Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois - Page 2

gvw3 · 02-10-2012, 07:47 PM

Let him know how you feel about this...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

rcairflr · 02-10-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

I don't live in Chicago. I live in the far North West suburbs. About 40 mi from the city. I never voted for Rahm.[B] I did vote for [/B]Obama. Never again...

Most of us here had the common sense not to vote for Obama, you obviously don't have that common sense, so all I got to say is " you liberals got exactly what you asked for in Illinois" and now you want the rest of the country to be like Illinois by helping to vote in one of your Socialist/Communist/corrupt politicians.

rcairflr · 02-10-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

Let him know how you feel about this...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

You already let him know what you think by voting for him and for us Conservatives, he doesn't care what we think.

hogger129 · 02-13-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jack404

thats it you the people are tools now , numbers , potential income pionts , but little else

look how the elite do what they want , even murder and never have anything happen to them

and now this

Obama ubruptly seals court records of Terry murder (cartels stalking agents w/ ATF walked guns) -

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/...80%99s-murder/
obama has now protected the gangs who killed ATF agents with guns supplied by the project gunwalker team

they now cannot be arrested or charged for that murder ..

but the murdered ATF agents workmates have been warned if they leak info they will be charged with treason .. and if they go after revenge they will be locked up

who is the government working for ? you or the enemy ??

To sin by silence when we should protest, makes cowards out of men...

hogger129 · 02-13-2012, 03:06 PM

As for the taking/registering peoples' guns, etc. I'm not registering a single one of mine even if the law mandates it. I would like to see them come get them and find out what happens. I won't go quietly.

Juker · 02-13-2012, 03:22 PM

I sold all my guns yesterday for $.01 to my dad in Texas, and I've got the bill of sale to prove it.

Back atcha, Rahm.

Conman · 02-13-2012, 03:35 PM

Just one more Obama TRAITOR to the American way of life and to the Constitution!!!

VOTE THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!

gvw3 · 02-13-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rcairflr

Most of us here had the common sense not to vote for Obama, you obviously don't have that common sense, so all I got to say is " you liberals got exactly what you asked for in Illinois" and now you want the rest of the country to be like Illinois by helping to vote in one of your Socialist/Communist/corrupt politicians.

This is the 1st time in my life anyone called me a liberal.

rcairflr · 02-13-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

This is the 1st time in my life anyone called me a liberal.

Let me get this straight. You are from Illinois, the state where Obama served as Senator, he was one of the most liberal Senators and gets an "F" on gun control. Yet above you state that you voted for him and yet you say you are not a liberal. Sorry, but it doesn't add up.

gvw3 · 02-13-2012, 06:21 PM

I have been a registered republican for 35 years. I voted for Obama for the health care reform he ended up screwing up anyway. If you knew anything about Chicago you would know the suburban areas are 80% republican. No one hates the Chicago democrats more then the Chicago suburbs.

jack404 · 02-13-2012, 06:47 PM

folks i think the comments are a bit tough , lots of folks voted for obozo , and most woke up,

after all , we all make mistakes , it's if we learn from them ( or survive them) that counts

gvw3 was honest enough to state he made a mistake but learned from it , ( sadly like most he realised the words that influenced him where lies, how many of us have never fallen for a lie ?? )

Never, ever, belittle anyone for being honest and for learning from mistakes , heck it's how i learn most things , i screw up and correct it ..

gvw3 · 02-13-2012, 06:59 PM

Thanks jack404. Some pretty straight talk.

jack404 · 02-13-2012, 07:17 PM

i can go back a few years when i was banned from a forum for stating obozo's record in the UN, i was told it was lies , i guess they learned eh , not everyone is politically aware , like many here that fell for the promise of "there will be no carbon tax on any government i lead" stated by julia gillard 3 days before the election

6 days later ...

carbon tax ...

gay marriage

islam and sharia acceptable options
etc etc etc

6 million aussies all asking themselves "why did i vote for that liar"

as long as next time your doing your best to fix it , there should be no grudge ( but a good ribbing is allowed if in good natured ways as heck , ya screw up thats part of the penalty in life , but i'm a aussie , whats life without ribbin someone who screws up ?? we all know it'll be our turn soon )

Juker · 02-18-2012, 07:52 AM

Hope springs eternal ... this is a GREAT piece!

Will Rahm Emanuel's Gun Plan End His Springfield Success Streak?
- David Ormsby

In Springfield Rahm was on roll.

He won approval for his school plan to extend the school day and school year. He won approval for the DREAM Act to help enable privately-funded scholarship for undocumented students. He won approval of his speed camera plan to fine speeding drivers in school zones. He won approval from the Illinois House for an ambitious gaming expansion plan that would grant a casino to Chicago. He won approval for labor changes at McCormick Place. Ditto the CME Group tax deal.

Rahm Emanuel put his formidable political persuasive powers behind doable deals. Springfield morphed from Springfiend to Springfriend for a Chicago mayor.

Until now.

Emanuel announced last week legislation that would require handgun registration, which already exists in Chicago, throughout the State of Illinois.

The thud in Cairo could be heard in Chicago.

The mayor's proposal was welcomed with this headline, "Downstate Lawmakers Outraged by Proposed Gun Registry" from the ABC affiliate WLIS-TV in Carterville.

"Why does Chicago think they're smarter than anybody else in the rest of the United States? I don't think they are," said Senator Gary Forby. "I'm sick of Chicago politicians pushing their anti-gun laws on the whole state."

"The city and the area of the country with the toughest gun laws in the country is also the highest crime rates in the country and I don't think that's a simple coincidence," said State Rep. John Bradley.

"I didn't know he was ever going to do something like this. Why is he taking issue with law-abiding citizens? You're just slapping them in the face," said State Rep. Brendon Phelps.

And those are just the Democrats.

"This is common sense gun legislation that will protect the rights of responsible gun owners while helping to keep illegal guns off the streets," said Emanuel, in defense of his plan. "56 percent of short time-to-crime guns recovered at Chicago crime scenes originate in the State of Illinois, but outside of the City of Chicago."

In attacking Emanuel's proposal, Forby helped ironically to prove Emanuel's point of an Illinois awash in guns.

"People down here I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they have 25, 50, 100 guns down here. Can you imagine $65 for every gun?" said Forby.

Emanuel's legislation would require handgun owners to contact local law enforcement if their gun is lost or stolen and require sellers to report all handgun sales and transfers.

In addition to the scorching response from Democratic lawmakers, the Chicago Tribune on the same day supplied its own scorching message when it released a poll in which it reported that Governor Pat Quinn's support in downstate Illinois is hovering near zero at 18%. In the 2010 general election Quinn won only two downstate counties. House Democrats lost five of their six seats in downstate.

Chicago-based political consultant and Huffington Post blogger Kyle Hillman says Emanuel's gun proposal could in fact help grousing Downstate Democrats.

"This helps -- absolutely helps downstate Dems. Right before a primary election they get to take on big bad Chicago and show voters they are pro-gun," said Hillman. "... [I]f I was running one of their campaigns I would be thanking Rahm for this gift."

But the GOP is likely thanking Emanuel more. They will tar downstate Democrats as the props that maintain Democratic legislative majorities and, thus, the legislative "gun-grabbing" hopes of Chicago Democrats alive.

Unfortunately, the mayor's gun proposal will mostly help poison the Democratic brand downstate and undermine Democrats' unsure hold on downstate legislative seats while simultaneously failing to advance out of either the House or Senate.

Emanuel's Springfield honeymoon of doable deals is over. He has shot himself in the foot. And the rest of his agenda may suffer as a result.

Bobitis · 02-18-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

Let him know how you feel about this...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact

It won't do one bit of good.

Shortly after Obie took office, 2 MILLION Tea Party members marched on the White House. Obie simply hopped on Marine One and left the scene. Classy eh?
That march got a day and a half of news coverage. Even Fox buckled. How many days did occupy get?

If it don't stroke his ego, it don't exist.

rimmer1 · 02-18-2012, 02:24 PM

I bet the next occupy movement gets his attention. It will not be lazy college kids and dirt balls.
It'll be Patriots, and they won't be going home until they finish what they went there to do.

gvw3 · 02-19-2012, 10:39 AM

I am going to vote everyone in office out. I don't care who they are. Get a new batch in. Without big money behind them...

raven818 · 02-19-2012, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gvw3

I am going to vote everyone in office out. I don't care who they are. Get a new batch in. Without big money behind them...

If there's no money behind them, they won't be elected. How's anybody going to know who they are? How are they going to get their message out?

I understand your reasoning, but it won't work out.

gvw3 · 02-19-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raven818

If there's no money behind them, they won't be elected. How's anybody going to know who they are? How are they going to get their message out?

I understand your reasoning, but it won't work out.

Good point. But I mean the big pack money.

02-10-2012, 07:47 PM	#26
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,236	Re: Chicago Mayor to push for state-wide handgun gegistry Let him know how you feel about this... http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

02-13-2012, 03:06 PM	#30
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: Chicago Mayor to push for state-wide handgun gegistry As for the taking/registering peoples' guns, etc. I'm not registering a single one of mine even if the law mandates it. I would like to see them come get them and find out what happens. I won't go quietly. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

02-13-2012, 03:22 PM	#31
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois I sold all my guns yesterday for $.01 to my dad in Texas, and I've got the bill of sale to prove it. Back atcha, Rahm. Attached Images __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

02-13-2012, 03:35 PM	#32
Conman V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Iowa Contributor Posts: 193	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois Just one more Obama TRAITOR to the American way of life and to the Constitution!!! VOTE THEM OUT!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ USAF 1955-1977

02-13-2012, 06:21 PM	#35
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,236	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois I have been a registered republican for 35 years. I voted for Obama for the health care reform he ended up screwing up anyway. If you knew anything about Chicago you would know the suburban areas are 80% republican. No one hates the Chicago democrats more then the Chicago suburbs. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

02-13-2012, 06:47 PM	#36
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois folks i think the comments are a bit tough , lots of folks voted for obozo , and most woke up, after all , we all make mistakes , it's if we learn from them ( or survive them) that counts gvw3 was honest enough to state he made a mistake but learned from it , ( sadly like most he realised the words that influenced him where lies, how many of us have never fallen for a lie ?? ) Never, ever, belittle anyone for being honest and for learning from mistakes , heck it's how i learn most things , i screw up and correct it .. Last edited by jack404; 02-13-2012 at 06:49 PM..

02-13-2012, 06:59 PM	#37
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,236	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois Thanks jack404. Some pretty straight talk. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

02-13-2012, 07:17 PM	#38
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois i can go back a few years when i was banned from a forum for stating obozo's record in the UN, i was told it was lies , i guess they learned eh , not everyone is politically aware , like many here that fell for the promise of "there will be no carbon tax on any government i lead" stated by julia gillard 3 days before the election 6 days later ... carbon tax ... gay marriage islam and sharia acceptable options etc etc etc 6 million aussies all asking themselves "why did i vote for that liar" as long as next time your doing your best to fix it , there should be no grudge ( but a good ribbing is allowed if in good natured ways as heck , ya screw up thats part of the penalty in life , but i'm a aussie , whats life without ribbin someone who screws up ?? we all know it'll be our turn soon )

02-18-2012, 07:52 AM	#39
Juker Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Land of Lincoln Contributor Posts: 2,872	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois Hope springs eternal ... this is a GREAT piece! Will Rahm Emanuel's Gun Plan End His Springfield Success Streak? - David Ormsby In Springfield Rahm was on roll. He won approval for his school plan to extend the school day and school year. He won approval for the DREAM Act to help enable privately-funded scholarship for undocumented students. He won approval of his speed camera plan to fine speeding drivers in school zones. He won approval from the Illinois House for an ambitious gaming expansion plan that would grant a casino to Chicago. He won approval for labor changes at McCormick Place. Ditto the CME Group tax deal. Rahm Emanuel put his formidable political persuasive powers behind doable deals. Springfield morphed from Springfiend to Springfriend for a Chicago mayor. Until now. Emanuel announced last week legislation that would require handgun registration, which already exists in Chicago, throughout the State of Illinois. The thud in Cairo could be heard in Chicago. The mayor's proposal was welcomed with this headline, "Downstate Lawmakers Outraged by Proposed Gun Registry" from the ABC affiliate WLIS-TV in Carterville. "Why does Chicago think they're smarter than anybody else in the rest of the United States? I don't think they are," said Senator Gary Forby. "I'm sick of Chicago politicians pushing their anti-gun laws on the whole state." "The city and the area of the country with the toughest gun laws in the country is also the highest crime rates in the country and I don't think that's a simple coincidence," said State Rep. John Bradley. "I didn't know he was ever going to do something like this. Why is he taking issue with law-abiding citizens? You're just slapping them in the face," said State Rep. Brendon Phelps. And those are just the Democrats. "This is common sense gun legislation that will protect the rights of responsible gun owners while helping to keep illegal guns off the streets," said Emanuel, in defense of his plan. "56 percent of short time-to-crime guns recovered at Chicago crime scenes originate in the State of Illinois, but outside of the City of Chicago." In attacking Emanuel's proposal, Forby helped ironically to prove Emanuel's point of an Illinois awash in guns. "People down here I wouldn't be a bit surprised if they have 25, 50, 100 guns down here. Can you imagine $65 for every gun?" said Forby. Emanuel's legislation would require handgun owners to contact local law enforcement if their gun is lost or stolen and require sellers to report all handgun sales and transfers. In addition to the scorching response from Democratic lawmakers, the Chicago Tribune on the same day supplied its own scorching message when it released a poll in which it reported that Governor Pat Quinn's support in downstate Illinois is hovering near zero at 18%. In the 2010 general election Quinn won only two downstate counties. House Democrats lost five of their six seats in downstate. Chicago-based political consultant and Huffington Post blogger Kyle Hillman says Emanuel's gun proposal could in fact help grousing Downstate Democrats. "This helps -- absolutely helps downstate Dems. Right before a primary election they get to take on big bad Chicago and show voters they are pro-gun," said Hillman. "... [I]f I was running one of their campaigns I would be thanking Rahm for this gift." But the GOP is likely thanking Emanuel more. They will tar downstate Democrats as the props that maintain Democratic legislative majorities and, thus, the legislative "gun-grabbing" hopes of Chicago Democrats alive. Unfortunately, the mayor's gun proposal will mostly help poison the Democratic brand downstate and undermine Democrats' unsure hold on downstate legislative seats while simultaneously failing to advance out of either the House or Senate. Emanuel's Springfield honeymoon of doable deals is over. He has shot himself in the foot. And the rest of his agenda may suffer as a result. __________________ SHOOT FIRST. SHOOT SECOND. MOST IMPORTANTLY, BE THE MAN WHO'S SHOOTING LAST.

02-18-2012, 02:24 PM	#41
rimmer1 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 151	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois I bet the next occupy movement gets his attention. It will not be lazy college kids and dirt balls. It'll be Patriots, and they won't be going home until they finish what they went there to do.

02-19-2012, 10:39 AM	#42
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,236	Re: Rahm Emanuel Pushes For Statewide Gun Registry In Illinois I am going to vote everyone in office out. I don't care who they are. Get a new batch in. Without big money behind them... __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.