Obama and Islam - The Firearms Forum

petesusn · 02-19-2010, 10:47 AM

This is "supposedly" the video that FOX NEWS has been trying to show that is constantly blocked by the administration.
Watch this QUICKLY--I am sure it will get ZAPPED OFF the Internet soon!

I have not had the time to verify it's accuracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

JohnBrainard · 02-19-2010, 11:14 AM

I don't care for how the video was edited. Obama is cut off mid-sentence in way too many places. I'd like to know more of the context these statements are placed in. For example, when the video states that Obama even quotes from the Koran, they show him saying "The holy koran says" and then cuts him off. That happened four or five times right in a row.

There is a lot of telling stuff in the video, though. It would be nice to have references to all the source material.

Bobitis · 02-19-2010, 01:32 PM

I too question the 'ethics' behind the video.
Cut and paste is ugly in any matter.

Don't matter if it's Clinton, Bush, Obomba, or global warming.

The video is worthless without context.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care for the man.
But he gets the same rights as the rest of us. The right to not be quoted out of context. You can't just pick and choose your talking points.

Well you can....., But you lose any credibility in the process.

There has to be meat with the potatoes. Without it, you get porridge.

He's said enough 'in context' to cause the people serious concern.

This video only serves to make conservatives look like hate mongers.

I for one, wish it would go away.
It serves no good to our cause.

Trouble 45-70 · 02-20-2010, 01:23 PM

I think it is a good synopsis of who he is and some of what he has said. The funny (not ha ha) thing is that he seems to be speaking the truth about who he is in these excerpts. Kind of like when he said, 'you can tell a lot about me by who I surround my self with'.. Van Jones and others of his ilk comes to mind.

I have seen about 4 of the tapes from which the excerpts were taken and the excerpts made a fair representation of what he had to say. Given that, I tend to give credence to the content of the other excerpts. These excerpts speak for themselves and to watch the tapes from which they were taken, if all gathered in one place, would take the best part of a day.

carver · 02-20-2010, 01:27 PM

I personally can not speak as to wheather the video has been doctored or not. But I can tell that he did say "I am one". I was watching that speach on TV when he said it.

02-19-2010, 10:47 AM	#1
petesusn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Ca. Posts: 614	Obama and Islam This is "supposedly" the video that FOX NEWS has been trying to show that is constantly blocked by the administration. Watch this QUICKLY--I am sure it will get ZAPPED OFF the Internet soon! I have not had the time to verify it's accuracy. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28 __________________ Self Defense: A basic human right The 2nd Amendment, ratified in 1787, refers to the National Guard, which was created 130 years later, in 1917. A man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile...can respond with a great deal of pride and satisfaction, "I served in the U. S. Navy." John F. Kennedy VFW Life Member -->

02-19-2010, 11:14 AM	#2
JohnBrainard Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 505	Re: Obama and Islam I don't care for how the video was edited. Obama is cut off mid-sentence in way too many places. I'd like to know more of the context these statements are placed in. For example, when the video states that Obama even quotes from the Koran, they show him saying "The holy koran says" and then cuts him off. That happened four or five times right in a row. There is a lot of telling stuff in the video, though. It would be nice to have references to all the source material. __________________ BrainardPhotography.com FretboardStudio.com

02-19-2010, 01:32 PM	#3
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: Obama and Islam I too question the 'ethics' behind the video. Cut and paste is ugly in any matter. Don't matter if it's Clinton, Bush, Obomba, or global warming. The video is worthless without context. Don't get me wrong, I don't care for the man. But he gets the same rights as the rest of us. The right to not be quoted out of context. You can't just pick and choose your talking points. Well you can....., But you lose any credibility in the process. There has to be meat with the potatoes. Without it, you get porridge. He's said enough 'in context' to cause the people serious concern. This video only serves to make conservatives look like hate mongers. I for one, wish it would go away. It serves no good to our cause. __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

02-20-2010, 01:23 PM	#4
Trouble 45-70 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NE Ar. W. of Black River Contributor Posts: 2,703	Re: Obama and Islam I think it is a good synopsis of who he is and some of what he has said. The funny (not ha ha) thing is that he seems to be speaking the truth about who he is in these excerpts. Kind of like when he said, 'you can tell a lot about me by who I surround my self with'.. Van Jones and others of his ilk comes to mind. I have seen about 4 of the tapes from which the excerpts were taken and the excerpts made a fair representation of what he had to say. Given that, I tend to give credence to the content of the other excerpts. These excerpts speak for themselves and to watch the tapes from which they were taken, if all gathered in one place, would take the best part of a day. __________________ Psalm 12 verse 8: The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exalted.

02-20-2010, 01:27 PM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,221	Re: Obama and Islam I personally can not speak as to wheather the video has been doctored or not. But I can tell that he did say "I am one". I was watching that speach on TV when he said it. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.