new america? - The Firearms Forum

topper · 01-13-2010, 03:52 PM

Is this the new america? Permanent recession, permanent low interest rates, high and higher gasoline prices, spiraling inflation, human rights under attack, foreign products, gun rights under attack, government controls on almost everything, forced taxes, free speech under attack, and who know what else on the horizon? How did we get into such a shape? Everytime something happens in the world, America has to go 'take care of the situation' and almost monthly, it seems like, we have a new 'crisis' to deal with. It seems like most people want the government to take care of the problems and when they do, then the people complain the government is interfering in our lives and now some states are talking about secession from the union. What in blazes is going on? If all the above mentioned is the new permanent situation, we are in a world of trouble. Our young generation ain't got a chance at any permanent full-time jobs or retirements or for that matter even a decent paying job. Is minimum wage our new 'top pay limit"? Has America reached the end of it's time? What's next?

nffritos · 01-13-2010, 04:14 PM

Yes to all

cycloneman · 01-13-2010, 05:05 PM

only one thing left to do.

Mr. Nameless · 01-13-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cycloneman

only one thing left to do.

Let the South rise again?

cycloneman · 01-13-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nameless

Let the South rise again?

you right, we need a new mason dixon line.

guns4life · 01-13-2010, 05:41 PM

South Carolina has been the first once before maybe we could again

Suicide*Ride · 01-13-2010, 06:29 PM

If it is the new Amerika, I don't want no part of it!

SR

pickenup · 01-13-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by topper

we are in a world of trouble

You can say that again.

glocknut · 01-14-2010, 01:15 AM

Now that the anti christ is in office...what do you expect?

gn

carver · 01-14-2010, 01:18 AM

Hell, y'all ain't seen nothing yet!

ampaterry · 01-14-2010, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glocknut

Now that the anti christ is in office...what do you expect?

gn

I know people, gn, that truly believe this is a fact; not sarcasm or jabbing, but actually BELIEVE BO is the fulfillment of prophecy in Revelation.

I am not in that camp.
I believe he will be voted out of office, and be nothing more than a very distasteful memory in a few more years.

I truly HOPE I am right.

Terry_P · 01-14-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ampaterry

I believe he will be voted out of office, and be nothing more than a very distasteful memory in a few more years.

I truly HOPE I am right.

In 2010 we hamstring him and in 2012 boot his butt out.

topper:

Your scenerio is wrong in that we do not have spiraling inflation. Social Security and Fed Retiree raises this year based on inflation 0%. Increase in health insurance co-pay $50 a month (20%) in LTC Insurance (that was never supposed to change) $75 a month (30%). This is all thanks to Clinton who changed the CPI to more accurately reflect costs, right.

If inflation does increase then the Fed will run up interest rates. Remember 1980 when the long bond was trading at 11-13% (Jimmy Carter years)?

the morning light · 01-14-2010, 09:48 AM

The economy has been Smoke & Mirrors for decades and the chickens are coming home to roost!

JohnBrainard · 01-14-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ampaterry

I know people, gn, that truly believe this is a fact; not sarcasm or jabbing, but actually BELIEVE BO is the fulfillment of prophecy in Revelation.

I am not in that camp.
I believe he will be voted out of office, and be nothing more than a very distasteful memory in a few more years.

I truly HOPE I am right.

I'm not in that camp either and I also hope you are right!

I think "distasteful memory" is being too nice, though.

ampaterry · 01-14-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBrainard

I'm not in that camp either and I also hope you are right!

I think "distasteful memory" is being too nice, though.

I am a moderator.
If I posted what I REALLY think, I would have to delete my own post, give myself an infraction, and ask the Admin's to keep an eye on me because I was way over the line.

Trouble 45-70 · 01-15-2010, 10:04 AM

Thanks Terry, I feel the same way.

killbuck · 01-15-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Terry_P

In 2010 we hamstring him and in 2012 boot his butt out.

By 2012 it may be too late, and too hard, to undo what he will be doing in these 4 years. In 4 years you can do a lot of damage. Somehow we have to let them know to stop thier "pelosi" (that's short for bullsh**) right now.

killbuck
........
"Nothing brings out the lower traits of human nature like office seeking."
Rutherford B. Hayes

cycloneman · 01-15-2010, 10:26 AM

I can tell you guys right now. Eeryone I know is fighting to just put gas in their vehicles. All the contractors I know can't get paid. Accounts are 30 to 60 days past due. People are sitting home becuase they can't go anywhere. This is what they want well they got it.

keepitlow · 01-15-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by topper

Is this the new america? Permanent recession, permanent low interest rates, high and higher gasoline prices, spiraling inflation, human rights under attack, foreign products, gun rights under attack, government controls on almost everything, forced taxes, free speech under attack, and who know what else on the horizon? How did we get into such a shape? Everytime something happens in the world, America has to go 'take care of the situation' and almost monthly, it seems like, we have a new 'crisis' to deal with. It seems like most people want the government to take care of the problems and when they do, then the people complain the government is interfering in our lives and now some states are talking about secession from the union. What in blazes is going on? If all the above mentioned is the new permanent situation, we are in a world of trouble. Our young generation ain't got a chance at any permanent full-time jobs or retirements or for that matter even a decent paying job. Is minimum wage our new 'top pay limit"? Has America reached the end of it's time? What's next?

Well, we face much worse than that.

'Wishful Thinking' and delusions propel much of society

I heard on TV someone said; "we can look forward to a better decade to come as nothing could be as bad as the last decade."

What guarantee is there that we have seen the worst?

Things can get infinity worse than 2000 to 2009.

Here is a list of threats facing humans from SRT. One person on another forum made a joke about some of the threats. My job is not to censure this list, but I just put it out as one compilation of things one might prepare for. You decide what may apply to you.

...but bear in mind what my survival mentor says: "to prepare for the unthinkable one must first think the unthinkable."

NATURAL THREATS

Natural Disasters on and from the Earth
Short Term and Regional
-Severe Storms, Wind, Lightening
-Hurricanes, Typhoons, Cyclones, Superstorms
-Tornados
-Tsunami/Tidal Waves
-Floods
-Fires - Forest/Brush
-Landslides
-Sinkholes
-Drought (Dust Bowl)
-Earthquake
-Volcano
-Animal caused famine (ie. locusts)
-Disease, Plague, Pandemics coming from nature (ie. bird flu)

Long Term / Climate Change
-Global Warming
-Ice Caps Melting, Oceans rising
-Ozone Loss/UV Damage
-Gulf stream changes, climate shift
-Global Cooling/Ice Age
-Global Pole Shift

Natural Disasters from Beyond the Earth and not caused by man
-Asteroid or Comet Impact
-Black Holes/Worm Holes
-Solar Flares/Coronal Ejections/Gamma Burst
-Alien Invasion, non-intelligent (Andromeda Strain, virus, bacteria)
-Alien Invasion intelligent life (War of the Worlds Scenario)
-Religious End of the World (Anti-Christ, Second Coming, etc.)

MAN MADE THREATS
Man-made Accidental Disasters
-Nuclear Reactor Disaster
-Chemical Disaster
-Biological Disaster
-Fires
-Grid failures, failures in technology that bring down services
-Climate change caused by mankind
-Genetic Engineering gone wrong GMO fears
-Nanobots gone wrong the gray goo, replicants, Blob scenario
-Artificial computers smarter than man Cylons, Terminator

Wars, Acts of Terrorism (Intentional Acts)
-Nuclear weapons
-Biological Weapons (small pox, anthrax, ricin, etc.)
-Chemical Weapons (never gas, mustard gas etc.)
-Conventional explosives/weapons
-Cyber attack attack by software control
-Individual levels such as identity theft
-"Fire sale" attacks which bring down the grid
-EMP attack or anything that takes out electronic hardware, computers

Government, Economic
-Progressive Loss of Freedoms to Individuals
-Big Brother fears, NAIS for humans, implanted micro-chips
-Economic Collapse breakdowns, depression, hyper-inflation
-Social or Government Collapse/Revolution
-World socialism, World Government take over, World Dictator
-Conspiracy theories coming true
-Corporate controlled World

We got other problems right in line with peak fish and food We got peak water, peak uranium, peak crude oil and peak NG to name a few.

Have you ever thought about how much of our life is dependent on natural gas for cooking, heating and hot water?

How many of our homes are set up for efficient heating with natural methods such as wood, pellet, passive solar?

My house is not.

I never gave this subject any thought until I learned about peak natural gas. And by then it was too late.

My house is as far as it can be from the 'ideal house' that can be heated my natural methods. And to make maters worse, I live in the NE US, where it gets plenty cold.

Do you know that much of your life is dependent on natural gas outside its use as an energy source?

We will run out of natural gas, just as we deplete our crude supplies.

http://www.amazon.com/High-Noon-Natu.../dp/1931498539

Natural gas is a raw material in many of our products we depend on.

Almost all the helium we produce comes from natural gas.

Propane, synthetic fertilizers, ammonia?

They are totally dependent on natural gas.

Our population boom was fueled by synthetic fertilizers made from natural; gas. Once the gas dries up so does the fertilizer and a shortage of fertilizer equals a shortage of food.

Natural; gas is also used as an energy source to produce steel, glass, paper, clothing, brick, electricity

http://www.enotes.com/how-products-e...ia/natural-gas

http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/icm/2...3/natgasn.html

http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfa...HATITISUSEDFOR

You still have some valuable time left to prepare for what awaits you down the road.

We are in the 'Indian Summer' of a carbon based world. Don't wait until the winter sets in to start work on your preparedness efforts.

01-13-2010, 03:52 PM	#1
topper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: deep in the woods Posts: 748	new america? Is this the new america? Permanent recession, permanent low interest rates, high and higher gasoline prices, spiraling inflation, human rights under attack, foreign products, gun rights under attack, government controls on almost everything, forced taxes, free speech under attack, and who know what else on the horizon? How did we get into such a shape? Everytime something happens in the world, America has to go 'take care of the situation' and almost monthly, it seems like, we have a new 'crisis' to deal with. It seems like most people want the government to take care of the problems and when they do, then the people complain the government is interfering in our lives and now some states are talking about secession from the union. What in blazes is going on? If all the above mentioned is the new permanent situation, we are in a world of trouble. Our young generation ain't got a chance at any permanent full-time jobs or retirements or for that matter even a decent paying job. Is minimum wage our new 'top pay limit"? Has America reached the end of it's time? What's next? -->

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nffritos V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: reno Contributor Posts: 322	Re: new america? Yes to all

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Suicide*Ride Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Golden, Colorado Posts: 1,340	Re: new america? If it is the new Amerika, I don't want no part of it! SR __________________ "The price of FREEDOM can be seen here" ******(the sign outside every VA hospital)****** In an emergency, people don't rise to the occasion, but are reduced to their level of training. When something is trying to eat you, it is hard to get off a good shot! "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man." - Twain

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glocknut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: THE FORUM MASCOTT... Posts: 12,482	Re: new america? Now that the anti christ is in office...what do you expect? gn __________________ Where O where are you tonight? Why have you gone and left me alone? I searched to world over and a thought i found true love... You met another and PTThhh you were gone....

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carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,295	Re: new america? Hell, y'all ain't seen nothing yet! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

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Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: new america? Thanks Terry, I feel the same way.

01-15-2010, 10:26 AM	#18
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,407	Re: new america? I can tell you guys right now. Eeryone I know is fighting to just put gas in their vehicles. All the contractors I know can't get paid. Accounts are 30 to 60 days past due. People are sitting home becuase they can't go anywhere. This is what they want well they got it. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?