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Old 02-23-2013, 06:47 PM   #1
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Default rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

one of my last sticking points on relaoding 45-70 is finding a rcbs/hornady #14 shell holder.

can't find one anywhere.

will any other work?

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Old 02-23-2013, 07:22 PM   #2
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

Hornady 14, Lyman 17, redding 18 according to a fine chart in the back of lymans 49th.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:44 PM   #3
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

i already know the equivalents.

what I wanted to know if there was another shell holder that was close enough to fit and work
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

hmm.. I see lee says a #8 will work with 416rigby or 45-70

the hornady book i looked in indicated 416 remington but not rigby.. so i overlooked it.

I MAY just have a shellholder for 416rigby. at least I know I had one on my to get list.. as I plan on loading up for 416 rigby soon as well.

hmm.. gotta go did back thru my stuff and see if I got a #8 lee
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:01 PM   #5
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

If you do not find one that will fit, PM your address to me and I will let you BORROW mine until you can find one. I think it is a Lee shell holder. I don't plan on loading any 45 /70 any time real soon.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:11 PM   #6
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

i have to go work on my farm tomorrow. wife called me and a gate went down.

once I get that squared away.. I'l look thru my shellholders and see if I got that #8 if not I'll pm ya
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:06 AM   #7
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

Here's one.

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=210|211|256
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Old 02-24-2013, 07:19 AM   #8
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I wouldn't buy a Lee shell holder. I had a set and over 50% of my brass never fit in them. Stick to quality products from Lyman, RCBS, Hornady Reding.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:12 AM   #9
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I wouldn't buy a Lee shell holder. I had a set and over 50% of my brass never fit in them. Stick to quality products from Lyman, RCBS, Hornady Reding.
i've got a mix of hornady, rcbs ( mostly ) and lee.

so far the only problem I've ever had with a shell holder was a hornady.. it would not fit my RCBS hand prime tool... BUT it did fit the shell fine. so I bought a nother brnad ( don't recall if it was lee or rcbs ).. and it fit the prime tool fine, and i stuckt he other one in the press and it fit fine.

I probably could have taken a dremel wheel or snd paper and cleaned up the piece that fits the hand primer and it would have worked.. but no need. I usually like to have 2 of each shell holder fo rthe calibers I shoot often.. so i can prime and load without swapping holders back and forth.

for stuff i only shoot a lil bit of.. 1 is fine.

ironically.. hornady is also the brass I have had the most problems with in the way of the flash hole being in the wrong place and breaking the decapping pins on my rcbs dies... a main reason i bought a lee uni decapper with a collet pin that mostly doesn't break, vs poping up...

long story short.. there simply aren't any shell holders for sale around here.. of any brand..
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:21 PM   #10
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

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Did you ever find your shell holder?
Here is one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271161126679...679%26_rdc%3D1
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:44 PM   #11
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

Ten bucks for a shell holder, they must be out of their minds.

soundguy, I'm still ready to send you mine until you can find one.
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Old 02-27-2013, 09:54 PM   #12
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

I'll agree a little steep.
Just thought I'd point out this one I found.
I have an old herters press they get a little spendy also.

update just checked catalog price 8.99 so not so bad after all.

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Old 02-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #13
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

well, I scored!

I called all around. there are about 9 shops that sell guns and supplies in a 3 city area.. 7 of them are pawn shops.. etc. the one the farthest from me at about 45m away.. I calle dthem yesterday.

thay had my #14 shell holder AND a pound of trailboss AND a box of .458 projectiles.

prices weren't bad.. in fact.. trailboss was only 19$.. the shell holder was 9$ and the projectiles for 100rnds was 24$ 9 a lil steep.. but now I got some to play with ). then the seller gave me 10% off everything.. so I saved about 6$ off them prices... so don't feel too bad about it all.
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:38 AM   #14
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I wouldn't buy a Lee shell holder. I had a set and over 50% of my brass never fit in them. Stick to quality products from Lyman, RCBS, Hornady Reding.

Strange,,, I have 2 full sets of Lee shell holders that I have used for the past 15 or so years and the only issues I have had were with a handfull of .223 and .308 brass fired from auto loaders that had heavy extracter burrs on the rims. Not the fault of the shell holders and a light touch of a file fixed the brass and were good to go even on them. In all fairness I have only loaded for maybe 2 dozen calibres and am sure many holders I havent used yet.

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:15 AM   #15
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

heck the only shellholder prob on mine wasn't even witht he shell.. it was a holde rthat didn't like my hand primer.. and wasn't a lee..
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Default Re: rcbs 14 shell holder substitute?

Never could figure why Lee felt the need to make seperate shell holders for their hand primer tool (red box) and standard ones for presses (green box) . I use an RCBS hand primer tool and either the Lee or RCBS shell holders and imagine the other hand primer tools accept standard size shell holders.
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Old 02-28-2013, 05:14 PM   #17
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i had almost went with a lee hand primer and glad I went rcbs..
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Strange,,, I have 2 full sets of Lee shell holders that I have used for the past 15 or so years and the only issues I have had were with a handfull of .223 and .308 brass fired from auto loaders that had heavy extracter burrs on the rims. Not the fault of the shell holders and a light touch of a file fixed the brass and were good to go even on them. In all fairness I have only loaded for maybe 2 dozen calibres and am sure many holders I havent used yet.

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I have to admit that I did have one problem with a Lee shell holder. When I started loading the 5.7X28, I bought a Lee #15 Shell holder and the shell would not fit into the holder no matter what I did.

It was just cut too small. I bought a RCBS and didn't have any problem with that one. I have a set of Lee shell holders and don't have a problem with any of the others.

I use the Lee hand prime tool and the #15 for that works fine.
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