Wicked Wadcutters - The Firearms Forum

carver · 03-21-2012, 09:43 PM

http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/2...utters_200901/

JLA · 03-21-2012, 09:54 PM

this has been my personal preference for years. i believe there to be nothing more effective as a defence round than a .44 special loaded with full wadcutters to about 700 fps.

carver · 03-21-2012, 09:57 PM

They are about all I use around the house, and all the stock piling I'm doing on the ammo is mostly in DEWC's for .38/357mag, .44spl/44mag. Loading some LRN for the semi-autos.

76Highboy · 03-21-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JLA

this has been my personal preference for years. i believe there to be nothing more effective as a defence round than a .44 special loaded with full wadcutters to about 700 fps.

Yes, and they work wonders on rabbits in that caliber JLA. 700-750 fps in 44spl is a great round with a wad cutter.

JLA · 03-21-2012, 10:07 PM

Yep, pretty much a .45 ACP equivalent with a bullet thats all meplat. Makes an audible splat when it hits a soft target.

JLA · 03-21-2012, 10:07 PM

Another of my favs is an inverted HBWC. Like wicked hollowpoints.

H-D · 03-21-2012, 11:36 PM

Good article , I have a loaded mag of .45acp in my bedside 1911 I feel like it is adequate to the task and its put a couple hundred down range with no problems, I can't afford to test a lot of hollowpoints at a buck a pop , I shot a box through it and it fed them all and went Bang, but I know that if I can ding a 8 inch circle at 15 yds offhand I can put one " between his pockets" in my house

carver · 03-22-2012, 07:24 AM

Some of the different types of wadcutters. Keith Style wadcutter, Double Ended Wadcutter (DEWC), WFN wadcutter(wide flat nose), and the HBWC (hollow base wadcutter). I like them all, and there are many other shapes out there to choose from. These are the ones I like the best. The wider the meplet (the front end of the bullet), the less penetration you get. That's why Keith shaped his the way he did. His bullet created a large wound chanel, and yet gave more penetration than a DEWC, which created a larger wound chanel, but did not give the penetration that Keith was looking for.

mikld · 03-22-2012, 02:19 PM

My "house gun" has been loaded with 148 gr. DEWCs, cast from wheel weight alloy, over a stiff load of W231. I think I have good tissue damage with good penetration without bullets continuing beyond target (over penetration danger to neighbors)...

BTW: In the '80s hollow based wadcutters loaded backwards were the fad for reloaders until an article was written about how well they worked. Extensive testing showed that the wide "hollow point" would just collapse, some came apart/skirt tore off, or clog with clothing and act like a solid. Rarely did one open as expected (it had to be a straight on shot to bare gel). Of course I tried it and got so-so results (didn't use gel but wet newsprint), and most collapsed and came apart. Fair accuracy to 10 yards but shotgun type patterns beyond that.

03-21-2012, 09:43 PM	#1
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,288	Wicked Wadcutters http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/2...utters_200901/ __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. -->

03-21-2012, 09:54 PM	#2
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: Wicked Wadcutters this has been my personal preference for years. i believe there to be nothing more effective as a defence round than a .44 special loaded with full wadcutters to about 700 fps. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-21-2012, 09:57 PM	#3
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,288	Re: Wicked Wadcutters They are about all I use around the house, and all the stock piling I'm doing on the ammo is mostly in DEWC's for .38/357mag, .44spl/44mag. Loading some LRN for the semi-autos. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-21-2012, 10:07 PM	#5
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: Wicked Wadcutters Yep, pretty much a .45 ACP equivalent with a bullet thats all meplat. Makes an audible splat when it hits a soft target. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-21-2012, 10:07 PM	#6
JLA TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Heart Of Texas Contributor Posts: 17,319	Re: Wicked Wadcutters Another of my favs is an inverted HBWC. Like wicked hollowpoints. __________________ It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!

03-21-2012, 11:36 PM	#7
H-D Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 1,334	Re: Wicked Wadcutters Good article , I have a loaded mag of .45acp in my bedside 1911 I feel like it is adequate to the task and its put a couple hundred down range with no problems, I can't afford to test a lot of hollowpoints at a buck a pop , I shot a box through it and it fed them all and went Bang, but I know that if I can ding a 8 inch circle at 15 yds offhand I can put one " between his pockets" in my house __________________ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

03-22-2012, 07:24 AM	#8
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,288	Re: Wicked Wadcutters Some of the different types of wadcutters. Keith Style wadcutter, Double Ended Wadcutter (DEWC), WFN wadcutter(wide flat nose), and the HBWC (hollow base wadcutter). I like them all, and there are many other shapes out there to choose from. These are the ones I like the best. The wider the meplet (the front end of the bullet), the less penetration you get. That's why Keith shaped his the way he did. His bullet created a large wound chanel, and yet gave more penetration than a DEWC, which created a larger wound chanel, but did not give the penetration that Keith was looking for. Attached Images __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old. Last edited by carver; 03-22-2012 at 07:26 AM..

03-22-2012, 02:19 PM	#9
mikld Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 573	Re: Wicked Wadcutters My "house gun" has been loaded with 148 gr. DEWCs, cast from wheel weight alloy, over a stiff load of W231. I think I have good tissue damage with good penetration without bullets continuing beyond target (over penetration danger to neighbors)... BTW: In the '80s hollow based wadcutters loaded backwards were the fad for reloaders until an article was written about how well they worked. Extensive testing showed that the wide "hollow point" would just collapse, some came apart/skirt tore off, or clog with clothing and act like a solid. Rarely did one open as expected (it had to be a straight on shot to bare gel). Of course I tried it and got so-so results (didn't use gel but wet newsprint), and most collapsed and came apart. Fair accuracy to 10 yards but shotgun type patterns beyond that. __________________ My Anchor is holding fast. Last edited by mikld; 03-22-2012 at 02:26 PM..