Primitive Weapons - The Firearms Forum

carver · 02-28-2012, 08:44 AM

jyantkilr started a thread called "When the ammo runs out". It got me to thinking about primitive weapons. I own, and practice with a blow gun, and hunt with a sling shot. I also have a bow, but I don't practice with it any more, as I can not pull it enough to practice as needed for accurate shooting. I am thinking about going to a lighter pull on the bow. I have taken squirrels, and rabbits with the sling shot. Both it, and the blow gun are quite, and deadly on small game. Just wondering how many here use, or practice with shuch weapons as blowguns, atlatals, bolas, slings, slingshots, bow, and arrow, and other weapons in this catagory. I would like to limit the bow to something that you could make at home, and not the new technology type bows.

flintlock · 02-28-2012, 09:55 AM

Flintlocks are about as primitive as I get! A sling shot maight be a real handy tool though. I know a fellow with an atlatl, but unless a huge herd of something was going by, I doubt I could hit a lone critter. Maybe just launch one in the air and pray for a good hit! Hey, just tought of the 7 foot spontoon I have in the back of the closet! Put a cross bar on it and I'd have a boar spear!

jstgsn · 02-28-2012, 02:21 PM

We have taken squirrels with blow guns, and have trapped them with small piano wire traps etc. Also practiced regular with throwing axes and knives. As far as the home made bows, my middle son has made a few of them, I helped make two. I too had to give up the compound bow as my shoulder is whacked. Everything you need is available on line, we use 3 rivers archery for the parts. http://www.3riversarchery.com/. I'm sure there are other sites. Here are some pictures of my latest bow, it is 45#s at 28" / I picked the dark cocobolo wood and was happy the way it turned out. On the last picture you can see the frame he made. We glue the pieces togther, place it on the frame, lay the firehose over it, add innertube rubber straps and then inflate it to apply pressure. Then it's put into a kiln he built using wood and heat lamps. Trim it up and then sand, and sand, and sand, then sand, after that you sand, then put on the finish.

takes a little over a week.

carver · 02-29-2012, 07:54 AM

jstgsn, those are beautiful! Too much work for me though! The only one I have made was from a single piece of ceadar. I made my own string, and I made my own arrows, and broad heads. Killed a pig with it.

The_Rifleman · 02-29-2012, 08:30 AM

I need to make myself a longbow. Those are beautiful, Jstgsn.

I shoot a bow, and both types of sling shots. I need darts for my blowgun.

Slingshot, Elastic Slingshot

I need a bow video.

I also want to make a spear thrower thingy. I bet those work well.

I used to have a boomerang as a kid... we broke the neighbors screen door window.

carver · 02-29-2012, 08:40 AM

I've made both, the bow, and atlatal, and if I can do it, anybody can! Just punch in "How to Make (whatever) into your search engine, and get started.

Zane71464 · 02-29-2012, 09:19 AM

Good thread carver and I made my first "prototype" bow when I was 16yrs old and now wanting to make me a good one.
jstgsn, looks like you have it down! NICE.

carver · 03-01-2012, 07:59 AM

My brother, and I, were making our on slings, slingshots, bows, and arrows, spears, and such, back before we were teenagers. We hunted anything, and everything. Killed a lot of rabits with nothing more than a stick!

carver · 03-01-2012, 06:08 PM

Bump.

American Leader · 03-01-2012, 10:05 PM

Very nice jstgsn, reminds me of my first bow, bought it from Herter's when they were in business before Bass Pro, Cabela's, and Gander Mtn. were ever heard of! Very, very SWEET!

BETH · 03-01-2012, 10:09 PM

very nice how long does it take u to make one

joncutt87 · 03-02-2012, 02:18 AM

Made a bow out of a cedar tree when I was a kid, killed a squirrel with it and my grandma threw it away. She was not happy

carver · 03-02-2012, 04:59 AM

John, build you another one! Just don't tell Grandma!

jack404 · 03-02-2012, 06:56 AM

http://min.us/mbku2VQW62

EVO · 03-02-2012, 08:19 AM

I didn't know what an atlatl is...
Interesting thread!

EVO · 03-02-2012, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

http://min.us/mbku2VQW62

Great!

This book will be very useful for me, thank You Jack.

jack404 · 03-02-2012, 08:24 AM

we call em woomera here

they can quadruple your range and still be pretty accurate too

seen plenty of roo's taken with spear and woomera

take a look at the rest of the files then EVO

help yourself and if you need anything particular , let me know , i just may have it

carver · 03-02-2012, 08:28 AM

When I click on http://min.us/mbku2VQW62 the message I get is file unavailable, or does not exist!

jack404 · 03-02-2012, 08:30 AM

try this it should be first one listed

http://minus.com/u/jack404

EVO · 03-02-2012, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

take a look at the rest of the files then EVO

help yourself and if you need anything particular , let me know , i just may have it

WOW! You uploaded a full library!

Did You scan those boks by Yourself or You found on the web already in digital format?

I'm sure I'll have to spend some time on this library...

jack404 · 03-02-2012, 08:43 AM

Evo , Pm me a safe postal address and i'll send you some DVD's , theres just over 44,000 files , blueprints , how to's, machining guides , reloading guides

ever since the UN anti gun nuts took over i've been collecting as much as i can to preserve the knowledge that they dont wish us to have

simple home made guns through to home made RPG's , all for educational purposes only

EVO · 03-02-2012, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

Evo , Pm me a safe postal address and i'll send you some DVD's , theres just over 44,000 files , blueprints , how to's, machining guides , reloading guides

ever since the UN anti gun nuts took over i've been collecting as much as i can to preserve the knowledge that they dont wish us to have

simple home made guns through to home made RPG's , all for educational purposes only

This is wonderful! I sent You the PM right now; answer to me with a paypal address because I must refund You the DVD's and shipping costs!

jack404 · 03-02-2012, 09:15 AM

Evo i do not use paypal , here they dont like guns or freedom , i use Christian financing

if you can make a donation to

Canossian Daughters of Charity
Figlie della Carita Canossiane
Via della Stazione di Ottavia, 70
00135 Rome
Italy

these good people help Italian soldiers who are injured in Afghanistan

if you donate to them say $10 US this will cover the costs

Mosin_Nagant_Fan · 03-02-2012, 09:41 AM

You could be sneaky, like a ninja. My 6'3" frame has been known to move around and no one notices until I'm at the other side of a store.

carver · 03-03-2012, 07:28 AM

What is the Atlatl? http://www.worldatlatl.org/WhatisAtlatl.html

02-28-2012, 08:44 AM	#1
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Primitive Weapons jyantkilr started a thread called "When the ammo runs out". It got me to thinking about primitive weapons. I own, and practice with a blow gun, and hunt with a sling shot. I also have a bow, but I don't practice with it any more, as I can not pull it enough to practice as needed for accurate shooting. I am thinking about going to a lighter pull on the bow. I have taken squirrels, and rabbits with the sling shot. Both it, and the blow gun are quite, and deadly on small game. Just wondering how many here use, or practice with shuch weapons as blowguns, atlatals, bolas, slings, slingshots, bow, and arrow, and other weapons in this catagory. I would like to limit the bow to something that you could make at home, and not the new technology type bows. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. -->

02-28-2012, 09:55 AM	#2
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: Primitive Weapons Flintlocks are about as primitive as I get! A sling shot maight be a real handy tool though. I know a fellow with an atlatl, but unless a huge herd of something was going by, I doubt I could hit a lone critter. Maybe just launch one in the air and pray for a good hit! Hey, just tought of the 7 foot spontoon I have in the back of the closet! Put a cross bar on it and I'd have a boar spear!

02-28-2012, 02:21 PM	#3
jstgsn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Milford, Delaware Contributor Posts: 1,270	Re: Primitive Weapons We have taken squirrels with blow guns, and have trapped them with small piano wire traps etc. Also practiced regular with throwing axes and knives. As far as the home made bows, my middle son has made a few of them, I helped make two. I too had to give up the compound bow as my shoulder is whacked. Everything you need is available on line, we use 3 rivers archery for the parts. http://www.3riversarchery.com/. I'm sure there are other sites. Here are some pictures of my latest bow, it is 45#s at 28" / I picked the dark cocobolo wood and was happy the way it turned out. On the last picture you can see the frame he made. We glue the pieces togther, place it on the frame, lay the firehose over it, add innertube rubber straps and then inflate it to apply pressure. Then it's put into a kiln he built using wood and heat lamps. Trim it up and then sand, and sand, and sand, then sand, after that you sand, then put on the finish. takes a little over a week. __________________ Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he will just kill you. Last edited by jstgsn; 04-21-2013 at 06:58 PM..

02-29-2012, 07:54 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons jstgsn, those are beautiful! Too much work for me though! The only one I have made was from a single piece of ceadar. I made my own string, and I made my own arrows, and broad heads. Killed a pig with it. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

02-29-2012, 08:30 AM	#5
The_Rifleman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 872	Re: Primitive Weapons I need to make myself a longbow. Those are beautiful, Jstgsn. I shoot a bow, and both types of sling shots. I need darts for my blowgun. Slingshot, Elastic Slingshot I need a bow video. I also want to make a spear thrower thingy. I bet those work well. I used to have a boomerang as a kid... we broke the neighbors screen door window. __________________ Debate isn't "uncivil" behavior. Pointing out illogical reasoning is a legitimate counter argument. That is the problem with internet forum mods, they rarely understand what constitutes legitimate, honest and civil debate. They reward the trolls and annoy the people genuinely trying communicate. I don't really like this place anyway, have fun with your power trip. ...nuff said.

02-29-2012, 08:40 AM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons I've made both, the bow, and atlatal, and if I can do it, anybody can! Just punch in "How to Make (whatever) into your search engine, and get started. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

02-29-2012, 09:19 AM	#7
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,350	Re: Primitive Weapons Good thread carver and I made my first "prototype" bow when I was 16yrs old and now wanting to make me a good one. jstgsn, looks like you have it down! NICE. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

03-01-2012, 07:59 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons My brother, and I, were making our on slings, slingshots, bows, and arrows, spears, and such, back before we were teenagers. We hunted anything, and everything. Killed a lot of rabits with nothing more than a stick! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-01-2012, 06:08 PM	#9
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons Bump. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-01-2012, 10:05 PM	#10
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: Primitive Weapons Very nice jstgsn, reminds me of my first bow, bought it from Herter's when they were in business before Bass Pro, Cabela's, and Gander Mtn. were ever heard of! Very, very SWEET!

03-01-2012, 10:09 PM	#11
BETH Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: naugatuck,Ct. Contributor Posts: 6,668	Re: Primitive Weapons very nice how long does it take u to make one

03-02-2012, 02:18 AM	#12
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: Primitive Weapons Made a bow out of a cedar tree when I was a kid, killed a squirrel with it and my grandma threw it away. She was not happy __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

03-02-2012, 04:59 AM	#13
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons John, build you another one! Just don't tell Grandma! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-02-2012, 06:56 AM	#14
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Primitive Weapons http://min.us/mbku2VQW62

03-02-2012, 08:19 AM	#15
EVO Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Italy Posts: 36	Re: Primitive Weapons I didn't know what an atlatl is... Interesting thread! __________________ Benelli M3 Super 90 Tactical - Glock 17 3rd gen.

03-02-2012, 08:24 AM	#17
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Primitive Weapons we call em woomera here they can quadruple your range and still be pretty accurate too seen plenty of roo's taken with spear and woomera take a look at the rest of the files then EVO help yourself and if you need anything particular , let me know , i just may have it Last edited by jack404; 03-02-2012 at 08:25 AM..

03-02-2012, 08:28 AM	#18
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons When I click on http://min.us/mbku2VQW62 the message I get is file unavailable, or does not exist! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-02-2012, 08:30 AM	#19
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Primitive Weapons try this it should be first one listed http://minus.com/u/jack404

03-02-2012, 08:43 AM	#21
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Primitive Weapons Evo , Pm me a safe postal address and i'll send you some DVD's , theres just over 44,000 files , blueprints , how to's, machining guides , reloading guides ever since the UN anti gun nuts took over i've been collecting as much as i can to preserve the knowledge that they dont wish us to have simple home made guns through to home made RPG's , all for educational purposes only

03-02-2012, 09:15 AM	#23
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Primitive Weapons Evo i do not use paypal , here they dont like guns or freedom , i use Christian financing if you can make a donation to Canossian Daughters of Charity Figlie della Carita Canossiane Via della Stazione di Ottavia, 70 00135 Rome Italy these good people help Italian soldiers who are injured in Afghanistan if you donate to them say $10 US this will cover the costs

03-02-2012, 09:41 AM	#24
Mosin_Nagant_Fan Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montgomery, AL Posts: 1,832	Re: Primitive Weapons You could be sneaky, like a ninja. My 6'3" frame has been known to move around and no one notices until I'm at the other side of a store. __________________ Long Gun Collection: M38 Mosin-Nagant Carbine Russian 1950 SKS Winchester 1300 20Ga Western Field Single-Shot 16Ga Sears Ranger .22S-L-LR Bolt-Action Rifle Marlin 795 Semi-Auto (Brother's) Handgun Collection: Springfield Armory XD9 Service

03-03-2012, 07:28 AM	#25
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,245	Re: Primitive Weapons What is the Atlatl? http://www.worldatlatl.org/WhatisAtlatl.html __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.