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22WRF · 03-30-2012, 09:39 PM

NRA Will Appeal Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home

Posted on March 30, 2012
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Fairfax, Va. – Late today, a federal district court in Illinois wrongly ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect a right to carry firearms for self-protection outside the home. The NRA funded this challenge to Illinois’ ban on citizens’ ability to carry firearms legally outside their homes and businesses for self-defense, and will also be supporting an immediate appeal to the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals—and to the Supreme Court if necessary.

The decision in the case of Shepard v. Madigan misreads the Supreme Court’s Second Amendment decisions and will continue to deprive law-abiding Illinoisans of the right to protect themselves effectively against crime on the streets. It also conflicts with a growing body of case law elsewhere in the country, where courts have increasingly recognized that the right to bear arms for self-defense doesn’t end at Americans’ front doors.

“The NRA’s legal efforts will not end until the right to carry firearms for self-defense is fully recognized throughout our land,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action.

armoredman · 03-30-2012, 10:03 PM

Once in Chicago, always in Chicago. The Machine is alive and well, all the way to the top.

American Leader · 03-30-2012, 10:19 PM

Yes, The Communist State Of Illinois!

armoredman · 03-31-2012, 12:13 AM

And yet, two federal judges decided for the 2A. Both in Mass, IIRC. I see a crisis in law coming. Again.

carver · 03-31-2012, 11:10 AM

Late today, a federal district court in Illinois wrongly ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect a right to carry firearms for self-protection outside the home.

I wonder who's constitution he was reading? Probably the one he wrote!

Double D · 03-31-2012, 11:44 AM

If bozo gets another term and appoints more left wing lunatics to the supreme court, we wont be carrying anywhere.

carver · 03-31-2012, 11:52 AM

Not only will you not be carring, but you probably won't even be able to own a firearm!

Iron Eagle · 03-31-2012, 12:54 PM

I really dout that Obummer will get reelected. Too much mess.

armoredman · 03-31-2012, 03:09 PM

Remember the Black Panther "Poll Watchers" that intimidated voters in 2008, and were never prosecuted? They will be out in force, anywhere the Machine can't vote the graveyards.

gvw3 · 03-31-2012, 04:10 PM

What a surprise. This is 100% chicago. To many war zones down there to arm the public. People go to jail there for any form of self defense.

Marlin T · 04-01-2012, 05:47 PM

I was hoping that the NRA was working jointly with the SAF but they both filed in different districts. The NRA filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Illinois while the SAF suit was filed in the Centeral District of Illinois.

This could be good news too I guess, but the NRA has a track record.

Zane71464 · 04-02-2012, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Double D

If bozo gets another term and appoints more left wing lunatics to the supreme court, we wont be carrying anywhere.

100% correct! That's one of his "main" goals for a "start" of things to come.

Eddie N · 04-05-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

If bozo gets another term and appoints more left wing lunatics to the supreme court, we wont be carrying anywhere.

But the criminals will.

whirley · 04-05-2012, 01:54 PM

Looking at his voting record while in the Illinois State Legislature, we won't have anything except a good lock to defend ourselves or our families, not even the pirchforks he often refers to.

mintaka · 04-08-2012, 06:38 PM

Here's something to think about...Illinois is #13 in homocides...5.5 homocides per 100,000 pop.....that's with the strictest laws imaginable...
Florida now in daily headlines is #15 in homocides with 5.2 per 100,000k....
Which means there are about 35 states with lower homocide rates than Illinois...

By the way Loisianna is worst at 11.2 per 100,000
And Vt. Is #49 with 1.1 per 100k with right to carry concealed with no permit
FBI figures.

76Highboy · 04-08-2012, 09:41 PM

If Obummer makes it back in we will all be in the same boat for sure.

Zane71464 · 04-09-2012, 01:19 AM

..same boat nothing Jim!!!
He'll "try" to change the whole constitution and then some. IMHO, he gets back in,
WE ARE DONE til we've had enough. Only bad things to come IMO.

dwdw · 04-09-2012, 07:22 PM

I agree if O"bummer gets enough votes to remain were "SOL". Think they will ban black powder also if they push hard?
dwdw

Jim K · 04-09-2012, 07:43 PM

Number one on the agenda is a new "assault weapons ban" to include all semi-auto rifles. I wonder how much the Mexicans are paying our fearless leaders for that one? Or is that a question we aren't allowed to ask?

Jim

03-30-2012, 10:03 PM	#2
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,367	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Once in Chicago, always in Chicago. The Machine is alive and well, all the way to the top.

03-30-2012, 10:19 PM	#3
American Leader Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Iowa Contributor Posts: 1,630	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Yes, The Communist State Of Illinois!

03-31-2012, 11:10 AM	#5
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,254	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Late today, a federal district court in Illinois wrongly ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect a right to carry firearms for self-protection outside the home. I wonder who's constitution he was reading? Probably the one he wrote! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-31-2012, 11:44 AM	#6
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,068	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home If bozo gets another term and appoints more left wing lunatics to the supreme court, we wont be carrying anywhere. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

03-31-2012, 11:52 AM	#7
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,254	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Not only will you not be carring, but you probably won't even be able to own a firearm! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

03-30-2012, 09:39 PM	#1
22WRF Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pea Ridge, FL Contributor Posts: 4,251	Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home NRA Will Appeal Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Posted on March 30, 2012 Print Email Share Fairfax, Va. – Late today, a federal district court in Illinois wrongly ruled that the Second Amendment does not protect a right to carry firearms for self-protection outside the home. The NRA funded this challenge to Illinois’ ban on citizens’ ability to carry firearms legally outside their homes and businesses for self-defense, and will also be supporting an immediate appeal to the Seventh Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals—and to the Supreme Court if necessary. The decision in the case of Shepard v. Madigan misreads the Supreme Court’s Second Amendment decisions and will continue to deprive law-abiding Illinoisans of the right to protect themselves effectively against crime on the streets. It also conflicts with a growing body of case law elsewhere in the country, where courts have increasingly recognized that the right to bear arms for self-defense doesn’t end at Americans’ front doors. “The NRA’s legal efforts will not end until the right to carry firearms for self-defense is fully recognized throughout our land,” said Chris W. Cox, executive director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action. -->

03-31-2012, 12:13 AM	#4
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,367	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home And yet, two federal judges decided for the 2A. Both in Mass, IIRC. I see a crisis in law coming. Again.

03-31-2012, 12:54 PM	#8
Iron Eagle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Louisiana Posts: 655	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home I really dout that Obummer will get reelected. Too much mess.

03-31-2012, 03:09 PM	#9
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,367	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Remember the Black Panther "Poll Watchers" that intimidated voters in 2008, and were never prosecuted? They will be out in force, anywhere the Machine can't vote the graveyards.

03-31-2012, 04:10 PM	#10
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,276	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home What a surprise. This is 100% chicago. To many war zones down there to arm the public. People go to jail there for any form of self defense. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

04-01-2012, 05:47 PM	#11
Marlin T Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,857	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home I was hoping that the NRA was working jointly with the SAF but they both filed in different districts. The NRA filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Illinois while the SAF suit was filed in the Centeral District of Illinois. This could be good news too I guess, but the NRA has a track record. __________________ "But the simple truth--born of experience--is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people." Judge Alex Kozinski - United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government. - Thomas Paine Did you read todays GOOD shooting? >>>KEEPANDBEARARMS.COM <<<

04-05-2012, 01:54 PM	#14
whirley V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Contributor Posts: 457	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Looking at his voting record while in the Illinois State Legislature, we won't have anything except a good lock to defend ourselves or our families, not even the pirchforks he often refers to.

04-08-2012, 06:38 PM	#15
mintaka V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 54	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Here's something to think about...Illinois is #13 in homocides...5.5 homocides per 100,000 pop.....that's with the strictest laws imaginable... Florida now in daily headlines is #15 in homocides with 5.2 per 100,000k.... Which means there are about 35 states with lower homocide rates than Illinois... By the way Loisianna is worst at 11.2 per 100,000 And Vt. Is #49 with 1.1 per 100k with right to carry concealed with no permit FBI figures. Last edited by mintaka; 04-08-2012 at 06:41 PM..

04-08-2012, 09:41 PM	#16
76Highboy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Meridian, Idaho Contributor Posts: 6,955	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home If Obummer makes it back in we will all be in the same boat for sure.

04-09-2012, 01:19 AM	#17
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,358	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home ..same boat nothing Jim!!! He'll "try" to change the whole constitution and then some. IMHO, he gets back in, WE ARE DONE til we've had enough. Only bad things to come IMO. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

04-09-2012, 07:22 PM	#18
dwdw Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 15	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home I agree if O"bummer gets enough votes to remain were "SOL". Think they will ban black powder also if they push hard? dwdw

04-09-2012, 07:43 PM	#19
Jim K Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,408	Re: Decision Denying Right to Carry Outside the Home Number one on the agenda is a new "assault weapons ban" to include all semi-auto rifles. I wonder how much the Mexicans are paying our fearless leaders for that one? Or is that a question we aren't allowed to ask? Jim