22 cal. unknowen revolver

spatrick86 · 01-14-2012, 03:25 AM

im trying to rebuild a 7 shot 22 cal. revolver but cant find and information on it. the only markings i can find is "CHALLENGE" on the top of the barrel and "181" stamped on the lower part of the handle under the grip. iv searched every where and all i can come up with is that it looks like a hopkins and allen. its in peices and im needing parts (only a few spings i think). i will try to get a picture uploaded asap. please let me know if this revolver sounds like anything you know. thank you for your time.

RJay · 01-14-2012, 08:37 PM

This isn't going to help you much, only listing I found for the name Challenge is " a Trade name found on inexpensive revolvers from an unknown manufacturer ". Pictures might help, perhaps someone can recognise the frame.

spatrick86 · 01-14-2012, 09:11 PM

here are a few pictures, im missing a few springs and pins, but everything else is there. i hope their clear enough.

Rocketman1 · 01-14-2012, 10:52 PM

Kind of looks like a revoler made by Hopkins & Allen Firearms of Norwich, Ct. They manufactured firearms from 1868 to 1915 and were one of the largest producers of suicide specials. Revolvers manufactured under lots of names including "CHALLENGE".

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/atta...1&d=1326603076

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/atta...1&d=1326603076

spatrick86 · 01-14-2012, 10:57 PM

your right they do look alike but iv seen several revolvers that look like this one. do you know where i can find parts for the revolver? is it even worth fixing? i ask cause of the name "suicide special". thank you very much iv been searching for atleast a month.

Rocketman1 · 01-14-2012, 11:12 PM

These revolvers are not safe to shoot with modern ammo, black powder only.
It's a wall hanger.

spatrick86 · 01-14-2012, 11:33 PM

thank you

spatrick86 · 01-15-2012, 12:23 AM

also is there anyplace i can find a blueprint or something to help rebuild this revolver.. iv rebuild a h and r 32 cal. break top with no blueprint but i had all the parts

Rocketman1 · 01-15-2012, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spatrick86

also is there anyplace i can find a blueprint or something to help rebuild this revolver.. iv rebuild a h and r 32 cal. break top with no blueprint but i had all the parts

The best I can come up with is Cornell Publications. Hopefully some other knowledgeable people will post.

http://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/...p?item_id=1306

StoneChimney · 01-15-2012, 09:15 PM

It is almost certainly a Hopkins & Allen product. The springs and pins are easily made.

01-14-2012, 03:25 AM	#1
spatrick86 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	22 cal. unknowen revolver im trying to rebuild a 7 shot 22 cal. revolver but cant find and information on it. the only markings i can find is "CHALLENGE" on the top of the barrel and "181" stamped on the lower part of the handle under the grip. iv searched every where and all i can come up with is that it looks like a hopkins and allen. its in peices and im needing parts (only a few spings i think). i will try to get a picture uploaded asap. please let me know if this revolver sounds like anything you know. thank you for your time. -->

01-14-2012, 08:37 PM	#2
RJay Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,485	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver This isn't going to help you much, only listing I found for the name Challenge is " a Trade name found on inexpensive revolvers from an unknown manufacturer ". Pictures might help, perhaps someone can recognise the frame. __________________ RonJames

01-14-2012, 09:11 PM	#3
spatrick86 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver here are a few pictures, im missing a few springs and pins, but everything else is there. i hope their clear enough. Attached Images

01-14-2012, 10:52 PM	#4
Rocketman1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,097	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver Kind of looks like a revoler made by Hopkins & Allen Firearms of Norwich, Ct. They manufactured firearms from 1868 to 1915 and were one of the largest producers of suicide specials. Revolvers manufactured under lots of names including "CHALLENGE". http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/atta...1&d=1326603076 http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/atta...1&d=1326603076 Attached Images __________________ There is no such thing as a gun accident. Irresponsible gun owners cause so-called gun accidents.

01-14-2012, 10:57 PM	#5
spatrick86 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver your right they do look alike but iv seen several revolvers that look like this one. do you know where i can find parts for the revolver? is it even worth fixing? i ask cause of the name "suicide special". thank you very much iv been searching for atleast a month.

01-14-2012, 11:12 PM	#6
Rocketman1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,097	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver These revolvers are not safe to shoot with modern ammo, black powder only. It's a wall hanger. __________________ There is no such thing as a gun accident. Irresponsible gun owners cause so-called gun accidents.

01-14-2012, 11:33 PM	#7
spatrick86 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver thank you

01-15-2012, 12:23 AM	#8
spatrick86 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver also is there anyplace i can find a blueprint or something to help rebuild this revolver.. iv rebuild a h and r 32 cal. break top with no blueprint but i had all the parts

01-15-2012, 09:15 PM	#10
StoneChimney Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,087	Re: 22 cal. unknowen revolver It is almost certainly a Hopkins & Allen product. The springs and pins are easily made. __________________ Full service gunsmithing and firearm manufacturing shop. Licensed FFL 07/02 Manufacturer. Visit our website!