200-Yard Rimfire?

[Zane71464]

Originally Posted by adamjy12345

What power scopes are you guys using to shoot that distance.

On my Ruger 77/22 LR, I have a Center Point,
3-9x32 with the mil-dot, ill. recticle. (56 dollor scope)
With the mil-dots, 300yds all day long on "pop" cans.

[Zane71464]

Originally Posted by The_Rifleman

250 Yards, 22 Rifle, Water Filled Jelly Jar

I've shot out to 300 yards, 7 foot drop at that range, groups were like 2 feet opposed to the 6 inch groups at 200. I might try it again tomorrow.

VERY NICE SHOT!

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by Zane71464

VERY NICE SHOT!

Too bad i can't do it every time... maybe I can with the scope. I got side-tracked today but maybe the day after tomorrow I'll try again.

Thanks!

[jack404]

hey what elevation are you there Rifleman ?

[BETH]

would love to try 200yrds

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by jack404

hey what elevation are you there Rifleman ?

1227 feet above sea level.

[Fromthehip]

Originally Posted by Zane71464

VERY NICE SHOT!

+1 You guys are inspiring those of us who haven't tried shooting out this far with 22LR. Very cool!

[Zane71464]

Originally Posted by Fromthehip

+1 You guys are inspiring those of us who haven't tried shooting out this far with 22LR. Very cool!

Here a year or so ago, I wasnt thinking on the lines of shooting,
or taking a .22lr that far out. But I'd saw a Thread/Post that
JLA had made and he was pushing his .22 way out there! So, I'll have to tip my hat to JLA for giveing me the thought(s).

[jack404]

Originally Posted by The_Rifleman

1227 feet above sea level.

thats makes more sense ... cheers

[76Highboy]

I have always shot for distance with my .22 rifle's and once you get used to shooting 200 yards you will begin getting comforatable with it. I was telling my brother in law that I like to shoot mt Ruger 3 screw .22 at 50, 75, and 100 yard targets off hand and he did not believe me. However when you look at the chart that Jack404 posted, a 7"-8" drop is not hard to adjust to with practice. Jack is also right about the report of the bullet hitting the target. It doesn't take long for the bullet to strike the target.

[Zane71464]

1!+

[CJ_56]

I shoot 175-200 yards pretty often. I use CCI SV ammo most of the time for that range. It's actually better to use sub-sonic ammo because you don't have the problems associated with dropping from super-sonic to sub-sonic velocity. Just like breaking the sound barrier going up you get lots of instability breaking the sound barrier going down too.

I usually shoot individual leaves laying on the ground in the fall or small rocks or anything in the 2"-3" range. Water bottles work great.

I think that chart shows the drop as being worse than I see it when I shoot. I usually hold over about 24" or so at 175 yards. Using a 3-9X40 scope I have no problem keeping the POA and the POI in the same view at max zoom.

BTW I've seen videos of a guy that shoots 400 yards and hits an 8" steel target with a .22. It's something very similar to that. I know it's long range and a small target. I could be off on the exact sizes and length. It may be farther than 400 yards. He's posted videos on Rimfire Central and The Firing Line.

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by CJ_56

It's actually better to use sub-sonic ammo because you don't have the problems associated with dropping from super-sonic to sub-sonic velocity. Just like breaking the sound barrier going up you get lots of instability breaking the sound barrier going down too.

Yep! That range of velocity is called transonic.

Wikipedia: External Ballistics; The Transonic Problem

[Zane71464]

Thanks for the link Rifleman, good reading.

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by Zane71464

Thanks for the link Rifleman, good reading.

You are welcome!

[CJ_56]

Everything in that paragraph was very useful except for the last sentence. Rimfire shooters who are looking for the best accuracy use bullets that never go super-sonic and they don't even get into the trans-sonic range. They use sub-sonic bullets for target shooting even out to long distances so they don't have that trans-sonic problem.

There are lots of uses for super-sonic .22 cartridges though. As long as your target is within their super-sonic range, usually around 100-125 yards depending on the speed of the bullet, you won't have accuracy issues and you'll have a lot more power for killing game or varmints. It's not very common to see a sub-sonic .22 bullet expand on impact no matter what kind of design is used (hollow point, soft point, whatever). But a super-sonic .22 has the power to make a HP expand as long as the target isn't too far away. That may not be so good if you're shooting a squirrel for breakfast but if you want to take down a coyote it can make a big difference.

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by CJ_56

Everything in that paragraph was very useful except for the last sentence. Rimfire shooters who are looking for the best accuracy use bullets that never go super-sonic and they don't even get into the trans-sonic range.

The page is about external ballistics in general, not just 22 ammo.

Actually, it says nothing about 22 ammo whatsoever.

[CJ_56]

I know that Rifleman but IMO it should have mentioned that some people stay under the speed of sound instead of trying to stay above it.

BTW Fromthehip, I found video of the guy I described before shooting long range with a .22. It was 500 yards instead of 400 and the target was 8.5". You can view the video here. As you can see it's possible to shoot 500 yards accurately with a .22.

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by CJ_56

I know that Rifleman but IMO it should have mentioned that some people stay under the speed of sound instead of trying to stay above it.

Because of this, marksmen normally restrict themselves to engaging targets within the supersonic range of the bullet used.

There is absolutely nothing wrong or not "useful" with that statement; especially since it was preceded with the plethora of information... one part being; "even if the bullet's flight becomes well behaved again when it enters the subsonic region."

The information is absolutely accurate... but if you feel it needs abridged; you can register yourself on that site, then edit the sentence as to meet your approval.

[The_Rifleman]

Originally Posted by The_Rifleman

Too bad i can't do it every time... maybe I can with the scope. I got side-tracked today but maybe the day after tomorrow I'll try again.

Thanks!

I got a lot better results than I thought I would. Most of the shots landed in a 8 inch area.

22 LR at 300 Yards

I held about 8 feet high, but the scope was knocked out of whack previously so...

Yes, that was my first scope and rifle. :P

I am going to see how well the 22mag does tomorrow... maybe a 22 revolver too!

[langenc]

Im going to try at 100 yards.

Id ask all 100++ yard shooters to try the USBR target at 50 yards. When you can get in the 240s, consistantly, go to 100 or 200 yards.

[BlackEagle]

Sounds like fun. I'll have to try it.

[Joe M]

I've been shooting 200+ yard .22lr for the past 3 years now and find it one of the most rewarding and fun type of rimfire shooting I do. I enjoy it so much I just ordered and received Friday my new 1/4" thick round swingers from Quality Targets. They will replace my old home made set. I will go with a bank of three gongs at 200 yards (6", 5", and 4")... I will do like I have been in the past and shoot these new round targets from the, bench and prone.

As a side note; I did order three additional gongs for a 250 yard bank that will be - 8", 7", & 6"... Just some added fun!

I should mention that I shoot a Savage MKII FVT with 20MOA EGW Base, and a 6-24x42 mil-dot Tasco Target/Varmint scope. I also use a Harris bipod, and like the cheap subsonic ammo. I mainly use the Eley Sport (1085 fps - 40gr LRN). It works for me.

Here's my old bank of 200 yard metal targets, (L - R) - 5x6", 4x5" & 3.5x3.75"

[Zane71464]

Nice shooting and I like that target set up Joe M!
Good color and goes well with the background.

[CJ_56]

The information is absolutely accurate... but if you feel it needs abridged; you can register yourself on that site, then edit the sentence as to meet your approval.

There's one on every board.

That's a nice setup Joe. I've about shot up my spinners. I have been thinking about building my own. I might go with a setup like that.