Halloween banned in Moscow - The Firearms Forum

Shizamus · 10-29-2003, 11:13 PM

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833100.html

1952Sniper · 10-30-2003, 10:52 AM

Meanwhile, here in the States, we are doing the opposite.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing on the radio this morning. They were talking about how the Aztec "Day of the Dead" falls on Halloween, and that local school teachers were building little altars in their classrooms so that students could "celebrate this cultural holiday".

Can you imagine the outrage if a teacher built a Christian altar in a classroom?

What the hell is going on here?

Go-Get Beer · 10-31-2003, 05:46 AM

Why should Russians banning Halloween be bad? At least they didn't ban it because it was a capitalistic and imperialistic tradition, based on superstition. Besides it is only banned from schools. What people do in their own homes is no matter of state anymore.
You must remember that Orthodox Church was the main rallying point for those opposed to communism in the Soviet Union. As the result most of what the Church says is followed by the politicians stemming from former anti-communist factions and by the rest who want to disassociate themselves from the years the Church was persecuted.
Slavic peoples have their own tradition of honoring their dead on November 1st. It is a much more somber affair, with visiting of graves, rememberance services and the like. Some even view the cheerful, colourful festivities of Halloween as distasteful.

10-31-2003, 06:26 AM

well said Go Get Beer

SouthernMoss · 10-31-2003, 10:18 AM

GGB, you'll notice that Shizamus' message has a "thumbs-up" icon beside it. I think he probably agrees with what they did. But thanks for your well-though-out reply. It's good to hear about other countries and cultures, and your mini history lesson helps put things in the proper light.

10-29-2003, 11:13 PM	#1
Shizamus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Vermont Posts: 891	Halloween banned in Moscow http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833100.html __________________ “The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds we are trying to save. Until we do, these people are part of that system and that makes them our enemies. You have to understand that most of these people are not ready to be unplugged and many are so hopelessly dependent on the system, they’ll fight to protect it. “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.” - Morpheus, in the movie, “The Matrix” -->

10-31-2003, 10:18 AM	#5
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	GGB, you'll notice that Shizamus' message has a "thumbs-up" icon beside it. I think he probably agrees with what they did. But thanks for your well-though-out reply. It's good to hear about other countries and cultures, and your mini history lesson helps put things in the proper light. __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

10-30-2003, 10:52 AM	#2
1952Sniper Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 5,138	Meanwhile, here in the States, we are doing the opposite. I couldn't believe what I was hearing on the radio this morning. They were talking about how the Aztec "Day of the Dead" falls on Halloween, and that local school teachers were building little altars in their classrooms so that students could "celebrate this cultural holiday". Can you imagine the outrage if a teacher built a Christian altar in a classroom? What the hell is going on here?

10-31-2003, 05:46 AM	#3
Go-Get Beer Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 42	Why should Russians banning Halloween be bad? At least they didn't ban it because it was a capitalistic and imperialistic tradition, based on superstition. Besides it is only banned from schools. What people do in their own homes is no matter of state anymore. You must remember that Orthodox Church was the main rallying point for those opposed to communism in the Soviet Union. As the result most of what the Church says is followed by the politicians stemming from former anti-communist factions and by the rest who want to disassociate themselves from the years the Church was persecuted. Slavic peoples have their own tradition of honoring their dead on November 1st. It is a much more somber affair, with visiting of graves, rememberance services and the like. Some even view the cheerful, colourful festivities of Halloween as distasteful.

10-31-2003, 06:26 AM	#4
warpig Adnanced Senior Member Posts: n/a	well said Go Get Beer