BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!!

rooter · 02-22-2012, 03:18 PM

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato

Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.

For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.

Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.

The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.

16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.

$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery.

Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.

$3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000.

So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.

REALLY?

dcriner · 02-22-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rooter

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.

Better double check that figure. Can't possibly be correct. Scratch out your name and address, and post an image of your recent bill.

jack404 · 02-22-2012, 04:32 PM

to charge in 16 Kw/h you have to add the loss of the transformer and the resistance

to convert 110 vt to 24vt you lose 22% ( actually you add another 22 % so your amps are higher )

the charge resistance will add another 35-45% depending on battery quality

so look at it that way

16 x 25% = 20

20 x 40% = 28

28 x $1:16

cheers ( sorry but battery chargers are not efficent and lose much to heat and other sources )

rooter · 02-22-2012, 07:25 PM

I was called about this posting and I pointed out the source as being a FOX person...The same person fwd'd this link.....I niether support or deny any of the figures...passing along the information and the readers and viewers can form thier own opinions..Chief

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...test-road-test

BillM · 02-22-2012, 08:22 PM

$1.16 per kwh is probably off by a factor or 10. 11.6¢ is more like it.

Highest price per kwh in the US---Hawaii. around 30¢

Highest in the lower 48----Connecticut. Just under 20¢

The_Rifleman · 02-22-2012, 09:02 PM

Think of the children!

BillM · 02-22-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Rifleman

Think of the children!

Hmmm--good idea! If we put some pedals on that sucker,
it WOULD make a good kiddie car.

02-22-2012, 03:18 PM	#1
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,266	BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!! "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." Plato Cost to operate a Chevy Volt Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph. According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery. $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile. The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more than 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country. REALLY? __________________ -->

02-22-2012, 04:32 PM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!! to charge in 16 Kw/h you have to add the loss of the transformer and the resistance to convert 110 vt to 24vt you lose 22% ( actually you add another 22 % so your amps are higher ) the charge resistance will add another 35-45% depending on battery quality so look at it that way 16 x 25% = 20 20 x 40% = 28 28 x $1:16 cheers ( sorry but battery chargers are not efficent and lose much to heat and other sources )

02-22-2012, 07:25 PM	#4
rooter VMBB Senior Chief Of Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Marty Robbins old hometown, Glendale Arizona--a suburb of Phoenix. Contributor Posts: 9,266	Re: BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!! I was called about this posting and I pointed out the source as being a FOX person...The same person fwd'd this link.....I niether support or deny any of the figures...passing along the information and the readers and viewers can form thier own opinions..Chief http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...test-road-test __________________

02-22-2012, 08:22 PM	#5
BillM V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Amity Orygun Posts: 380	Re: BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!! $1.16 per kwh is probably off by a factor or 10. 11.6¢ is more like it. Highest price per kwh in the US---Hawaii. around 30¢ Highest in the lower 48----Connecticut. Just under 20¢

02-22-2012, 09:02 PM	#6
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: BORN AT NIGHT, BUT NOT LAST NIGHT!!!!! Think of the children! __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.