*****/***** in 2012 - The Firearms Forum

Slabsides · 09-24-2009, 06:21 PM

Who would you like to see run in 2012? I think it would be kick @55 to come up with a good pair and go ahead and start advertising with stickers, shirts, etc.

My pick: Hukabee/Nugent in 2012

Who would you like to see?

Terry_P · 09-24-2009, 07:09 PM

Rather than get specific I hope that it is a gun owner that is conservative, dynamic, that can energize conservatives and has a plan to turn around the socialist phase we are in now and keep the country safe. I think someone may emerge in 2010.

ponycar17 · 09-24-2009, 07:40 PM

Thompson/Palin... That is all...

armedandsafe · 09-24-2009, 09:14 PM

I can think of several tickets I would endorse enthusiastically. However, I want to see a ticket that can WIN. If we get too far off into the "Right Folks" we will lose because the mid-stream voters will stay home, again. This is a tough one.

Barr/Palin?

Pops

OBrien · 09-25-2009, 01:26 AM

Beck/Nugent

If things keep going the way they have been maybe Bush/Cheney pt.3

ampaterry · 09-25-2009, 02:33 AM

Rice/Keys

There are some GREAT black conservatives I would LOVE to have seen run, but I fear that BO has screwed it up for any of them to get elected in the next few races. Like it or not, the same folks that ELECTED him because of his race will, after the disenchantment has fully set in, vote AGAINST any black person for the same reason - -

ponycar17 · 09-25-2009, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBrien

If things keep going the way they have been maybe Bush/Cheney pt.3

If you listen to Obama talk, you'd swear that he's STILL trying to get Bush/Cheney OUT of office. I think Obama's got some sort of fetish with speaking about the previous administration, as well as himself of course.

45nut · 09-25-2009, 07:40 AM

Palin / Jindal or Palin / Huckabee

Maybe Huckabee / Palin

If Palin ain't on the ticket, I don't know who will get my vote.

I would really like to see Alan Keyes get farther in the election process, but Obozo has screwed him out of a legitimate chance of EVER getting very far.

Airdale · 09-25-2009, 07:57 AM

Palin and Haley Barbour either on top or bottom of the ticket (prefer Palin). Things would get done!!!

Terry_P · 09-25-2009, 08:17 AM

I have a great respect for Condoleezza Rice but I really don't think she wants the hassle of running for office. She is an intellectual and I think she considers the political muckraking undignified.

I have a Fred Thompsom 2008 T-shirt I bought before he declared his short candidacy. I think he was egged into running and then quickly changed his mind. He has a young wife and child and I think the fire isn't in the belly anymore for it.

I really like both of those candidates and the Thompsom/Rice ticket was my early choice for 2008 but neither listened to me.

As I have said in previous posts I like Sarah but she has to get the McCain breath off of her and need to counter the media assault she will have (and has had) to endure. She has the most charisma of any of the current candidates and is a conservative. Regardless of the ten people in Alaska that the media dug up as disliking her she was an overwhelming favorite up there with popularity close to 80%.

I have seen Romney close hand and he is a smart business many and I feel could implement economic reform that would benefit the country and curtail the socialist movement but he also signed the permanent assault weapons ban in Mass when he was governor so you need to know what you are getting when you vote for him.

Jindal has appeal but I know little of him as well as Pawlenty or Pence.

What we need is a good solid conservative in the Reagan mold that won't compromise his beliefs to placate the left. That will energize the base and although most americans say they are independents they are conservative on their pocketbook and that needs to be the appeal.

red14 · 09-25-2009, 08:31 AM

Mitt Romney/Thomas Sowell

carver · 09-25-2009, 08:57 AM

At this point in time, there isn't really anyone out there that I would vote for. Glen Beck maybe, but he isn't running, and if he did, he would never get elected. Huckabee might have a chance, but then again, he just another Republican. I think Palin's political career is over. Jindal isn't what he appears to be, and is in favor of cap and tax, just another wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't think Keys, Rice, Nugent, or Ron Paul has a chance. The Republican party wants a Health Care Bill as much as the Democrats, they have at least 5 bills on the hill at this time, while the Dems. only have the one. They both want the same kind of power and control over America. The Libertarian Party is looking better, and better all the time to me. I voted for Huckabee last time, and I might again, as things stand. I believe that he would be good in some areas of government, but not in others. Ron Paul, though Libertarian, ran as a Republican, that doesn't say a lot for him in my book. So, who do you vote for? I really don't know right now. I will make a choice come time to vote, and I will vote. Time will help us make a better choice.

Lori Mick · 09-25-2009, 09:03 AM

Norris/Nugent!

45nut · 09-25-2009, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carver

I think Palin's political career is over.

???? Only if she wants it to be. She's the only one that could unite the true conservatives right now. Just don't count her out yet.

Marlin · 09-25-2009, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ampaterry

Rice/Keys

There are some GREAT black conservatives I would LOVE to have seen run, but I fear that BO has screwed it up for any of them to get elected in the next few races. Like it or not, the same folks that ELECTED him because of his race will, after the disenchantment has fully set in, vote AGAINST any black person for the same reason - -

I agree with those that state a solid 2nd Amendment supporter and a true conservative, especially on National Security and in all fiscal matters.

I am afraid I couldn't support Condi Rice inasmuch as she is too middle of the road. During the second term, she showed her true colours time and time again. Fred Thompson sounds good, too, but is too much like Rice to be acceptible. We don't need ANYONE with the Eastern Establishment mentality. We have had enough of the Nelson Rockfeller, Dewey and the Cabot Lodge ilk/type. It is time for another fitting the beliefs of Ronald Reagan.

I like Keyes very much and have the greatest respect for Kenneth Blackwell. Another great subject would be Jindal. One of these somewhere on the ticket would be a big plus.

It may be too early to think specific individuals. A lot of water will go over the dam before then. I only hope and pray that it won't be too late.....

bcj1755 · 09-25-2009, 09:54 AM

Anyone but Barry, Sneaky Joe, Blinky the Zombie, Old Man Byrd, Komrade Klinton, Turbo Tax timmy, etc.

Bubblehead · 09-25-2009, 10:29 AM

I agree with Pops. We need a winning ticket and that may not include our preferred candidates.

Nugent and Palin would be too controversial and would provide a "target rich environment" for the left. As we saw in 2008, that distraction would give the lefties too much of an advantage.

Obama is the object of criticism at this time. We need to build upon that and run two solid non-controversial candidates in 2012. Think "small steps". There's a lot of people out there than don't trust us at the moment.

kingchip · 09-25-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead

I agree with Pops. We need a winning ticket and that may not include our preferred candidates.

Nugent and Palin would be too controversial and would provide a "target rich environment" for the left. As we saw in 2008, that distraction would give the lefties too much of an advantage.

Obama is the object of criticism at this time. We need to build upon that and run two solid non-controversial candidates in 2012. Think "small steps". There's a lot of people out there than don't trust us at the moment.

Get the regular guys in, and then slam them with the NUGE for GUN CZAR.

ampaterry · 09-25-2009, 05:49 PM

Points well made, Marlin -

Keyes would be FINE with me, too.

miker22 · 09-25-2009, 08:29 PM

As usual, we will probably vote "against" instead of "for".

"Lesser of 2 evils" blah, blah, blah.........

SaddleSarge · 09-25-2009, 10:15 PM

We will lose again. We have seen the enemy and WE are "dummer" than rubber dog poop from Hong Kong.

The liberals are smarter than the conservatives. Yup, I said it. For.... They run one team and get behind them while we dittle and piddle between independent, libertarian, republican, constitutional, and God only knows what other group of idiots, proclaiming from the political pulpit that they are the true party. We fall for it and split the vote into shards.

IF THE parties that believed in the constitution would join and run one conservative team, good for congress and the senate too, we'd be in. But the premadonna's won't ever do that for the good of the country. Only a non-party, conservative will. Thank goodness so many here have said only, "conservative candidates." Kudos!!

To haides with any party and let them all go to the blazes, they all stink and have caused what we now have, with our help. We're to blame for all of this, not the liberals. When will we get that through our thick, dumbama gray matter?

Run ONE conservative team, no party, and get behind them. The parties be damned or it will be the end of the constitution as we know it. My God, just look at the posts here and on various similar subjects. We can't agree on anything and continue to get our gluteous maximus's kicked.

The liberals learned this a long time ago. So why are WE so friggin' stupid?

topper · 09-26-2009, 05:26 AM

the darned media will control who is running and who gets elected....as usual. the media views are seen as 'gospel' to much of the people in america and they tend to follow the media to the end. sorta like leading sheep over the edge of a cliff.

Keep both barrels loaded!

obxned · 09-26-2009, 08:15 AM

I don't see any hope in 2012. A candidate who could fix the mess we are in would be too conservative to nominate, let alone elect. That candidate would be offering 'blood, toil, sweat, and tears' while Barry is offering unicorns, lollypops, and free money.

Further, each week bring a new revelation of corruption in the last election. This corruption is so deep and wide that I doubt that free and honest elections are still possible.

Michael G · 09-26-2009, 09:58 AM

The problem I see in voting for a republican/conservative candidate is we don't get the chance. I didn't want McCain as my choice. Far from it. I think he was a sleeper for the liberals to ensure Obama's win.
If our representatives don't vote the way we want them to vote, then we are left out of the process. Personally, I don't trust them. Top it all off with voter fraud from ACORN and it gets frustrating. At this point, I'm in favor of going to a one man, one vote, and get rid of the representatives in the voting process. Fingerprint each ballot to eliminate fraud, jail anyone who tries to usurp the process. The process we have now didn't work in the last election.
But first we need to clean house in the Congress and get these anti-conservatives out.

dbrodin · 09-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Pawlenty/Palin

Tim has backed some boneheaded things now and then, but overall has done a good job. I don't think he will ever forgive me for telling him he wasn't ready to be Governor some years ago though!

09-24-2009, 06:21 PM	#1
Slabsides Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: L.A. (Lower Alabama) Posts: 922	***/*** in 2012 Who would you like to see run in 2012? I think it would be kick @55 to come up with a good pair and go ahead and start advertising with stickers, shirts, etc. My pick: Hukabee/Nugent in 2012 Who would you like to see? __________________ /l ,[____], l---L -OlllllllO- ()_)-()_)-o-)_) -->

09-24-2009, 07:09 PM	#2
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: */* in 2012 Rather than get specific I hope that it is a gun owner that is conservative, dynamic, that can energize conservatives and has a plan to turn around the socialist phase we are in now and keep the country safe. I think someone may emerge in 2010. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

09-24-2009, 07:40 PM	#3
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09-24-2009, 09:14 PM	#4
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Re: */* in 2012 I can think of several tickets I would endorse enthusiastically. However, I want to see a ticket that can WIN. If we get too far off into the "Right Folks" we will lose because the mid-stream voters will stay home, again. This is a tough one. Barr/Palin? Pops

09-25-2009, 01:26 AM	#5
OBrien Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bangor Maine Posts: 554	Re: */* in 2012 Beck/Nugent If things keep going the way they have been maybe Bush/Cheney pt.3

09-25-2009, 02:33 AM	#6
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,277	Re: */* in 2012 Rice/Keys There are some GREAT black conservatives I would LOVE to have seen run, but I fear that BO has screwed it up for any of them to get elected in the next few races. Like it or not, the same folks that ELECTED him because of his race will, after the disenchantment has fully set in, vote AGAINST any black person for the same reason - - __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

09-25-2009, 07:40 AM	#8
45nut Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,428	Re: */* in 2012 Palin / Jindal or Palin / Huckabee Maybe Huckabee / Palin If Palin ain't on the ticket, I don't know who will get my vote. I would really like to see Alan Keyes get farther in the election process, but Obozo has screwed him out of a legitimate chance of *EVER* getting very far. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. Shane Nemo me impune lacesset We recall the case of the Shoshone war band which showed up complete with one 30-30 rifle per man the week after Pearl Harbor, and simply wanted to have the enemy pointed out to them. "We hear there's a war going on and we want to go fight it." Jeff Cooper *KCCO*

09-25-2009, 07:57 AM	#9
Airdale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: N.W. Arkansas Contributor Posts: 750	Re: */* in 2012 Palin and Haley Barbour either on top or bottom of the ticket (prefer Palin). Things would get done!!! __________________ "The Utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of the wealth] and a community of goods [central ownership of the means of production and distribution], are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown.[These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional." Samuel Adams

09-25-2009, 08:17 AM	#10
Terry_P Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NH Posts: 2,513	Re: */* in 2012 I have a great respect for Condoleezza Rice but I really don't think she wants the hassle of running for office. She is an intellectual and I think she considers the political muckraking undignified. I have a Fred Thompsom 2008 T-shirt I bought before he declared his short candidacy. I think he was egged into running and then quickly changed his mind. He has a young wife and child and I think the fire isn't in the belly anymore for it. I really like both of those candidates and the Thompsom/Rice ticket was my early choice for 2008 but neither listened to me. As I have said in previous posts I like Sarah but she has to get the McCain breath off of her and need to counter the media assault she will have (and has had) to endure. She has the most charisma of any of the current candidates and is a conservative. Regardless of the ten people in Alaska that the media dug up as disliking her she was an overwhelming favorite up there with popularity close to 80%. I have seen Romney close hand and he is a smart business many and I feel could implement economic reform that would benefit the country and curtail the socialist movement but he also signed the permanent assault weapons ban in Mass when he was governor so you need to know what you are getting when you vote for him. Jindal has appeal but I know little of him as well as Pawlenty or Pence. What we need is a good solid conservative in the Reagan mold that won't compromise his beliefs to placate the left. That will energize the base and although most americans say they are independents they are conservative on their pocketbook and that needs to be the appeal. __________________ NRA and NAHC Life "Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -Aristotle

09-25-2009, 08:31 AM	#11
red14 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N FLA Posts: 3,913	Re: */* in 2012 Mitt Romney/Thomas Sowell __________________ I never argue, I state my opinion, and support my position.

09-25-2009, 08:57 AM	#12
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,234	Re: */* in 2012 At this point in time, there isn't really anyone out there that I would vote for. Glen Beck maybe, but he isn't running, and if he did, he would never get elected. Huckabee might have a chance, but then again, he just another Republican. I think Palin's political career is over. Jindal isn't what he appears to be, and is in favor of cap and tax, just another wolf in sheep's clothing. I don't think Keys, Rice, Nugent, or Ron Paul has a chance. The Republican party wants a Health Care Bill as much as the Democrats, they have at least 5 bills on the hill at this time, while the Dems. only have the one. They both want the same kind of power and control over America. The Libertarian Party is looking better, and better all the time to me. I voted for Huckabee last time, and I might again, as things stand. I believe that he would be good in some areas of government, but not in others. Ron Paul, though Libertarian, ran as a Republican, that doesn't say a lot for him in my book. So, who do you vote for? I really don't know right now. I will make a choice come time to vote, and I will vote. Time will help us make a better choice. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 09-25-2009 at 08:59 AM..

09-25-2009, 09:03 AM	#13
Lori Mick Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stuck in Upstate NY for a while Posts: 2,374	Re: */* in 2012 Norris/Nugent! __________________ It's a Brand New Day! Make it an awesome one! "No one outside myself can rule me inwardly. Knowing this I become wholly free."

09-25-2009, 09:54 AM	#16
bcj1755 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A wretched hive of scum and villiany Posts: 4,357	Re: */* in 2012 Anyone but Barry, Sneaky Joe, Blinky the Zombie, Old Man Byrd, Komrade Klinton, Turbo Tax timmy, etc. __________________ History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace, and revolution continue on forever. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - Cicero If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams

09-25-2009, 10:29 AM	#17
Bubblehead V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pioneer, CA Posts: 480	Re: */* in 2012 I agree with Pops. We need a winning ticket and that may not include our preferred candidates. Nugent and Palin would be too controversial and would provide a "target rich environment" for the left. As we saw in 2008, that distraction would give the lefties too much of an advantage. Obama is the object of criticism at this time. We need to build upon that and run two solid non-controversial candidates in 2012. Think "small steps". There's a lot of people out there than don't trust us at the moment. __________________ There are only two types of ships: Submarines and Targets.

09-25-2009, 05:49 PM	#19
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,277	Re: */* in 2012 Points well made, Marlin - Keyes would be FINE with me, too. __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

09-25-2009, 08:29 PM	#20
miker22 Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 22	Re: */* in 2012 As usual, we will probably vote "against" instead of "for". "Lesser of 2 evils" blah, blah, blah.........

09-25-2009, 10:15 PM	#21
SaddleSarge Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,025	Re: */* in 2012 We will lose again. We have seen the enemy and WE are "dummer" than rubber dog poop from Hong Kong. The liberals are smarter than the conservatives. Yup, I said it. For.... They run one team and get behind them while we dittle and piddle between independent, libertarian, republican, constitutional, and God only knows what other group of idiots, proclaiming from the political pulpit that they are the true party. We fall for it and split the vote into shards. IF THE parties that believed in the constitution would join and run one conservative team, good for congress and the senate too, we'd be in. But the premadonna's won't ever do that for the good of the country. Only a non-party, conservative will. Thank goodness so many here have said only, "conservative candidates." Kudos!! To haides with any party and let them all go to the blazes, they all stink and have caused what we now have, with our help. We're to blame for all of this, not the liberals. When will we get that through our thick, dumbama gray matter? Run ONE conservative team, no party, and get behind them. The parties be damned or it will be the end of the constitution as we know it. My God, just look at the posts here and on various similar subjects. We can't agree on anything and continue to get our gluteous maximus's kicked. The liberals learned this a long time ago. So why are WE so friggin' stupid? Last edited by SaddleSarge; 09-25-2009 at 10:49 PM..

09-26-2009, 05:26 AM	#22
topper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: deep in the woods Posts: 748	Re: */* in 2012 the darned media will control who is running and who gets elected....as usual. the media views are seen as 'gospel' to much of the people in america and they tend to follow the media to the end. sorta like leading sheep over the edge of a cliff. Keep both barrels loaded!

09-26-2009, 08:15 AM	#23
obxned Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,342	Re: */* in 2012 I don't see any hope in 2012. A candidate who could fix the mess we are in would be too conservative to nominate, let alone elect. That candidate would be offering 'blood, toil, sweat, and tears' while Barry is offering unicorns, lollypops, and free money. Further, each week bring a new revelation of corruption in the last election. This corruption is so deep and wide that I doubt that free and honest elections are still possible. __________________ Proud member of a North Carolina Committee of Safety "If we loose Freedom here, there's no place to escape to. This is the Last Stand on Earth!" Ronald Reagan

09-26-2009, 09:58 AM	#24
Michael G V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Garland Texas Posts: 366	Re: */* in 2012 The problem I see in voting for a republican/conservative candidate is we don't get the chance. I didn't want McCain as my choice. Far from it. I think he was a sleeper for the liberals to ensure Obama's win. If our representatives don't vote the way we want them to vote, then we are left out of the process. Personally, I don't trust them. Top it all off with voter fraud from ACORN and it gets frustrating. At this point, I'm in favor of going to a one man, one vote, and get rid of the representatives in the voting process. Fingerprint each ballot to eliminate fraud, jail anyone who tries to usurp the process. The process we have now didn't work in the last election. But first we need to clean house in the Congress and get these anti-conservatives out. __________________ Kids now a days have a lot of smarts. What they lack is a bucket load of common sense.

09-26-2009, 11:50 AM	#25
dbrodin V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Duluth MN Posts: 426	Re: */* in 2012 Pawlenty/Palin Tim has backed some boneheaded things now and then, but overall has done a good job. I don't think he will ever forgive me for telling him he wasn't ready to be Governor some years ago though!