: 1,119	Re: Superformance powder First off, welcome to TFF. The Hornady Superformance Ammo line is just that, a line of loaded ammo. To my knowledge they don't reveal the powders they are using for their loads. Hornady itself doesn't sell their own line of powders nor any other's. And to add to that: Some of the powders they're using may not even be available to the public. Last edited by BobMcG; 01-23-2011 at 09:17 AM.. Reason: To Add

01-23-2011, 09:17 AM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,320	Re: Superformance powder The powder hornady uses in their superformance line isnt offered to the reloading public. its a proprietary blend of powders that yields a specific burn rate and pressure curve, thats why hornady can develop above average velocities with certain bullet weights. maybe some day they will let us have it like they finally did the the FTX bullets, but dont hold your breath, right now its a huge marketing advantage for them... __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-23-2011, 10:00 AM	#4
steve4102 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Contributor Posts: 2,760	Re: Superformance powder I think he is asking about Hdgdon's new powder called "Superformance". http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunit...ndex.html#cont I have read a few articles and comments on this new powder from Hodgdon, but that's about it. Haven't seen it or tried it. It's been reported by some on the web that Hornady is not happy with Hodgdon about the "Superformance" name as it is NOT what Hornady uses in their Superformance ammo, duno, only a call to Hornady could confirm or deny this one. Anyway, here is data if you like. http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/SuperLever.pdf Last edited by steve4102; 01-23-2011 at 10:03 AM..

01-23-2011, 09:11 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,320	Re: Superformance powder well that blows my post outta the water, nice. I want me some now! __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-24-2011, 05:15 AM	#6
dhom V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glassport,Pa Posts: 68	Re: Superformance powder This powder is listed in Cabela's catalog

01-24-2011, 08:23 AM	#7
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,407	Re: Superformance powder Thread drift. I have found differences between superformance ammo vs. the light mag ammo. 1. superformance ammo is not compressed in the case so it makes sense that this powder or a similar one is avaliable to the public. 2. superformance ammo is not as clean as the light mag loads were. 3. superformance gives up a bit of velocity vs the light mags. With superformance powder avaliable now to reloaders there is no advantage Hornady has vs the home reloader. I hope hornady decides to produce the light mag ammo again. IMO the light mag ammo was better than the superformance. Especially if you were shooting rifles with long bbls. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

01-24-2011, 10:14 PM	#8
noylj V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 113	Re: Superformance powder I was thinking that LEVEREVOLUTION might be good in the .223 Rem.

01-25-2011, 05:45 AM	#9
dhom V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glassport,Pa Posts: 68	Re: Superformance powder I'm from the Pittsburgh area in Pa. and right now it is too cold to be out trying reloads.I was hoping somebody south was experimenting with this powder.

01-25-2011, 06:18 PM	#10
Voca308 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2	Re: Superformance powder First off, I'm rally new to re-loading and have a question regarding the 30 cal reload. I have come upon a large amount of Thunderbird 2208 and was wondering if it was a good idea to use it and if so is it worth anything on the market? I know they dont make it anymore.

01-25-2011, 09:51 PM	#11
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,320	Re: Superformance powder After digging into this a little further, I have found that Hornady, in conjuction with Hodgdon powder co, has only release 1 of the proprietary formulas that make up the superformance line (there are supposedly over 20) it is only good to use with certain bullet weights in certain cartrdges and will not provide any gain if used outside of the data assigned to it. It really makes me wanna kick Mr Hornady in the nuts __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-26-2011, 05:39 AM	#12
dhom V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glassport,Pa Posts: 68	Re: Superformance powder Looks like another gimmic for higher profits. Thanks for your input.