Glenfield ??

[wjjones]

I have an old Glenfield model 60 firing issue I can fire 2 rounds, and it will not fire the 3rd round. I clear the 3rd round, and again it will fire 2 rounds, and not fire the 3rd again. What could cause this type of problem? It has been on the rack for 15 years I finally got around to getting a new stock cleaning it, and oiling it. I used 2 drops of oil on a q-tip, and that was all. If it helps any it also will not fire that 3rd round either.

[Juker]

That's an odd one, alright, but I'm betting it needs a complete breakdown and a good cleaning. As much as we cherish these beautiful rifles, they get fouled in a hurry, and after 15 years you've undoubtedly got a lot of old gunk in there.

Don't worry about sparing the oil. After you've got 'er cleaned, wipe oil on every moving part, and everywhere metal runs against metal.

If you don't have a manual for it, here it is: http://stevespages.com/pdf/marlin_60.pdf

There are quite a few members here who own these rifles. Here's the one I've had for over 37 years.

[old semperfi]

im sorry but i will have to disagree with juker.too much oil will catch every partical of dirt and fouling,oil lightly just the moving parts at junctions where they meet another part.sorry old semperfi

[busykngt]

Please explain, "it will not fire" in more detail. Is the round loaded into the chamber & ready to be fired? Do the rounds that didn't fire show any signs of a firing pin strike on the rim of the round? While I'm not doubting your count of fire, fire, misfire - I think that's just a coincidence. What kind of ammo are you shooting? Some of the potential problem areas that come to mind are weak or worn out springs, worn firing pin, bent recoil rod. Does the bolt appear to go into full battery position? Some of these are more likely problems than others and I'd agree, start with a thorough cleaning (which you've apparently done). What do you mean, you got a new stock (again, please elaborate)?

[jack404]

i'll wager its a cleaning issue

soot builds up and hold things tight , the first two shots tighten everything up until the third is a no fire ( FTL , firing pin not striking anything is possible if full of gunk )

but yes a better explanation is really needed to figure this out , but early money from me .. cleaning ..

[Juker]

Originally Posted by old semperfi

im sorry but i will have to disagree with juker.too much oil will catch every partical of dirt and fouling,oil lightly just the moving parts at junctions where they meet another part.sorry old semperfi

Sorry, I should have clarified - wipe/rub, yes, like you're polishing your boots. I didn't mean soak the gun in oil, but 2 drops on a Q-tip as stated in the OP won't do much.

[Hawg]

You don't want to deluge it with oil but it's going to take a lot more than two drops on a q-tip.

[mr.t7024]

After the cleaning, fire the rifle,keep firing until it misfires.Now check the brass and see how well the firing pin is striking the rim. A light strike just may mean the culprit is the firing pin. It happened to me,and I just put a little more bevel on the firing pin and I solved the problem,or just order a new firing pin! Cliff

[wjjones]

Originally Posted by busykngt

Please explain, "it will not fire" in more detail. Is the round loaded into the chamber & ready to be fired? Do the rounds that didn't fire show any signs of a firing pin strike on the rim of the round? While I'm not doubting your count of fire, fire, misfire - I think that's just a coincidence. What kind of ammo are you shooting? Some of the potential problem areas that come to mind are weak or worn out springs, worn firing pin, bent recoil rod. Does the bolt appear to go into full battery position? Some of these are more likely problems than others and I'd agree, start with a thorough cleaning (which you've apparently done). What do you mean, you got a new stock (again, please elaborate)?

Yep I load it, and chamber the first round it will fire 2, and then nothing.. That 3rd round has no pin mark at all I use the remington (Golden Bullet) is what they call them. I shoot them alot in my 795, and they do great yesterday was the first time I got a chance to test fire the glenfield. I had to completely bring it back to life. The firng pin does ok for the 2 shots but its like it stops operating for the 3rd. Could it be a spring, or something that operates the firing pin, or the recoil spring,etc? I am guessing the lack of combustion from the 3rd round is causing the system to fail. I installed one of the ATI stocks on it as my brother dropped it, and broke the original stock.

http://www.milsurpstuff.com/proddetail.asp?prod=MAR3000

[wjjones]

I will as you all mentioned go back over it, and give it another good cleaning first as I may have missed something.. I will keep you updated as to what I find. I believe the long sleep on the rack is the main problem cause before the stock got broke, and we hung it up it would shoot the 19 rounds out with no problem..

[wjjones]

Originally Posted by Juker

That's an odd one, alright, but I'm betting it needs a complete breakdown and a good cleaning. As much as we cherish these beautiful rifles, they get fouled in a hurry, and after 15 years you've undoubtedly got a lot of old gunk in there.

Don't worry about sparing the oil. After you've got 'er cleaned, wipe oil on every moving part, and everywhere metal runs against metal.

If you don't have a manual for it, here it is: http://stevespages.com/pdf/marlin_60.pdf

There are quite a few members here who own these rifles. Here's the one I've had for over 37 years.

Thats a nice looking old Glenfield there Juker its identical to mine except for the tube retainer that keeps the tube in place at the end is a little different..

[Juker]

Thanks. That photo was from a thread last year when I refinished the stock. They made quite a few different models; 'course, they're shorter now, only holding 14 rounds (?). I got this one for Christmas in 1974, still a fantastic shooter.

[Albtraum]

My Model 60 had the same problem. It had no problems cycling, just wouldn't fire sometimes. After months of frustration, and cleaning it multiple times, I noticed the firing pin had a slight curve to it, and was slightly mushroomed on the back where the hammer hits it. Replaced that firing pin for $2 and it has never malfunctioned since.

[wjjones]

Thankyou Albtraum I will check that out as well..

[wjjones]

Originally Posted by wjjones

Thats a nice looking old Glenfield there Juker its identical to mine except for the tube retainer that keeps the tube in place at the end is a little different..

And Thankyou for the manual link too....

[fordtrucksforever]

By your description of its operation the third round may not be cycling the bolt far enough to cock hammer back. Will the hammer drop on the third round or just nothing? A weak or broken sear spring can do this. I would do a major cleaning including partial disassembly. Checking all parts making sure they move freely thru full movement of operation.

[Albtraum]

It could be what Fordtrucks said. When you pull the trigger when it fails to fire, does the trigger move until a "click" (the hammer hitting the pin) or does the trigger move freely and do nothing as if it is not cocked?

[wjjones]

Yes I noticed the charging lever does not want to return all the way when it chambers the next round. I can pull it back, and let go it will stop just before it closes all the way..??

[Big Shrek]

Originally Posted by wjjones

Yes I noticed the charging lever does not want to return all the way when it chambers the next round. I can pull it back, and let go it will stop just before it closes all the way..??

Stock/Action screws are too tight...read this, it oughta help
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mar...te-repair.html

Or heck...I'll just cut to the chase...
loosen both screw until...well...loose.
then tighten to finger-tight...as in, tips of fingers on handle of screwdriver instead of gripping it like a motorcycle throttle.
Test.
Now tighten in 1/4 turn increments on each screw and test...
until it starts to stick...then back off 1/4 and your rifle will be Right On the Money.

This is why I pillar-bed every rifle I own, saves having to play torque games with stock/action screws
and gives you the same consistant hold on your rifle every time...
as we all know, Consistancy is KEY to sub-MOA shooting...even with rimfires

[fuzebox40]

Originally Posted by Big Shrek

Stock/Action screws are too tight.

After much trial and error I found that was also a problem I encountered on one of mine a we bit ago.

[wjjones]

I think I found the problem I will post a picture a.s.a.p.

[Big Shrek]

Yerp, that would do it

[wjjones]

Yep the action travels alot smoother now I am going next weekend to test it out. When I had it apart everything looked ok recoil spring, firing pin, etc so maybe this cured the problem.. I removed the bolt, and recoil spring as that is where most of the crud was hiding..