Will they or won't they - The Firearms Forum

jim summers · 02-06-2012, 10:43 AM

How many think Israel will take some sort of action against Iran this spring. I've heard this a few times on the news,personally i think Israel will do what they have to do and the rest of the world can live with it.

gdmoody · 02-06-2012, 10:47 AM

They will do what they think they have to. I have no problems with that. What I do have a problem with is our Secretary of Defense getting on TV and making the statement that they will be doing something in the near future. With friends like that, they don't need enemies,

Zhurh · 02-06-2012, 11:36 AM

Israel in the past hasn't held back when it comes to their own demise. They also don't make threats when they go about doing anything, just do it.

What I wonder about is how everything will affect our own election this fall.

Grizz · 02-06-2012, 12:36 PM

They have a right to arm themselves just like we do.

raven818 · 02-06-2012, 03:56 PM

On Fox just a few minutes ago was a poll..50% of those asked here, have no issues at all with Israel attacking iran.

As poor as this admin is, I do not believe they would say Israel was going to attack if it was true. Feel them out, or push to get rid of nukes, maybe. But announce an attack, nah.

Obozo hitting irans central bank today will serve to hurt them a bit more.

Rocketman1 · 02-06-2012, 04:40 PM

They have the right to do whatever they need to do to protect themselves. I just hope we stay the hell out of it, unless of corse we are threatened.

American Leader · 02-06-2012, 04:52 PM

I see Israel taking control with a first strike when they feel they can't wait any longer. Remember, they have no recourse when Iran has sworn to wipe them from the face of the earth and their closest supposed ally, the USA, is being run by a muslim who has thrown the Jewish people under the bus! Remember what I always say: If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's probably a duck! Barack Hussain Obama, now who does it sound like he'll support?

raven818 · 02-06-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketman1

They have the right to do whatever they need to do to protect themselves. I just hope we stay the hell out of it, unless of corse we are threatened.

Just striking Israel, is an attack against us. Can you visualize the entire mid-east under the control of iran? That's what will occur if Israel is destroyed.

Gun Geezer · 02-06-2012, 06:18 PM

The trouble is, just on the possibility of a new mid-east conflict, the evening news broadcast has predicted the price of gasoline will begin to rise and peak over the summer at close to, if not 5 dollars/gallon. Personally, I can't see Obozo letting this happen. If gas gets even close to the 5 dollar figure, I don't see him having a chance at re-election. It might be worth it.

raven818 · 02-06-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

The trouble is, just on the possibility of a new mid-east conflict, the evening news broadcast has predicted the price of gasoline will begin to rise and peak over the summer at close to, if not 5 dollars/gallon. Personally, I can't see Obozo letting this happen. If gas gets even close to the 5 dollar figure, I don't see him having a chance at re-election. It might be worth it.

Gas prices, compared to the price we would pay if the entire mid-east decides on a jihad, wouldn't matter.

When, if, it happens, I can't grasp the idea that the price of a gallon of gas as being the deciding factor in defending Israel.

JohnHenry · 02-06-2012, 06:47 PM

I'm expecting that The Jews will defend themselves .... THe "rag heads" will fight back and "Our Leader" will declare a state of emergency, pospone the up coming election and posture himself as President ( King ) For Life.

Then it may get ugly !

millwright · 02-06-2012, 06:50 PM

Just finished reading some analyses on Israel's military capabilities. Their general concensus was it was capable of little outside of regional efforts. FWIW, I think these "analyses" are BS ! Past performance indicates the Israeli's capable of excellent subterfuge - they ran light arms/ammuniton manufacturing plants under the noses of the Brits and the UN in the Forties - and surprised the hell out of USAF analysts by adding "conformal fuel tanks" to seriously increase the range of F-15s we sold them in the 70's !

I certainly wouldn't "bet against" the Israeli's having a number of aces "up their sleeve" in any confrontation with Iran - or other hostile Arab states. A "nap of the earth" capable UAV need only fly one way to deliver its payload ! And POIs are measured in feet, not meters, these days ! >MW

jack404 · 02-06-2012, 07:02 PM

i'm watching chats of how deep the israeli bunker busters can go ,

they have been tweaking them according to janes ...

deep enough ?

probably so ..

they have a right of self defence , if they use it

meeeeeh ..

good on em

cycloneman · 02-06-2012, 07:09 PM

Somebody better do something cause

ITS FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT!!!! TO KILL THE UNBORN IN THE WOMB,

Sorry listening to Iron Madien right now.

gad1111 · 02-06-2012, 09:06 PM

Real question is will it be an open attack or an "accident" with the help of the mossad?

Greg

squaw man · 02-06-2012, 11:01 PM

It's all in "THE BOOK"! Read "THE BOOK"!

God bless the Mossad. They don't pussyfoot around.
We could take some lessons from them.

Rocketman1 · 02-06-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raven818

Just striking Israel, is an attack against us. Can you visualize the entire mid-east under the control of iran? That's what will occur if Israel is destroyed.

OK, I'm going out on a limb here, and will probably get slammed for it, but it’s just an opinion. Israel is not stopping Iran from taking over the middle east now, so why would anything be different if Israel is destroyd?

For years the US has been trying to tell other countries how to live and how they should treat their people. Why don’t we just mind our own business, and stay out of other countries affairs. If we had done that a long time ago, maybe things wouldn’t be such a mess over there. The fact that we are fighting two wars over there is a big part as to why our country is in debt. And were did it get us? Absolutely no were. Things will still be a mess, and probably worse now in Iraq then, then if we had left well enough alone.

I don't think Iran is capable of destroying Israel. I think Israel can take care of their selves without our involvement. What ever happens, we just have to make sure that it doesn’t harm the us in any way.

Zhurh · 02-07-2012, 01:08 AM

The entire basis of how our fed govt works with all the lobbyists and corruption will see to it that we will never mind our own business; and maybe we shouldn't? Can you just imagine a Muslim Caliphate say 10 more years down the road; but then The Muslims themselves probably couldn't get along with each other either in the end.

Python · 02-07-2012, 04:08 AM

Israel is God's timepiece in relation to these LAST DAYS current events we're witnessing in the Middle East. Just like Christ said, "I tell you the truth, "this generation" will surely not pass away until ALL of these things have happened". Regardless of what happens, Israel will never be destroyed, God guarantees it. 2012 is going to be a wild ride and a real eye opener for sure.

02-06-2012, 10:43 AM	#1
jim summers Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: I reside in southern Indiana, you can almost step out of my back door and be setting on Patoka Lake Posts: 1,056	Will they or won't they How many think Israel will take some sort of action against Iran this spring. I've heard this a few times on the news,personally i think Israel will do what they have to do and the rest of the world can live with it. __________________ To Whom Much Is Given, Much Is Required. -->

02-06-2012, 10:47 AM	#2
gdmoody Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeast Georgia Contributor Posts: 6,354	Re: Will they or won't they They will do what they think they have to. I have no problems with that. What I do have a problem with is our Secretary of Defense getting on TV and making the statement that they will be doing something in the near future. With friends like that, they don't need enemies, __________________ NRA Endowment Member GeorgiaCarry.Org Member Retired US Army Postal Worker Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

02-06-2012, 11:36 AM	#3
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,820	Re: Will they or won't they Israel in the past hasn't held back when it comes to their own demise. They also don't make threats when they go about doing anything, just do it. What I wonder about is how everything will affect our own election this fall.

02-06-2012, 12:36 PM	#4
Grizz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 652	Re: Will they or won't they They have a right to arm themselves just like we do.

02-06-2012, 03:56 PM	#5
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,423	Re: Will they or won't they On Fox just a few minutes ago was a poll..50% of those asked here, have no issues at all with Israel attacking iran. As poor as this admin is, I do not believe they would say Israel was going to attack if it was true. Feel them out, or push to get rid of nukes, maybe. But announce an attack, nah. Obozo hitting irans central bank today will serve to hurt them a bit more. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

02-06-2012, 04:40 PM	#6
Rocketman1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,100	Re: Will they or won't they They have the right to do whatever they need to do to protect themselves. I just hope we stay the hell out of it, unless of corse we are threatened. __________________ There is no such thing as a gun accident. Irresponsible gun owners cause so-called gun accidents.

02-06-2012, 04:52 PM	#7
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: Will they or won't they I see Israel taking control with a first strike when they feel they can't wait any longer. Remember, they have no recourse when Iran has sworn to wipe them from the face of the earth and their closest supposed ally, the USA, is being run by a muslim who has thrown the Jewish people under the bus! Remember what I always say: If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's probably a duck! Barack Hussain Obama, now who does it sound like he'll support?

02-06-2012, 06:18 PM	#9
Gun Geezer Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,710	Re: Will they or won't they The trouble is, just on the possibility of a new mid-east conflict, the evening news broadcast has predicted the price of gasoline will begin to rise and peak over the summer at close to, if not 5 dollars/gallon. Personally, I can't see Obozo letting this happen. If gas gets even close to the 5 dollar figure, I don't see him having a chance at re-election. It might be worth it.

02-06-2012, 06:47 PM	#11
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,220	Re: Will they or won't they I'm expecting that The Jews will defend themselves .... THe "rag heads" will fight back and "Our Leader" will declare a state of emergency, pospone the up coming election and posture himself as President ( King ) For Life. Then it may get ugly ! __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home .

02-06-2012, 06:50 PM	#12
millwright Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,440	Re: Will they or won't they Just finished reading some analyses on Israel's military capabilities. Their general concensus was it was capable of little outside of regional efforts. FWIW, I think these "analyses" are BS ! Past performance indicates the Israeli's capable of excellent subterfuge - they ran light arms/ammuniton manufacturing plants under the noses of the Brits and the UN in the Forties - and surprised the hell out of USAF analysts by adding "conformal fuel tanks" to seriously increase the range of F-15s we sold them in the 70's ! I certainly wouldn't "bet against" the Israeli's having a number of aces "up their sleeve" in any confrontation with Iran - or other hostile Arab states. A "nap of the earth" capable UAV need only fly one way to deliver its payload ! And POIs are measured in feet, not meters, these days ! >MW

02-06-2012, 07:02 PM	#13
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Will they or won't they i'm watching chats of how deep the israeli bunker busters can go , they have been tweaking them according to janes ... deep enough ? probably so .. they have a right of self defence , if they use it meeeeeh .. good on em

02-06-2012, 07:09 PM	#14
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,406	Re: Will they or won't they Somebody better do something cause ITS FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT!!!! TO KILL THE UNBORN IN THE WOMB, Sorry listening to Iron Madien right now. Attached Images __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

02-06-2012, 09:06 PM	#15
gad1111 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Swanton, Ohio Posts: 272	Re: Will they or won't they Real question is will it be an open attack or an "accident" with the help of the mossad? Greg

02-06-2012, 11:01 PM	#16
squaw man Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ON THE CAROLINA COAST Posts: 16	Re: Will they or won't they It's all in "THE BOOK"! Read "THE BOOK"! God bless the Mossad. They don't pussyfoot around. We could take some lessons from them. __________________ "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what to have for dinner. Liberty is a well-armed lamb." - Benjamin Franklin

02-07-2012, 01:08 AM	#18
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,820	Re: Will they or won't they The entire basis of how our fed govt works with all the lobbyists and corruption will see to it that we will never mind our own business; and maybe we shouldn't? Can you just imagine a Muslim Caliphate say 10 more years down the road; but then The Muslims themselves probably couldn't get along with each other either in the end.

02-07-2012, 04:08 AM	#19
Python Former Guest Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 677	Re: Will they or won't they Israel is God's timepiece in relation to these LAST DAYS current events we're witnessing in the Middle East. Just like Christ said, "I tell you the truth, "this generation" will surely not pass away until ALL of these things have happened". Regardless of what happens, Israel will never be destroyed, God guarantees it. 2012 is going to be a wild ride and a real eye opener for sure.