Is the Ruger 1022 hard to find?

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by Big Shrek

Here's everything you'll need to know about Marlin FTE's...avoid Remington Golden Bullsquish & Thunderdud ammo, and read the post below.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=388240

I started out with Winchester ammo. Bought a 555 pack at walmart. After that started having trouble I bought some CCI from a arms store. That would jam every 2 or 3 shots. The Winchester was every shot but it turns out that it was not the ammo. So I gave it a deep cleaning and oiled it. Same thing.

Will check the link for sure. Still might buy the Marlin cause its less. Both the Marlin and the Ruger are brand new. The first Marlin was used but $60 less. The pawn shop can order in pretty much any new gun I want. They are the cheapest place around here after shopping around. The guy cuts me deals on used guns. He took $20 off the used Marlin and also took the tax off. Thats why I got it. It was an even $100 out the door. He cant cut deals on new ones though. But like I said. They are still cheaper then the actual gun stores.

[Zane71464]

Here at Wal-Mart, the Ruger 10/22 Blue and the Stainless Marlin 60 SB are the
same price, $217 plus the 7% state tax.

[Striker911]

Well that helps me lean more towards the Marlin then. Who would have guessed the pawn shop would have the best deals on new ones. We are a small town but things can be overinflated cause of that. One thing for sure. Lots of places buy guns around here. 11,000 people here and being the biggest town for at least an hour; I know of 16 places. Been to all of them in the short 2 years ive been in this area. So im sure we have more. But if both have the same value I better go with the cheaper of the two.

The Marlin looks better IMHO. All I really want it for is the cold months where I can process some rabbit for the grill. Im a beginner rabbit farmer that's processed one. Its so much better then I remember Grandpas rabbit being. But he passed on in 95 so its been a long while. Here was my cooked meal last fall.

[Zane71464]

Between the two as far as the "feel" I like the Marlin!
(accuracy between the two is a matter of opinion!)
*not even going there...

[Regular Joe]

Try shooting a box of CCI Velocitors or Aguila Interceptors thru your Mod. 60. It WILL disintegrate. Get the 10/.22, and install any of the available recoil buffers, and you'll find that you have a rifle that sets a definitive mark between an "average" .22 and the .22 Mag.
Who cares what the rifle costs? The ENTIRE object is to have the thing. I paid over $300 for each of my CRR's, and have not looked back. How long does it take to shoot $300 worth of ammo thru a decent rifle? You're a shooter, or you are not. Buy the 10/.22 or go home.

I have over $750 into this one, and it does what no other brand of semi-auto .22 can.

[Striker911]

Over $700 on a 22? Can I get a loan?

[Zane71464]

Originally Posted by Regular Joe

Try shooting a box of CCI Velocitors or Aguila Interceptors thru your Mod. 60. It WILL disintegrate. Get the 10/.22, and install any of the available recoil buffers, and you'll find that you have a rifle that sets a definitive mark between an "average" .22 and the .22 Mag.
Who cares what the rifle costs? The ENTIRE object is to have the thing. I paid over $300 for each of my CRR's, and have not looked back. How long does it take to shoot $300 worth of ammo thru a decent rifle? You're a shooter, or you are not. Buy the 10/.22 or go home.

I have over $750 into this one, and it does what no other brand of semi-auto .22 can.

If I was going to shoot competition I could see spending 700 bucks
on one, but for "plinki'n"..the o'l marlin does just fine with
CCI Blazers.
That's a fine looking rifle you have there.

[Bindernut]

Originally Posted by Striker911

The Marlin looks better IMHO. All I really want it for is the cold months where I can process some rabbit for the grill. Im a beginner rabbit farmer that's processed one. Its so much better then I remember Grandpas rabbit being. But he passed on in 95 so its been a long while. Here was my cooked meal last fall.

Dangit, that looks good!
I've never done bunny on the grill...I'll have to give that a try sometime.
Was kind of a hard winter for cottontail hunting up here. Not enough snow cover for easy snowshoeing or to force the bunnies up out of the brush where they're easier to spot.

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by Bindernut

Dangit, that looks good!
I've never done bunny on the grill...I'll have to give that a try sometime.
Was kind of a hard winter for cottontail hunting up here. Not enough snow cover for easy snowshoeing or to force the bunnies up out of the brush where they're easier to spot.

I had them all over my place before I started logging. Now I have a hard time cause I have dead brush all over the place. So I need to clean it up. I had chickens free range and went to close the coop one night. I seen 3 rabbits in an open area by the coop and went to get my pellet gun. The pump was blown out, so I had to try my old back up air rifle. I thumped a rabbit but didnt drop it. So I was off to find a scoped 22. Didnt turn out well when the Marlin kept jamming.

The way I cooked my farm raised rabbit made it turn out amazing. I froze it in a bag of water. The next day I thawed and drained all the water. Put a rub on it for about 2 hours and put it on the grill soaking in bbq sauce. It was nothing short of amazing. The back legs where the best. Very tender and bursting with flavor.

I have yet to have any meat come close. I just need to clear some land and get a good rifle. Then im set. I seen rabbit a lot more before I started selling lumber. its been to muddy to clear over the winter. If it wasnt for the lack of knock down power, I bet I could have processed one or two. Since I thumped the one, I have yet to see any in that area. Im such a rookie hunter lol. I blew it.

[GregD]

Purchased a 1022 All Weather, SS barrel (18") with black receiver, at Walmart today, $197.00 plus tax.

[Zane71464]

Congrats Greg and decent price as well!

[Striker911]

I went to walmart to check out what they had the other day. Needed more 9mm luger anyway. The ladys where not very helpful so I ignored the red line and went to look at the locked case. They got on me like fly's on sht. They where pretty rude about it. Why should it be such a bid deal if they are locked up anyways? I asked the question. Still didnt make sense. Not like the luger fits the 22 anyways.

[Zane71464]

Not sure as to their policy but I've had to go there to show them where the ammo
is I want! lol And they keep most of their higher-end knives behind the counter
here as well...and they didnt mind me "haveing a look,see".

[CJ_56]

10/22 is probably the most widely available semi automatic on the planet

Except for the Marlin 60 it is. Marlin has sold a lot more 60's than Ruger has sold 10/22's.

And as far as firing hyper velocity ammo in a 60 goes Regular Joe, you may want to read the manual before you put ammo in the rifle that the company clearly tells you not to use. They aren't designed for that. And buying a buffer for a Ruger - the Marlin comes with one. As for the 10/22 doing what no other semi-auto .22 will do, have you ever shot a T/C rimfire rifle? Because they will do everything that Ruger will do. If you like Ruger fine, more power to you. But let's not be telling the newbies things represented as facts when they are actually opinions, ok?

I'd also like to point out that ammo is a real pain these days. I used to trust Winchester and Federal but both have been selling junk in my part of the country lately. The ammo shortages have made things really bad as far as quality goes. The only consistent ammo in the lower prices I've seen is CCI Blazer. I have yet to have a problem with it. But if your rifle is still gunked up from Winchester ammo it won't cycle either. And too much oil can be a very bad thing for a rifle. It will collect gunpowder residue and eventually cause a lot more problems than it ever fixed. I rarely oil the action of any firearm I own. Most gun manuals say use a drop of oil on the entire action. But I've had rifles go 150,000 rounds without ever being oiled even once. Cleaned yes but never oiled. If I hadn't messed up a spring that rifle would still be going strong. And BTW it was a Marlin 60 that I bought 24 years ago and shot a lot. I'm sure it can still be fixed so I still have it. But I am a little bummed about Marlin right now. I just had a second firing pin break on my 795. I have no idea why it broke. It just did. I guess I'll get another one but the warranty is still good so it will be free.

[Zane71464]

Ive just bought a Marlin 60 this past week and can add a bit of input. And gotta
agree with and add some of what CJ 56 stated.
It's been years since Ive had a 10/22 and I loved the rifle/carbine. But at the time,
I wasnt what I'd call myself, a serious shooter.
I've already put around 2000+ rounds through the Marlin 60 and have found that
it doesnt like the Federal HP's and the Winchester's Lead is some dirty, nasty ammo
for a semi-auto!

With the CCI Blazers and around 1000+ rounds, not one single problem with the
MARLIN!
I sighted the Marlin in dead on @ 50yds and spent a few hours shooting it off the
bench. I mounted a 3-9x32 mil-dot center point scope atop it.

I got it in on the target with Federal ammo and finished the zero with the CCI's.
Had my Son spotting me and without him doing so, I would have sworn the Marlin was either shooting in the same hole, or after the initial fisrt shot of a group, it was WAY off! It wasnt WAY off.

As with most of the other .22's I own, the CCI's are the real deal with
the Marlin 60 SB.

[GregD]

Originally Posted by Striker911

I went to walmart to check out what they had the other day. Needed more 9mm luger anyway. The ladys where not very helpful so I ignored the red line and went to look at the locked case. They got on me like fly's on sht. They where pretty rude about it. Why should it be such a bid deal if they are locked up anyways? I asked the question. Still didnt make sense. Not like the luger fits the 22 anyways.

I do most of my Walmart shopping in West Baton Rouge, the ladies in the sporting goods are really nice. This Walmart has a pretty good selection of ammo and long guns. I recently purchased a box of Reminington .22 shorts ,100 round plastic box and also two bulk boxes of Federal (40 grain lead). I later discovered the .22 shorts were mislabeled and the box contained 22long rifle 40 grain lead. I sent Remington an email and advised them of the problem and the fact that it was not a "big deal" for me, they replied with an apology and had notified the ammo plant.

There are numerous Walmart stores in Baton Rouge that are terrible and I will not walk in these stores. The crime rate in Baton Rouge (my home town) is out of control since hurricane katrina, if you get my drift. I live in Pointe Coupe Parish and we are finally getting a Super Walmart, it should be completed by November this year.

[GregD]

Originally Posted by Zane71464

Congrats Greg and decent price as well!

Thanks . I'm sort of a .22 freak, I have purchased seven more .22 firearms in the last 8 months. I don't know what the future holds but I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best. I know what the . 22 rimfire can do, witnessed it during my 33 years of LE, of which 30 years working detectives. I like all the .22 rilfes, bolt, lever action, pumps and of course the semi-auto, both Marlin and Ruger . Only two rifles have scopes, I still prefer shooting iron sights.

I recently picked up a couple of the bulk boxes of .22 Blazers (525) at Academy, $19.95 a box (?), good ammo . I'm partial to the 40 grain lead, but also have lots of the Remington Yellow Jacket HP.

[jrprich]

I bought my 10/22 for $160 at a local Bi-Mart in January. Syn stock

[somawas]

Consider this if you're considering a 10/22. I've seen used 10/22's manufactured between the mid 70's to mid 90's with the asking/ out-the-door price of $150 to $1200 and new 10/22's from $200 to $600 and a Kidd or Volquartsen 10/22 from a $1000 to $4000. I've seen new and used Marlin Model 60's go for a price of $60 used (out-the-door) to $250 new.

I presently own and shoot a number of .22 rimfire rifles- including the Marlin Model 60 and Ruger 10/22 as well as some others. I've come to the conclusion that all of them have features and characteristics that I like and dislike. I'm not enthusiastic about the tube magazine on the Model 60- a real pain to remove rounds from the magazine and then deal with the loose rounds- but I do like its' relative reliability and accuracy- with particular ammo- and real simple bolt lock. For the use I put my Marlin to, it's accurate enough for squirrel control with CCI or Remington hollow point subsonic ammo. I like the Ruger 10/22 for it's dependability, and ability to accept an endless combination of aftermarket parts to improve it's function and accuracy- matter of fact, I have a 10/22 capable of shooting 1/2" groups with cheap Federal bulk ammo(Auto Match AM22) where the only Ruger manufactured part is the ten round box magazine. The results would probably are better with subsonic "premium" ammo. I also own two other Ruger 10/22's with some modifications. One of these rifles absolutely loves Remington's 40 gr subsonic ammo- who-da-thunk. I also own Savage, and Remington .22's. I'm at a point where each rifle is used for a particular task and reason.

I've shot many brick of .22 ammo and found that ALL .22's are particular regarding brand/ lot of ammo. Some 22's shoot CCI well and other stuff fair or not well at all. Some shoot Federal well and not other brands. Keep in mind that each owner has to determine what ammo shoot well in their firearm.



Have I paid "too" much for any particular rifle? Maybe. It's not an issue though. In terms of what I ultimately pay for a firearm, I'm not concerned with it's worth, but what I'm willing to pay and is it what I want. If price is the major concern and you want "new" buy a Mossberg 702 or 802 Plinkster, otherwise, look around with cash (or credit card) in hand, depending on where you are- Walmart, pawn shop, or gun shop, etc.- be willing to try to negotiate on price, and purchase what ever catches your eye at a price that you're willing to pay.

[Striker911]

Originally Posted by jrprich

I bought my 10/22 for $160 at a local Bi-Mart in January. Syn stock

I missed that one. They are back up to 199 now.

Originally Posted by somawas

Consider this if you're considering a 10/22. I've seen used 10/22's manufactured between the mid 70's to mid 90's with the asking/ out-the-door price of $150 to $1200 and new 10/22's from $200 to $600 and a Kidd or Volquartsen 10/22 from a $1000 to $4000. I've seen new and used Marlin Model 60's go for a price of $60 used (out-the-door) to $250 new.

I presently own and shoot a number of .22 rimfire rifles- including the Marlin Model 60 and Ruger 10/22 as well as some others. I've come to the conclusion that all of them have features and characteristics that I like and dislike. I'm not enthusiastic about the tube magazine on the Model 60- a real pain to remove rounds from the magazine and then deal with the loose rounds- but I do like its' relative reliability and accuracy- with particular ammo- and real simple bolt lock. For the use I put my Marlin to, it's accurate enough for squirrel control with CCI or Remington hollow point subsonic ammo. I like the Ruger 10/22 for it's dependability, and ability to accept an endless combination of aftermarket parts to improve it's function and accuracy- matter of fact, I have a 10/22 capable of shooting 1/2" groups with cheap Federal bulk ammo(Auto Match AM22) where the only Ruger manufactured part is the ten round box magazine. The results would probably are better with subsonic "premium" ammo. I also own two other Ruger 10/22's with some modifications. One of these rifles absolutely loves Remington's 40 gr subsonic ammo- who-da-thunk. I also own Savage, and Remington .22's. I'm at a point where each rifle is used for a particular task and reason.

I've shot many brick of .22 ammo and found that ALL .22's are particular regarding brand/ lot of ammo. Some 22's shoot CCI well and other stuff fair or not well at all. Some shoot Federal well and not other brands. Keep in mind that each owner has to determine what ammo shoot well in their firearm.



Have I paid "too" much for any particular rifle? Maybe. It's not an issue though. In terms of what I ultimately pay for a firearm, I'm not concerned with it's worth, but what I'm willing to pay and is it what I want. If price is the major concern and you want "new" buy a Mossberg 702 or 802 Plinkster, otherwise, look around with cash (or credit card) in hand, depending on where you are- Walmart, pawn shop, or gun shop, etc.- be willing to try to negotiate on price, and purchase what ever catches your eye at a price that you're willing to pay.

Thanks for the input. Some of witch opened my eyes. On the price thing though it is an issue. it dictates rather I have ONE or none. I dont like shooting a 22. Never wanted one till I ate a rabbit, then after buying this place, noticing they are all over my 5 acres.

Id rather have a 30-6. The smallest arm I shoot as of now is a 9mm. Its fun but anything lower and its for sale. My excitement factor comes from the kick. 12ga 3" mag buck shot is my baby. Even to just shoot the ground with it gets me off. All I really have to shoot is cans. Would like to get into hitting steel though.

[larry reed]

Originally Posted by rcairflr

$200 is a fair price, go out and buy it. 10 years from now, is it going to matter whether you paid $200 or waited (and missed out on shooting) for a sale and paid $169?

man i got my 10/22 out of the paper about 15 miles from my house went to see it and it was a ruger 10/22 all stanles steel with stanles steel scope with nice as heck wood stock with a hammer forged ruger barrel stanless all man what a nice gun with 2 25shot banana clips and 1 rotor clip that holds 10 shots i LOVE IT amo is cheep and the best thing is it dont hang up i had to have it. good thing i got my incometax check . i went home with it i paid 400$$ big 1ns . Whare are the Zombes now .

[oldfartrr]

they are both good guns,, have several of both,, the ruger is shorter but same weight as marlin,,, longer barel on the marlin makes it a bit more accurate for longer distances,,
have never had either fail,,
last few years have found myself prefering an older savage bolt action,, will take everything from shorts to long, long rifle and shot shells i have to use on the dam pecker woods when they get in my shop and start tearing up the overhead beams,,,, cant do that with a semi auto
but mostly just personal preference,,
my first ruger paid $65 for it with 4x scope back in '73.... wish i had a few more
depending on where u are have several malin 60's and a 99 that will part with for $100,have been gone thru,,, trying to clean out toooo many toys

[Striker911]

I ended up choosing a basic Remington 30-6 and a brand new Marlin 22. Bought ammo for them both and was turned down after the wait. I then found out that some old traffic tickets are back to bite me. So I started a thread here looking for advice on getting all that cleared up. I could have just had my wife buy them for me and been within the law but I really just want to get it all cleared up. Unfortunately its going to take a couple or even a few years to clear it all up. Thought I was buying the last of the guns for the collection but they will have to wait. If I have my wife buy them it will just take longer to clear my name. To bad I cant take the ammo back : (

[ozo]

If you have the time, check out this forum on rimfires......
Some of these guys get SERIOUS about a .22lr
Beacoup info tho:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

[mr.t7024]

I have two for sale, anyone interested, all original 978-424-7024 Cliff