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in Tacoma Wash mother left her 3 year old in car as she went in store the 3 year old picked up her gun that was under the seat and shot himself, she was arrested.
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Serves her ass right. She violated 2 major no-nos in my book. First and most importantly she left a loaded weapon unsecured in an area where a child could gain access. And secondly and just about as severe she left a toddler age child unattended in a vehicle.
Some lines just shouldnt be crossed and that woman deserves whatever the law can get her for.
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yes she did its a shame the kid had to suffer for her mistakes
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Any reports on the condition of the child?
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The child died. So sad.
Here is a link to the story. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ly-shoots-self Last edited by hstout1143; 03-28-2012 at 08:36 PM.. |
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She should be charged with manslaughter at the very least and be stripped of all of her parental and legal rights after doing some time in the can. I hope they throw the book at her.
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It takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 3 for proper trigger squeeze. The latest caliber or gear is no substitute for experience and skill. Rifles and cartridges don't make hits -- shooters do. Fact of life: After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says WTF!
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Damn! Stories of the loss of an innocent child just tear at my heart. Even more so when it's at the hands of irresponsible adults.
Somebody needs to get a rope.
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The real sad part is some bottom feeding attorney will help her be declared mentally incompetent to stand trial and she will get away with it.
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It sucks that the kid is dead. But I don't believe a 3-year-old has a big enough hand to shoot a gun. A 9mm automatic? I call BS.
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Last edited by JLA; 03-29-2012 at 07:38 AM.. Reason: come on alpo, you know better than that |
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Who in their right mind shows off a pistol to a 3 year old child as a toy? The story says that the dad? Was allowing the 3 year old to handle the gun until another adult said something. I hope that this haunts both of them until they take their last breaths. I have a young daughter and could never imagine allowing her to play with a gun as if it were a toy. This is a perfect exapmle for why some people should have to take a test to breed. Just my opinion.....
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I have a 3 year old daughter and can't imagine leaving he alone for more than a moment because she is always into trouble. My brain can't even get around leaving a 3 year old unsupervised around a loaded gun!
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First off, this is a sad story. And I dont agree that "it serves her right" for leaving the kid with a loaded gun in the car. While this was a monumental mistake, it was a horrific mistake that led to the death of a 3 yr old child and the mother must be sick out of her mind. Who knows the whole story. Could it be that her husband or boyfriend left the gun there and she didnt know it was there? I mean I am not making any excuses, you should know these things and make sure of these things but its possible she didnt even know. Its a horrible situation and I hate it for everyone involved. If she knew the gun was in the car, she will have to be charged. But, she has got to be sick out of her mind for being so stupid.
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I can agree with that. it is just one angle, but the fact of the matter is she still left the child unattended.
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DoubleD,
The article says that the man, even tho he had a permit to carry, left the gun with the woman so as not to alarm anyone. While pumping gas, the 3 yr old released himself and went to the front and asked the mother for candy. She put the gun under the seat and left the kids unattended to go for candy.
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When all is said and done at the end of the day, there is still one less innocent child in the world and we are all poorer for that. Perhaps that kid would have grown up and cured cancer. We will never know.
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I cannot even begin to imagine the type, and depth of grief these people must be feeling. It's very easy to sit here now and point out how stupid, irresponsible, and preventable this was. It was a stupid thing to do, and it was bad judgement, but we have all done stupid things in our lives, some worse than this, with or without guns. Most all of the time, stupidity or bad judgement allows us to learn a valuable life lesson, usually with little or no damage to ourselves or those around us. But everyonce in a while, someone gets handed a lesson that comes with a severity that most of us will never know, that far exceeds the usual.
I don't think I could send her to jail just because all the stars were lined up during her stupid mistake. I can't help but feel compassion for these people, and hope they can somehow survive this in time. We all make mistakes in our lives, fortunately we don't have to go to prison everytime we make one, at least not yet. I will pray for this family and their lost son. Tom
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The question is was it just a stupid mistake or negligence?
If it is shown to be negligence then she needs to be punished. Is it just a stupid mistake when these parents leave their kids in locked cars while the windows are rolled up.....in 100 degree weather?
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It sounds like the man is mostly responsible, he has the permit and failed to
secure pistol. He shifted his responsibility on to someone else, but does not relieve him of his responsibility. He was standing next to van gassing vehicle. How many of you have pulled into station and got out and gotten gas with children in vehicle. So children were not left alone. They both pulled some very stupid boners and now the mother will pay the rest of her life. My daughter has been gone for 6 years and the pain is still there, it has become bearable. I was not responsible for her death and I can not begin to imagine pain of having known you caused your child's death. I don't think I could live with it. Death sentence would be preferable.
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Idiots like that should never have kids to begin with.
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Please clarify.
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