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Old 04-11-2012, 05:07 PM   #1
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Default Animal transporter nationwide..Black Powder pistol carry question

I travel all over the country transporting dogs to and from clients and have had my share of strange meetings..I need to know if I can carry a loaded Blackpowder pistol that is in a holster under my car seat while traveling..???

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Old 04-11-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Laws vary by state. I don't think anyone can give you a blanket yes or no statement. Many states consider that a concealed firearm and it is a no no that will have you in the federal prison system if crossed state lines.

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Old 04-11-2012, 05:28 PM   #3
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Do you have a CCW? If not, go get one.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:34 PM   #4
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Default Re: Animal transporter nationwide..Black Powder pistol carry question

are you guys reading all of marlok1's original post? he's asking about a Black Powder pistol, as in not a modern firearm.

if I remember correctly the law says that a weapon or replica of a weapon made or designed before a certain year is not considered a firearm, so theoretically you could conceal carry, say, an 1851 Navy .36 revolver.

but don't take my word for it.
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Jerryboy, I don't know about the entire country, but this if Florida law.

A black powder pistol is NOT a firearm.

BUT

Anything that you use AS A WEAPON is a weapon.

So, if I have a screwdriver in my pocket. Or a crescent wrench. Or a hammer. You know - a "tool". If I were to go up to someone and stab them with the screwdriver, or hit them with the wrench, or rob the store using the hammer to threaten the clerk, along with everything else I would be charged with carrying a concealed weapon.

Therefore, if I put a loaded Colt Navy cap-n-ball revolver in a shoulder holster under my coat, that's not a "concealed weapon", because it's not a gun. But if I use it to defend myself, then it becomes a weapon, and I become guilty of carrying a concealed weapon.

Ain't the law interesting?
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Old 04-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #6
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Generally speaking, in most states it will make no diference whether a loaded handgun, carried for self-defense, is Black Powder percussion (or even flintlock) or a modern cartridge firearm. It will usually be considered a weapon, and a concealed weapon in some states if carried loaded in a motor vehicle.
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Jerryboy, I don't know about the entire country, but this if Florida law.

A black powder pistol is NOT a firearm.

BUT

Anything that you use AS A WEAPON is a weapon.

So, if I have a screwdriver in my pocket. Or a crescent wrench. Or a hammer. You know - a "tool". If I were to go up to someone and stab them with the screwdriver, or hit them with the wrench, or rob the store using the hammer to threaten the clerk, along with everything else I would be charged with carrying a concealed weapon.

Therefore, if I put a loaded Colt Navy cap-n-ball revolver in a shoulder holster under my coat, that's not a "concealed weapon", because it's not a gun. But if I use it to defend myself, then it becomes a weapon, and I become guilty of carrying a concealed weapon.

Ain't the law interesting?
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:16 AM   #8
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In New York, as long as it's not loaded(not much use then, is it), and you don't have either powder or ball for it, it's not going to be a problem as long as it's packed away. So why bother? All bets are off in Bloomberg county however.
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I travel all over the country transporting dogs to and from clients and have had my share of strange meetings..I need to know if I can carry a loaded Blackpowder pistol that is in a holster under my car seat while traveling..???
Welcome to the forum! I suggest that you talk to a local professional. Not an LEO, but to someone that teaches hand guns for SD. I don't think that just because it's a BP firearm will make a difference, but what do I know? Ask someone who is knowledgeable about fire arm laws on a national level, I would suggest an attorney as a possible source.
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