Hodgdon CFE 223 - The Firearms Forum

Rumanji · 01-17-2012, 06:10 AM

Has anyone used Hodgdon's recently offered CFE 223 powder yet? Here is a brief description on the Hodgdon website:

Introduced in January 2012, this versatile spherical rifle propellant incorporates in its formula CFE, Copper Fouling Eraser. This ingredient, originally used in military propellant, greatly deters copper fouling. It contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Being a spherical powder, metering is superbly accurate. CFE 223 yields top velocities in many cartridges such as the 204 Ruger, 223 Remington/5.56mm NATO, 22-250 Remington and the 308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO, plus many, many more. Match, Varmint and AR shooters will love this one!

I would appreciate any info from those that have tried it. Thanks!

LDBennett · 01-17-2012, 06:46 AM

I would sure want to know the method used to reduce copper fouling before jumping into this powder.

If it is abrasive that might be removing steel along with the copper.

If it is a chemical action then what chemical is used? Some chemicals, like ammonia for instances, is harmful to the barrel steel if left in contact for long periods of time (more than minutes).

I think Hodgdon owes the shooters a better description of the process than just hype. Anyone know more about this?

LDBennett

JLA · 01-17-2012, 07:36 AM

I believe its manufactured with a dry lube that coats the bore when you fire it. Its not so much a copper eliminator as it is copper prevention. and is also the reason the powder is producing top velocities. But dont hold me to that. They did a write up on it in the 2012 hodgdon reloading periodical. Its already a favorite of competition shooter Jerry Miculek.

Burn rate is about BL-C(2) which suites it to a bunch of centerfire aps, not just .223. It has the same load versatility as Varget.

Kevin Rohrer · 01-17-2012, 07:52 AM

The current edition (2012) of the Hodgdon's manual has an article on it. The manual can be bought in super markets and Barnes & Noble.

JLA · 01-17-2012, 09:56 AM

Yep. got my copy at walmart

Rumanji · 01-17-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JLA

I believe its manufactured with a dry lube that coats the bore when you fire it. Its not so much a copper eliminator as it is copper prevention. and is also the reason the powder is producing top velocities. But dont hold me to that. They did a write up on it in the 2012 hodgdon reloading periodical. Its already a favorite of competition shooter Jerry Miculek.

Burn rate is about BL-C(2) which suites it to a bunch of centerfire aps, not just .223. It has the same load versatility as Varget.

Thanks for the info. I just called a large reloading supply dealer in my area and they have no idea when hodgdon will get some to them.

JLA · 01-17-2012, 11:44 AM

same sad story here. Itll most likely hit large chains first like cabelas, and gander mtn, and such. then the smaller guys. SHould be able to get it online now tho.

Rumanji · 01-17-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLA

same sad story here. Itll most likely hit large chains first like cabelas, and gander mtn, and such. then the smaller guys. SHould be able to get it online now tho.

Midway shows it as available. I am too cheap, frugal or poor to pay a hazmat fee.

JLA · 01-17-2012, 04:31 PM

Me too. only ever paid 1 in my life and I ordered 10K primers and 8 pounds of powder to spread the cost out.

langenc · 01-19-2012, 04:42 PM

Patience, patience it will get there.

01-17-2012, 06:10 AM	#1
Rumanji Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 34	Hodgdon CFE 223 Has anyone used Hodgdon's recently offered CFE 223 powder yet? Here is a brief description on the Hodgdon website: Introduced in January 2012, this versatile spherical rifle propellant incorporates in its formula CFE, Copper Fouling Eraser. This ingredient, originally used in military propellant, greatly deters copper fouling. It contributes to longer periods of top accuracy with less barrel cleaning time. Being a spherical powder, metering is superbly accurate. CFE 223 yields top velocities in many cartridges such as the 204 Ruger, 223 Remington/5.56mm NATO, 22-250 Remington and the 308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO, plus many, many more. Match, Varmint and AR shooters will love this one! I would appreciate any info from those that have tried it. Thanks! -->

01-17-2012, 06:46 AM	#2
LDBennett Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hesperia, CA Posts: 5,712	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 I would sure want to know the method used to reduce copper fouling before jumping into this powder. If it is abrasive that might be removing steel along with the copper. If it is a chemical action then what chemical is used? Some chemicals, like ammonia for instances, is harmful to the barrel steel if left in contact for long periods of time (more than minutes). I think Hodgdon owes the shooters a better description of the process than just hype. Anyone know more about this? LDBennett

01-17-2012, 07:36 AM	#3
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 I believe its manufactured with a dry lube that coats the bore when you fire it. Its not so much a copper eliminator as it is copper prevention. and is also the reason the powder is producing top velocities. But dont hold me to that. They did a write up on it in the 2012 hodgdon reloading periodical. Its already a favorite of competition shooter Jerry Miculek. Burn rate is about BL-C(2) which suites it to a bunch of centerfire aps, not just .223. It has the same load versatility as Varget. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF! Last edited by JLA; 01-17-2012 at 07:37 AM..

01-17-2012, 07:52 AM	#4
Kevin Rohrer V.I.P. Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Medina, Ohio Posts: 278	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 The current edition (2012) of the Hodgdon's manual has an article on it. The manual can be bought in super markets and Barnes & Noble. __________________ An armed society is a polite society--Robert Heinlein via Jeff Cooper Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA--Life, Varmint Hunters Assn, American Legion, ARCTA, & South Cuyahoga Sportsmen's Assn.

01-17-2012, 09:56 AM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 Yep. got my copy at walmart __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-17-2012, 11:44 AM	#7
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 same sad story here. Itll most likely hit large chains first like cabelas, and gander mtn, and such. then the smaller guys. SHould be able to get it online now tho. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-17-2012, 04:31 PM	#9
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,315	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 Me too. only ever paid 1 in my life and I ordered 10K primers and 8 pounds of powder to spread the cost out. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

01-19-2012, 04:42 PM	#10
langenc V.I.P. Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Montmorency Co, MI Posts: 407	Re: Hodgdon CFE 223 Patience, patience it will get there.