Religion vs Jesus

[One Shot]

Not fond of the medium but the message holds a lot of truth.

What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

os

[Bobitis]

I thinks it's one mans opinion put on youtube. But that's just me.

[ampaterry]

I think this young man is very sincere, and this is one of the best pieces I have seen done. He is exactly correct. Perhaps it appeals so much to me because I sought truth in several religions of the world before I was saved by Jesus Christ.

And personally, I HATE rap -

[user]

Religions are merely linguistic systems which might be more or less effective. Theology is a way of describing our own thoughts, opinions, aspirations, and fears, and tells us about us, not about God. The only thing that matters is that one is on his own path and moving. The goal is one-to-one correspondence with The-God-That-Is. I tell people to go into churches a little late and see what it feels like on the inside during the service. If you can feel the collective love from the people there, it's the right place to be; but if it feels like death warmed over, you can't get out of there fast enough. The religion doesn't matter; what matters is the relationship. And being with other people who share the relationship for mutual encouragement and support is a key factor in personal growth.

[ampaterry]

Religions are linguistic systems.
And Theology is about us and not God.

Honestly, I cannot agree with either statement.
Hmm.

[The tank]

I agree there is difference between Jesus and false religions, This video is awesome too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGqr...eature=related

[One Shot]

Sorry Tank, there's no Truth in that version.

os

[jack404]

pure taqqiya , but nice try .. ( islam trying to score points off real faiths again)

[ampaterry]

Absolute propaganda, aimed at people who are ignorant of BOTH the Bible AND the Koran. Folks familiar with EITHER book can punch lots of holes in this production. Folks familiar with BOTH books can see it for the propaganda it is.

[graehaven]

Originally Posted by The tank

I agree there is difference between Jesus and false religions, This video is awesome too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGqr...eature=related

That video is satanic.

[jack404]

i find it funny that b those who project islam as a faith dont know it well enough for themselves , but are happy to shove it down everyone elses and say its wonderful , but never realise that islam is the most deadly and dangerous ideaology on the planet

Its killed more people and enslaved more than any other single thing ..

its stolen from the other major faiths, and mixed them with roman and greek mythology ( Nymrod etc) , and history and got it all so wrong ( alexander the great died young but the koran quote the old myth he really lived till he was old , the greeks got this wrong and allah copied this mistake . allah being moo hamm odd's alter ego )

but this video is to be expected in this light

a man does something to explain God and of course the islamics gotta copy it , thats how moo ham odd invented islam , a bit from here a bit from there , some psychotic inspriration and viola ! a new religion

now they'll twist this gents open and honest statement of faith and turn it to claim islam did it first and if the gent objects they'll put a fatwa on him so the truth wont ever be found ( so they think)

this evil persistant desire to be real like the other faiths does it too islamic as deep down i think most realise allah is a scam , islam is a scam , but are too afraid to say anything as look what happens if they do !!

pity the islamists , pray for them as they are all deceived ..

and pray the evil of mohammed stops in their life and they get free and clear of the greatest scam on the planet .. islam

[jack404]

http://vimeo.com/27655704

[BlackEagle]

Originally Posted by jack404

http://vimeo.com/27655704

Thanks for that Jack;
I get regular email updates describing the persecuted church in the Middle East; but then Christians face a certain amount of persecution wherever we are.

The first video is spot on. When I was in high school, my classmates saw there was a difference between my lifestyle and theirs, and they asked me if I was religious. I thought a moment and said I sure hope not. What I have is a relationship with God through Jesus Christ that makes me a Christian. "Being religious" is, as far as I'm concerned, following a bunch of rules to try to look right. Relationship brings life and true peace. Religion has brought a world of pain and misery.

[graehaven]

We Christians in America have yet to be truly persecuted. And I'm afraid that that is what's coming, and soon.

The chinese church is PRAYING FOR persecution for America's Christians, so that we'll stop playing around and get serious. That is sobering.

[BlackEagle]

I've been reading Fox's Book Of Martyrs. It's a free download for anyone who has an e-book reader, from Projct Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22400 . Really sobering reading and not for the squeamish.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by ampaterry

Absolute propaganda, aimed at people who are ignorant of BOTH the Bible AND the Koran. Folks familiar with EITHER book can punch lots of holes in this production. Folks familiar with BOTH books can see it for the propaganda it is.

Bullseye. I don't believe in any religion, just my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who died for all.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by graehaven

We Christians in America have yet to be truly persecuted. And I'm afraid that that is what's coming, and soon.

The chinese church is PRAYING FOR persecution for America's Christians, so that we'll stop playing around and get serious. That is sobering.

Ditto on that.

[bernie57]

jesus is my lord and savior, but this all is sad

[ampaterry]

I agree, Bernie, it is sad.

But frankly, I am frightened when I see the direction our nation is heading.
I have studied the Koran and much of the Hadith, and understand what Islam believes.
I have looked at history, and seen what effect Islam has had on the countries it has come to dominate.
And I look at our present leadership, and hear their pronouncements that it is a "religion of peace", and realize that if this attitude does not change we may be facing dark days ahead here in the US.

At this point in history, I see Islam as the gravest danger facing our country, and our world.

[BlackEagle]

Originally Posted by ampaterry

I agree, Bernie, it is sad.

But frankly, I am frightened when I see the direction our nation is heading.
I have studied the Koran and much of the Hadith, and understand what Islam believes.
I have looked at history, and seen what effect Islam has had on the countries it has come to dominate.
And I look at our present leadership, and hear their pronouncements that it is a "religion of peace", and realize that if this attitude does not change we may be facing dark days ahead here in the US.

At this point in history, I see Islam as the gravest danger facing our country, and our world.

Agree.

[One Shot]

I would say that from outside the US you are correct, but from within, Secular Humanism is doing far greater damage than Islam IMHO.

[ampaterry]

OS, I sure do disagree with secular humanism -
But they are not killing thousands of American citizens through terrorist acts.

Wait a minute -
Abortion does that, and it is certainly supported by this crowd -

Hmmm.

Tough call - -

[bernie57]

what are christians to do if muslims start killing us?I listen to jack van impe, he says we shouldnt murder but killing is diffeerent,when you kill a person because they murdered someone for money ,sex, or just to watch their lifes slip away,then killing them is not bad its the law, our constitution guarantes freedom of religion, and GOD given rights of life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness, if one sect of of evil people try to kill us and take those rights away their guilty of murder, didnt Jesus say "he that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity,he that kills with a sword must be killed with the sword, and why does jesus say in luke 22.36and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. ?I SEE very clearly whats going on in the world, but I have no idea besides my faith of what I should do if I see my neighbors being murdered because of their faith...????

[One Shot]

If we fall from the outside it may well be to Islam. If we fall from the inside it will be to Secular Humanism. They do want a one world socialist government (who does that remind you of) and they support all the PC "Islam: the religion of peace" misinformation out there.

Too many are giving a pass to the Secular Humanist movement.

I often wonder if all the attention to Islam is just an effort to keep our eyes off the evil perpetrated by the Secular Humanists.

Is it possible that Islam is more like a tree and SH is more like the forest?

[ampaterry]

If I see someone murdering my neighbor, or ANYONE for that matter, I will not inquire whether they are SH or Islamic; I will stop them by any means necessary, including deadly.

The thing we must NOT do is to decide to kill a Muslim because ANOTHER muslim committed murder. We need to try to get them to LEAVE that evil system and turn to God.