Y must I pay school tax ???

[mad mother]

Y the heck must I pay school tax when I don't send any kids to school ? This is unconstitutional as hell ! Taxation without representation. !!!

[Bobitis]

It's not unconstitutional.

The tax rate is heinous at the least, but that's what ya get to vote for.

[Ed~]

Why must I pay for the Police? I got my own guns to protect me and mine!

And I don't recall the last time my or any immediate neighbors' houses caught fire. I shouldn't have to pay for them lazy firemen cookin' BBQ all the time.

Come to think of it I don't have kids but my neighbors do. They're always talking about home-schooling them anyway. Maybe we should all just home school and cut down on costs. Everyone's kids stay at home when they sleep don't they? Why not just keep'em there rather than bus them around to some school where you have to pay for teachers and a janitor!

I just don't get this world... all them useless services we all have to pay for through taxes!

And the sewers! Don't get me started about my constipation... If a bear can sh*t in the woods well that's good enough for me & my neighbors.

Just kidding, MadMom... BTW the quote in your signature line is more often attributed to Benjamin Franklin than Ron Paul.

[mad mother]

Where in the constitution does it say homeowners must pay school. tax ? Meanwhile a Mexican family renting an apartment sending four kids to public school pays nada . That is taxation without representation and I beg to differ IS unconstitutional. I should fight this and draw up a petition. since I have time on my hands. I shall call my senator, nice guy John Cornyn.

[joel6180]

Thank you Ed, you saved me from composing a response.

[prof_fate]

You have representation, so go to meetings (school board, state etc) and get the law changed to something else.

But educating folks is good for society and our communities. Free public schools go way back in US history so you're not going to get that changed - have a town vote and you won't get it changed.

OK, so you the taxpayer is gonna pay for the schools. The only question is how? In PA it's mostly by property tax. Some states use the lottery or income tax. Maybe the lottery would work - just don't buy lottery tickets and you're not paying for schools!

This is the issue with health care. Simple question: Should everyone have it? OK, if yes, then how do we pay for it? Individually as we more or less do now, or collectively like we pay for roads and schools and such?

You will always have the issue that some use it and some don't. I paid for schools for a lot of years and now that my kids are in them i'm getting the use of all that money.

I pay insurance - car, homeowners, business, life. I've paid in a whole lot more than I've taken out. But that's the way the system works.

I could reform health care...but too many companies are making way too much profit and therefore can afford to influence those that have the power to change things. I hope obamacare goes into force - I think it's designed to implode the system - as that's about the only way we'll get change.

Who should pay for college or tech schools?

[millwright]

Originally Posted by mad mother

Y the heck must I pay school tax when I don't send any kids to school ? This is unconstitutional as hell ! Taxation without representation. !!!

Suggest you change your perspective. You derive a "corporate benefit" from supporting schools ! First the physical plant can be used for public functions . Second - and perhaps most importantly - "school" serves as a means of creating functional adults capable of taking a responsible place in society ! >MW

[76Highboy]

[rcairflr]

Originally Posted by mad mother

Where in the constitution does it say homeowners must pay school. tax ? Meanwhile a Mexican family renting an apartment sending four kids to public school pays nada . That is taxation without representation and I beg to differ IS unconstitutional. I should fight this and draw up a petition. since I have time on my hands. I shall call my senator, nice guy John Cornyn.

It is not taxation without representation. You have representatives in local, state and federal government. You may not like or agree with them, but you do have them.

I do agree with your premise though. It is ridiculous that someone living in an apartment with 4 kids in school doesn't have to pay any towards their education but a homeowner with no kids has to.

[gvw3]

I agree. Reading and writing are overrated. Math is just another big waste of time.

[rcairflr]

Originally Posted by mad mother

Where in the constitution does it say homeowners must pay school. tax ? Meanwhile a Mexican family renting an apartment sending four kids to public school pays nada . That is taxation without representation and I beg to differ IS unconstitutional. I should fight this and draw up a petition. since I have time on my hands. I shall call my senator, nice guy John Cornyn.

It is not taxation without representation. You have representatives in local, state and federal government. You may not like or agree with them, but you do have them.

The constitution deals with the Federal government, not state and local.

I think you need some lessons in government, from your statements, your knowledge seems very limited.

I do agree with your premise though. It is ridiculous that someone living in an apartment with 4 kids in school doesn't have to pay any towards their education but a homeowner with no kids has to.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by rcairflr

It is not taxation without representation. You have representatives in local, state and federal government. You may not like or agree with them, but you do have them.

I do agree with your premise though. It is ridiculous that someone living in an apartment with 4 kids in school doesn't have to pay any towards their education but a homeowner with no kids has to.

Those taxes are built into the rent they pay. Don't kid yerself if ya think the landlord hasn't taken that into account.

[keokeboy]

had to pay more in calli,compare to arky now,BUT if the schools,[administration],say they will promote more basket wea- ving classes, I might think about it.

[prof_fate]

Originally Posted by rcairflr

I do agree with your premise though. It is ridiculous that someone living in an apartment with 4 kids in school doesn't have to pay any towards their education but a homeowner with no kids has to.

Not true at all.
The renter is paying rent to the building owner who uses that money to pay the taxes on the building. And rent is almost always more than than if you owned the building.

If I rented out my house I'd charge more than it's costing me to live here in mortgage/taxes and upkeep.

[Juker]

Because you drew the wrong Monopoly card.

[carver]

Originally Posted by prof_fate

Not true at all.
The renter is paying rent to the building owner who uses that money to pay the taxes on the building. And rent is almost always more than than if you owned the building.

If I rented out my house I'd charge more than it's costing me to live here in mortgage/taxes and upkeep.

You are correct up to a point! The folks renting the apt., with 4 kids, are not paying anything. Their rent is paid for by those in America that work, and pay taxes. Just like they don't have to pay for food, or cell phones, or gasoline, or lap tops, etc!!! And they don't pay taxes either!

[Crawdaddy]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Those taxes are built into the rent they pay. Don't kid yerself if ya think the landlord hasn't taken that into account.

I agree Bob, this is the premise that makes my blood boil when I hear the Libs make out like raising taxes on the "super rich" will solve anything. The rich for the most part own businesses and provide services, who in their right mind doesn't know that they're just gonna pass their tax increase along to the cosumer?
Who in their right mind? Did I just answer my own question?

[Gun Geezer]

When the lottery was first put into practice in Illinois, the legislatures bragged that it would bring in more money than the schools could ever spend and prevent the need for tax increases forever. Now, the schools are broke, the state is broke, taxes are higher, only the representatives are richer. Hmmm?

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by Gun Geezer

When the lottery was first put into practice in Illinois, the legislatures bragged that it would bring in more money than the schools could ever spend and prevent the need for tax increases forever. Now, the schools are broke, the state is broke, taxes are higher, only the representatives are richer. Hmmm?

Aint that the truth.

[Poppypaul]

Mad Mother:
Because that is the price we pay for Civilization!
It is not taxation without representation. YOUR representatives voted for a certain level of taxation at ALL levels of government. If you do not like what they have done vote them out.

[Rhuga]

Yep, we have hidden taxes, double taxes, unfair taxes, and Obama and Congress keeps spending like a bunch of drunks on a binge.

Political spin,double talk, and stonewalling are what the American people are left with. How can we overcome the goobley gook that is served up by Washington? Somehow American citizens must unite and limit the off the wall politicians from clouding the water with their "on the other hand" decisions that are not in the common good.

We must limit terms of office that government servants serve. Sure some good guys will be affected. But, the Deadwood will be gone! We will then be able to concentrate on the "real" issues at hand that effect the majority.

[TheGunClinger]

MadMother forgets that someone like her, had to pay taxes to educate her.

[whymememe]

Originally Posted by gvw3

I agree. Reading and writing are overrated. Math is just another big waste of time.

gvw3, you funny. Surely the kids are home schooled.

[gvw3]

Originally Posted by whymememe

gvw3, you funny. Surely the kids are home schooled.

Its the only funny thing I could think of to answer this post. I can't believe some one would think like this.

[raven818]

Firemen saved my life. When they arrived ( 911 ), I was clinically dead, no signs of life. I had bled to death in our hallway in 2005 ( 5 ulcers ). I went down, and my wife called. They were here in 5 minutes, so says my wife.

They can have whatever I'm paying, as long as we are able to pay it. That one instance covered everything we did, and will pay.

My heartfelt thanks.