What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? - Page 2 - The Firearms Forum

graehaven · 03-09-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawg

It wont be better, it WILL be a vote for Obama. Ron Paul is NOT going to be president, so make the best of what we have to work with.

What part of "Romney is just as bad" do you NOT understand?

So, instead of shooting yourself in the head with a .38 you're going to use a .32?

Insanity.

Hawg · 03-09-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

What part of "Romney is just as bad" do you NOT understand?

So, instead of shooting yourself in the head with a .38 you're going to use a .32?

Insanity.

I don't think Romney will be as bad. I don't like him but better him than another four of Obama. It's funny how on all the different gun forums I frequent some of them are almost totally filled with dyed in the wool nobody is better than Ron Paul fanatics and others the majority can't stand him.

yetiman · 03-10-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirtypacman

Please read the following so you can all get better informed... I voted for Romney as MA Governor. I supported him through most of his term. He left me feeling a bit used but on the same basis he is 100% better then Obama for a 2nd term.

http://goal.org/newspages/romney.html

Please again read the above... I have been a gun owner before and after he was governor. He certainly has no perfect record but he made some great strides for gun owners in MA. I am voting for him for president and feel it reasonable to ask others to do the same.

From what I gather this DA is signing legislation that he has no idea what it is? Sounds more like a Liberal to me. Imagine the fun if he manages to become president.

yetiman · 03-10-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

What part of "Romney is just as bad" do you NOT understand?

So, instead of shooting yourself in the head with a .38 you're going to use a .32?

Insanity.

Have you had someone send you an Obama 12 bumper sticker yet like I did?

graehaven · 03-10-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawg

I don't think Romney will be as bad. I don't like him but better him than another four of Obama. It's funny how on all the different gun forums I frequent some of them are almost totally filled with dyed in the wool nobody is better than Ron Paul fanatics and others the majority can't stand him.

I find it increasingly disturbing that those that are anti-Ron Paul have no idea what his background is, they haven't read his platform, they don't know his voting record, nor have they read anything he's written to see what he believes. They simply take, as gospel, what the media feeds them. And what the media is feeding is "vote Romney." And, the "fair and balanced" network is the biggest offender.

Guess what, if someone "tells" me that they're fair and balanced in their viewpoint, that's a HUGE red flag. Because they're not.

Common sense SHOULD tell you that whoever the media doesn't want to talk about, and doesn't like - that's YOUR guy. Pretty frickin' simple.

The fact that he's a constitutionalist, and the closest to our founders of anyone in this generation, is the deciding factor. If you LIKE government control, dabbling in your life, lots of wars, and spending, then don't vote for Paul; vote for one of the other three soon to be dictators, depending on which one gets in.

Track records matter. We all found that out the hard way with our present dictator. But for some reason, the track records of the 3 front runners in the R camp DON'T matter, once again. We will get either Dictator O, or Dictator R.

All because people keep believing the stupid media.

Hey, when they're loading you and your families into the rail cars to the camps, be sure to keep believing what the media tells you - that it's all for your good.

graehaven · 03-10-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by yetiman

Have you had someone send you an Obama 12 bumper sticker yet like I did?

No, but I made my own Romney sticker. But, I won't post that again, I might get in trouble. More than I'm already in.

Hawg · 03-10-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

I find it increasingly disturbing that those that are anti-Ron Paul have no idea what his background is, they haven't read his platform, they don't know his voting record, nor have they read anything he's written to see what he believes. They simply take, as gospel, what the media feeds them. And what the media is feeding is "vote Romney." And, the "fair and balanced" network is the biggest offender.

I don't believe what the media says and I have heard what he believes and wants to do. Some of his ideas are good but some are so far off the wall it ain't funny. I do not like Romney but I think he's the one we're going to have.

yetiman · 03-10-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

No, but I made my own Romney sticker. But, I won't post that again, I might get in trouble. More than I'm already in.

That "O" makes a great place to aim urine in the back of a urinal........

graehaven · 03-10-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawg

I don't believe what the media says and I have heard what he believes and wants to do. Some of his ideas are good but some are so far off the wall it ain't funny. I do not like Romney but I think he's the one we're going to have.

I think you are right, that Romney will be the one.

Unfortunately, the other three guys' views are a LOT scarier than Paul's. They don't believe in cutting spending like we need to. They don't believe in properly shrinking the government like we need to. They don't believe in non-interventionist policies but will continue the warmongering.

jlloyd73 · 03-10-2012, 09:38 AM

I like Ron Paul, but he put himself in the position not to win. He could have refined his foreign policy stance some not to scare so many people away (that is most people's complain on him from what I gather). We have to be proactive in modern times to prevent other 9/11 scenarios. I love the fact that he believe on the true meaning of our Constitution....and wants to get back to the basics.

I don't really care for Romney, but anyone other than Obozo works for me.

I would have much rather be dealing with Perry or Santurum in the end.

Jerryboy · 03-10-2012, 12:31 PM

If the choice is either Obomney or Obummer, I will write-in for Ron Paul, and I believe a lot of other people will too. Imagine having someone win the election with write-in votes!

I doubt it would happen though. Even if Ron Paul got 90% of all the votes in the country, even if the electoral college chooses him, the government will not let him be president. If he wins, when he shows up for his inauguration he'll be escorted off the scene by the SS.

There is no way someone who doesn't belong to the establishment can be president

Hawg · 03-10-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerryboy

If the choice is either Obomney or Obummer, I will write-in for Ron Paul, and I believe a lot of other people will too.

Which could be all it takes to give Obama another four.

whirley · 03-10-2012, 02:17 PM

If you vote for Ron Paul, you might as well vote for Obama, Ron Paul has NO CHANCE to win. Most people think of Paul as a wacko. He and Obama will let Iran develop a nuke and use it on Israel or perhaps on us because "We're the great satan". I honestly believe that Obama is a firm believer in the Muslim religion, and our country is at great peril if he has a second term. Vote, but make it a vote for a winner to put him OUT! Paul is not a republican, he's a Libertarian. In my opinion, the ideal candidates are Romney for pres. and Newt Gingrich as V.P. Gingrich is much better on his feet in a debate than Romney. Newt has the guts to talk down the liberal media. MAKE SURE YOU ALSO VOTE FOR Republican Senators and Congressmen. The Democrats in the Senate are deliberatly blocking all legislation and you all know it....

RunningOnMT · 03-10-2012, 03:37 PM

I really sympathize with Ron Paul supporters and do like the man, but facts are facts, and that Dr. Paul can not win IS fact. I wish I were wrong. I've said before if everyone who likes Ron Paul but will vote for someone else because they don't think he can win, would in fact vote for Paul, he WOULD win. But the numbers don't indicate that can happen.

So because Romney truly is no conservative you would stand on principle and not vote for him? What principle will get you is four more years of Obama. I don't like Romney but anyone who thinks he is no better than Obama has an awfully high opinion of Obama. I loathe brussel sprouts but if the choice was between them and whale ****, I'd eat the brussel sprouts, and if I was starving I wouldn't give up the opportunity on an outside chance there might be strawberries on the moon.

Hawg · 03-10-2012, 04:58 PM

I like a lot of what RP says but he says some things I cannot get behind. If he got the nomination I would vote for him but it wouldn't really be a vote for him but a vote against Obama. I'd much rather have Romney than Obama. I'd rather have Romney than RP and I really do not like Romney but it looks like he's going to be it.

BobMcG · 03-10-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RunningOnMT

I really sympathize with Ron Paul supporters and do like the man, but facts are facts, and that Dr. Paul can not win IS fact. I wish I were wrong. I've said before if everyone who likes Ron Paul but will vote for someone else because they don't think he can win, would in fact vote for Paul, he WOULD win. But the numbers don't indicate that can happen.

So because Romney truly is no conservative you would stand on principle and not vote for him? What principle will get you is four more years of Obama. I don't like Romney but anyone who thinks he is no better than Obama has an awfully high opinion of Obama. I loathe brussel sprouts but if the choice was between them and whale ****, I'd eat the brussel sprouts, and if I was starving I wouldn't give up the opportunity on an outside chance there might be strawberries on the moon.

Amen to that. Thank you for speaking my mind.

By the looks of things in here, Berry's chances of having at us with another four years are better than I would have ever thought. Not voting at all or voting for a guaranteed looser are the equal of a vote for him and unfortunately, very unfortunately, I firmly believe the 2nd will be abolished forever and he can do it through Supreme Court appointments. I'm not willing to take that risk no matter what. Do I like Romney? No, but I like whale **** even less.

45nut · 03-10-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

Yeah, I said that, at the end of that last post. And whatever I did to offend you, I'm sorry.

My Brother, you do not offend, you enlighten. I'm still weighing my options. I don't get to vote for a while in Texas, so things may have been settled a bit by then.

There are no good choices. Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Sarah Palin, Alan West are all better than the crap we've got left.

I will vote for ABO, anybody but Obozo

BobMcG · 03-10-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 45nut

There are no good choices. Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, Sarah Palin, Alan West are all better than the crap we've got left.

I have to agree with you.

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Originally Posted by 45nut

I will vote for ABO, anybody but Obozo

Same here.

savage170 · 03-11-2012, 10:48 AM

graehaven · 03-11-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by whirley

If you vote for Ron Paul, you might as well vote for Obama, Ron Paul has NO CHANCE to win. Most people think of Paul as a wacko. He and Obama will let Iran develop a nuke and use it on Israel or perhaps on us because "We're the great satan". I honestly believe that Obama is a firm believer in the Muslim religion, and our country is at great peril if he has a second term. Vote, but make it a vote for a winner to put him OUT! Paul is not a republican, he's a Libertarian. In my opinion, the ideal candidates are Romney for pres. and Newt Gingrich as V.P. Gingrich is much better on his feet in a debate than Romney. Newt has the guts to talk down the liberal media. MAKE SURE YOU ALSO VOTE FOR Republican Senators and Congressmen. The Democrats in the Senate are deliberatly blocking all legislation and you all know it....

And you wonder why things are the way they are, no change and getting worse. Towing the party line is the WRONG way to go anymore.

Vote for Republican senators and congressmen????? You mean the same ones that just sold us out AGAIN? on the bill that would imprison protesters at government sites????

Hawg · 03-11-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

And you wonder why things are the way they are, no change and getting worse. Towing the party line is the WRONG way to go anymore.

Vote for Republican senators and congressmen????? You mean the same ones that just sold us out AGAIN? on the bill that would imprison protesters at government sites????

All I can say is, if you want four more then vote for Paul.

graehaven · 03-11-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawg

All I can say is, if you want four more then vote for Paul.

Less than 40 percent of the eligible voting population usually votes in a presidential election.

Um, whose fault is it?

Not those who choose someone other than the corrupted party choice.

gun runner · 03-12-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by savage170

Hawg · 03-12-2012, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by graehaven

Less than 40 percent of the eligible voting population usually votes in a presidential election.

Um, whose fault is it?

Not those who choose someone other than the corrupted party choice.

Then vote for Paul and help put Obama back in.

Jerryboy · 03-12-2012, 04:03 AM

If the only choices are White Obama and Half-White Obama, i will simply vote for my dog, Shellie. She's a beautiful Golden Retriever, and would make a much better president than almost anyone else we're likely to see on the ballot. She's loyal, faithful, obedient, honest, content, and always eager to please. She is never devious, she never says one thing and means another, she doesn't crap in the house and on the rare occasion when she has an accident she doesn't try to blame everyone but herself.

Shellie 2012!!!

03-10-2012, 09:38 AM	#35
jlloyd73 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Contributor Posts: 1,931	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? I like Ron Paul, but he put himself in the position not to win. He could have refined his foreign policy stance some not to scare so many people away (that is most people's complain on him from what I gather). We have to be proactive in modern times to prevent other 9/11 scenarios. I love the fact that he believe on the true meaning of our Constitution....and wants to get back to the basics. I don't really care for Romney, but anyone other than Obozo works for me. I would have much rather be dealing with Perry or Santurum in the end. __________________ --------------------------------------------------- The only thing better than good family is good friends. J and D Lloyd Get ready...it's getting "real" and really fast!

03-10-2012, 12:31 PM	#36
Jerryboy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 709	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? If the choice is either Obomney or Obummer, I will write-in for Ron Paul, and I believe a lot of other people will too. Imagine having someone win the election with write-in votes! I doubt it would happen though. Even if Ron Paul got 90% of all the votes in the country, even if the electoral college chooses him, the government will not let him be president. If he wins, when he shows up for his inauguration he'll be escorted off the scene by the SS. There is no way someone who doesn't belong to the establishment can be president

03-10-2012, 02:17 PM	#38
whirley V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Contributor Posts: 457	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? If you vote for Ron Paul, you might as well vote for Obama, Ron Paul has NO CHANCE to win. Most people think of Paul as a wacko. He and Obama will let Iran develop a nuke and use it on Israel or perhaps on us because "We're the great satan". I honestly believe that Obama is a firm believer in the Muslim religion, and our country is at great peril if he has a second term. Vote, but make it a vote for a winner to put him OUT! Paul is not a republican, he's a Libertarian. In my opinion, the ideal candidates are Romney for pres. and Newt Gingrich as V.P. Gingrich is much better on his feet in a debate than Romney. Newt has the guts to talk down the liberal media. MAKE SURE YOU ALSO VOTE FOR Republican Senators and Congressmen. The Democrats in the Senate are deliberatly blocking all legislation and you all know it....

03-10-2012, 03:37 PM	#39
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? I really sympathize with Ron Paul supporters and do like the man, but facts are facts, and that Dr. Paul can not win IS fact. I wish I were wrong. I've said before if everyone who likes Ron Paul but will vote for someone else because they don't think he can win, would in fact vote for Paul, he WOULD win. But the numbers don't indicate that can happen. So because Romney truly is no conservative you would stand on principle and not vote for him? What principle will get you is four more years of Obama. I don't like Romney but anyone who thinks he is no better than Obama has an awfully high opinion of Obama. I loathe brussel sprouts but if the choice was between them and whale ***, I'd eat the brussel sprouts, and if I was starving I wouldn't give up the opportunity on an outside chance there might be strawberries on the moon. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!" Last edited by RunningOnMT; 03-10-2012 at 03:38 PM..*

03-10-2012, 04:58 PM	#40
Hawg Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,554	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? I like a lot of what RP says but he says some things I cannot get behind. If he got the nomination I would vote for him but it wouldn't really be a vote for him but a vote against Obama. I'd much rather have Romney than Obama. I'd rather have Romney than RP and I really do not like Romney but it looks like he's going to be it.

03-11-2012, 10:48 AM	#44
savage170 V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: FL Posts: 385	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights?

03-12-2012, 04:03 AM	#50
Jerryboy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 709	Re: What has Mass. Gov. Romney doen for Gun Rights? If the only choices are White Obama and Half-White Obama, i will simply vote for my dog, Shellie. She's a beautiful Golden Retriever, and would make a much better president than almost anyone else we're likely to see on the ballot. She's loyal, faithful, obedient, honest, content, and always eager to please. She is never devious, she never says one thing and means another, she doesn't crap in the house and on the rare occasion when she has an accident she doesn't try to blame everyone but herself. Shellie 2012!!!