extraction problem - The Firearms Forum

gpostal · 11-09-2003, 06:15 PM

ok ,i took my new old .45 out today and i had a extraction problem ,every few rounds it would leave the spent round in the pipe , ,the extracter does look a bit rounded off ,not sharp like most i have seen , BUT not knowing 1911's like i would like to ,i am not for sure that was 100% the problem , the recoil spring is very stiff , i am not sue if i was getting a proper lock up , i used 165 grain hydra-shocks ,and winchester 185fmj's , both happened about every 5th round , also when it occasionally chucked a fired case up and right onto my arm in the crease of my elbow

i would guess the recoil spring is over 18 pounds , but the random ejection , makes me lean toward extractor

any ideals

gpostal · 11-09-2003, 08:59 PM

further working the slide also feels a little "gritty" ,it's clean as whistle ,but feels this way when pulled al the way back ,and worked back and forth

CountryGunsmith · 11-09-2003, 10:37 PM

You could try adjusting the tension on the extractor. Shooter45 had an excellent thread on this not long ago in the 1911 forum. Or, you could just install a Wilson BulletProof extractor.

gpostal · 11-10-2003, 04:29 PM

i couldn't find the thread

comparing it to a good 1911 , i dont think there is enough meat in the extractor , i also think the frame and slide are a bit to tight ,this is why i get the gritty feel , i am going to polish the insides of both and replace the extractor

accuracy was fine with it ,even though i didn't get it on paper yet i hit the old trusty beer cans at 30 yrds with no problem

Shooter45 · 11-10-2003, 04:45 PM

GP, check the 1911 Forum.

Marlin made a post, " I Need Help Badly".

The info you need is in there.

gpostal · 11-10-2003, 09:03 PM

thanks alot shooter ,i finally got the fireingpin stop out ,it was way to tight , i filed it down a bit it fits back tight but not as tight as it was ,took me a hour to coax it out

now about the extractor , it looks apears to look as if it were cast not solid steel {apears} , might be just coated ,but it has a line down it like as if it were cast , anyway i think i will just replace it ,theres not to much meat left in the hook

VIPERGTSR01 · 11-11-2003, 08:12 PM

ive heard smearing your ammo with gun oil can help some extraction problems like that

gpostal · 11-11-2003, 08:35 PM

as i pulled out a snapper cap it would fall a bit loose

but now i just did what shooter suggested ,and it is very tight now ,its grabs them and hangs on to them real good until it hits the extractor , i guess i wont really know until i shoot it again
although i still would like to replace it

gpostal · 11-18-2003, 05:41 PM

i found a local wilson master dealer ,and gots me a new bullet proof extractor ,thats some hardend steel

it seems to fit as suggested ,i also picked me up a wilson-rodgers 7 rnd mag ,they are nice ,you can really tell the difference

man it is so hard not to go in the basement and rap off a few rounds, i have a safe and unusual place to do it ,its just the noise

Shooter45 · 11-18-2003, 05:59 PM

Postal,

You will like the Wilson Mags. Best on the market.

Second best, Metalform mags.

Your extractor problem should be solved.

Keep us posted.

FN_Project90 · 11-19-2003, 12:58 AM

could be GAPs hehe

4 eyed six shooter · 11-23-2003, 07:49 PM

You don't want to adjust that extractor too tight. It should just hold a loaded cartridge , without letting it fall free. If it is too tight you might start having failure to feed problems as the cartridge can have a hard time slipping into the hook. Also, a light radius on the bottom of the hook where the cartridge slips in helps. Like I said, light radius. Do not overdo.
John K

11-09-2003, 06:15 PM	#1
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	extraction problem ok ,i took my new old .45 out today and i had a extraction problem ,every few rounds it would leave the spent round in the pipe , ,the extracter does look a bit rounded off ,not sharp like most i have seen , BUT not knowing 1911's like i would like to ,i am not for sure that was 100% the problem , the recoil spring is very stiff , i am not sue if i was getting a proper lock up , i used 165 grain hydra-shocks ,and winchester 185fmj's , both happened about every 5th round , also when it occasionally chucked a fired case up and right onto my arm in the crease of my elbow i would guess the recoil spring is over 18 pounds , but the random ejection , makes me lean toward extractor any ideals -->

11-09-2003, 10:37 PM	#3
CountryGunsmith Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Deep Piney Woods of East Texas Posts: 5,116	You could try adjusting the tension on the extractor. Shooter45 had an excellent thread on this not long ago in the 1911 forum. Or, you could just install a Wilson BulletProof extractor. __________________ The autonomic nervous system provides for involuntary muscle function - the work of breathing, digestion, and so forth. On some folks, that's a pure waste of ingenuity.

11-19-2003, 12:58 AM	#11
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	could be GAPs hehe __________________ Things n' Stuff

11-23-2003, 07:49 PM	#12
4 eyed six shooter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Teton Mountains, Idaho Posts: 91	You don't want to adjust that extractor too tight. It should just hold a loaded cartridge , without letting it fall free. If it is too tight you might start having failure to feed problems as the cartridge can have a hard time slipping into the hook. Also, a light radius on the bottom of the hook where the cartridge slips in helps. Like I said, light radius. Do not overdo. John K __________________ www.savagegunsmithing.com Anyone worth shooting is worth shooting more than once! Stop crime, shoot back! EARTH FIRST! We'll hunt the rest of the planets later

11-09-2003, 08:59 PM	#2
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	further working the slide also feels a little "gritty" ,it's clean as whistle ,but feels this way when pulled al the way back ,and worked back and forth

11-10-2003, 04:29 PM	#4
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	i couldn't find the thread comparing it to a good 1911 , i dont think there is enough meat in the extractor , i also think the frame and slide are a bit to tight ,this is why i get the gritty feel , i am going to polish the insides of both and replace the extractor accuracy was fine with it ,even though i didn't get it on paper yet i hit the old trusty beer cans at 30 yrds with no problem

11-10-2003, 04:45 PM	#5
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,749	GP, check the 1911 Forum. Marlin made a post, " I Need Help Badly". The info you need is in there.

11-10-2003, 09:03 PM	#6
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	thanks alot shooter ,i finally got the fireingpin stop out ,it was way to tight , i filed it down a bit it fits back tight but not as tight as it was ,took me a hour to coax it out now about the extractor , it looks apears to look as if it were cast not solid steel {apears} , might be just coated ,but it has a line down it like as if it were cast , anyway i think i will just replace it ,theres not to much meat left in the hook

11-11-2003, 08:12 PM	#7
VIPERGTSR01 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Australia Posts: 65	ive heard smearing your ammo with gun oil can help some extraction problems like that

11-11-2003, 08:35 PM	#8
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	as i pulled out a snapper cap it would fall a bit loose but now i just did what shooter suggested ,and it is very tight now ,its grabs them and hangs on to them real good until it hits the extractor , i guess i wont really know until i shoot it again although i still would like to replace it

11-18-2003, 05:41 PM	#9
gpostal Former Guest Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,552	i found a local wilson master dealer ,and gots me a new bullet proof extractor ,thats some hardend steel it seems to fit as suggested ,i also picked me up a wilson-rodgers 7 rnd mag ,they are nice ,you can really tell the difference man it is so hard not to go in the basement and rap off a few rounds, i have a safe and unusual place to do it ,its just the noise

11-18-2003, 05:59 PM	#10
Shooter45 Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Contributor Posts: 8,749	Postal, You will like the Wilson Mags. Best on the market. Second best, Metalform mags. Your extractor problem should be solved. Keep us posted.