If there was any doubt about the depravity we face...

[Appliancedude]

Originally Posted by raven818

Personally, I wish jack lived in the neighborhood. He'd probably have to run me off every night.

Ditto that.

[Appliancedude]

Originally Posted by jack404

build a army to fight back maybe , but running folks off ??

Nah Jack we'd be at the dinning room table wanting you to teach and preach. Eventually you'd kick us out. GO AWAY I NEED SLEEP

[Python]

Originally Posted by Appliancedude

My question is simply this. How long is the final days going to last? Another month? Another year? Another 5 years. The bible says no one will know. I believe we have just started. I believe we will see a lifetime of the final days. Unless you can give me the day, I will stand and fight against them.

First, who is it that you will stand and fight against? As for the "final days" Mark 13:30 is your guide. Here Jesus says.."I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all of these things have happened". Jesus is telling us that the re-birth of Israel (1948) will mark the beginning of the "last generation". God tells us that a mans years (generation) will be "three score & ten" (70 years). We are not given an exact day or year, only the season, same with the Rapture. Add 70 years to 1948 and you get 2018-2019 depending on the difference of calendars. Subtract 7 years of the Tribulation period and you get 2011-2012.

Considering that we are already 64 years into this "last generation", we are living in the "final days" of the last days of the "last generation". The time of the Rapture is a mystery, however, I firmly believe in a pre-Trib Rapture. The beginning of the 7 year Tribulation period is not a mystery. The Tribulation will begin with the signing of a treaty to control Jerusalem. Be aware that the U.S. & the U.N. have demanded that Israel & the Palestinians negotiate such a treaty by December of 2012, or be forced to accept a treaty dictated by the U.N. to secure a peace.

[gvw3]

I don't know what to say here. This has got me thinking.

[jack404]

Originally Posted by Python

First, who is it that you will stand and fight against?

those trying to kill me for a start

those trying to destroy our right and yours, to worship as you wish ..

those who tell me i must shut up , that i am not allowed free speech as it upsets a group that has vowed and issued written commands and published these that i must be killed ...

but i forgot

THAT DONT MATTER TO YOU

your ok so nothing is wrong

but thats ok as i'm so stupid i'll keep protecting my family and why i have had to uproot them all and bring them local here where i can defend them as there are so many folks out there who state we should just ignore it all and let the islamic do what they want ( which to remind you is to kill me and my family and anyone else who says they object to being forced to submit to Sharia law )

i'll never make a good dhimmi

even if i do get a great education on how to be one from sooooo many places ...

i guess i'm just stupid ..


next i'll be told i started it all by joining the army here like i have been told so many times as thats what started all this

i was in the news paper for getting a decoration for fighting the mujahadin from indonesia and the pic was taken outside where i was living

the attacks started two days later

i'll then be told "those who choose to live by the sword, die by the sword" and "its Gods will" and "you started it" , ..

it aint been God's will yet and i doubt it ever will be .. and i still train to make sure ..

but no matter what happens it'll always be below some folks who are so spiritually superior that the rest

DONT MATTER

only their superior doctrine and beliefs matter , not people, not souls , only the doctrine

get with the program or your stupid

..

i'll stay dumb thanks ..

[1 Eyed Jack]

Originally Posted by Python

First, who is it that you will stand and fight against? As for the "final days" Mark 13:30 is your guide. Here Jesus says.."I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all of these things have happened". Jesus is telling us that the re-birth of Israel (1948) will mark the beginning of the "last generation". God tells us that a mans years (generation) will be "three score & ten" (70 years). We are not given an exact day or year, only the season, same with the Rapture. Add 70 years to 1948 and you get 2018-2019 depending on the difference of calendars. Subtract 7 years of the Tribulation period and you get 2011-2012.

Considering that we are already 64 years into this "last generation", we are living in the "final days" of the last days of the "last generation". The time of the Rapture is a mystery, however, I firmly believe in a pre-Trib Rapture. The beginning of the 7 year Tribulation period is not a mystery. The Tribulation will begin with the signing of a treaty to control Jerusalem. Be aware that the U.S. & the U.N. have demanded that Israel & the Palestinians negotiate such a treaty by December of 2012, or be forced to accept a treaty dictated by the U.N. to secure a peace.

Oh Wise Sage......I am humbled just to be on the same internet forum with you, seriously though, you are really pushing the Troll envelope here, are you not?
I/We are probably just misunderstanding you, there is no way you are as arrogant in real life as you come across here, do you think you can really interpret the bible like that? It sounds like you think you can.

[Appliancedude]

Originally Posted by Python

First, who is it that you will stand and fight against? As for the "final days" Mark 13:30 is your guide. Here Jesus says.."I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all of these things have happened". Jesus is telling us that the re-birth of Israel (1948) will mark the beginning of the "last generation". God tells us that a mans years (generation) will be "three score & ten" (70 years). We are not given an exact day or year, only the season, same with the Rapture. Add 70 years to 1948 and you get 2018-2019 depending on the difference of calendars. Subtract 7 years of the Tribulation period and you get 2011-2012.

Considering that we are already 64 years into this "last generation", we are living in the "final days" of the last days of the "last generation". The time of the Rapture is a mystery, however, I firmly believe in a pre-Trib Rapture. The beginning of the 7 year Tribulation period is not a mystery. The Tribulation will begin with the signing of a treaty to control Jerusalem. Be aware that the U.S. & the U.N. have demanded that Israel & the Palestinians negotiate such a treaty by December of 2012, or be forced to accept a treaty dictated by the U.N. to secure a peace.

The UN had 16 resolutions against Iraq to disarm and never forced their hand. Come Jan we will have a new Pres. The UN bluffs, thats what they do. Thats why their worthless

As for me I will fight against anyone who threatens my life or my way of life. Even if that means my own government. I will verbally fight against Islamist extremists until my government collapses. Once America falls and our laws are null, I will take up arms. If the rapture happens first so be it, it will save me some work. If it doesn't then well...........

You know, when I was 15 the rapture was supposed to happen, and I remember being so mad I was not gonna get my drivers license. That was 20 years ago. Come Jan 2013 what will you say then.

Jesus said However, no one knows the day or the hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows. (NLT, Matthew 24:36)

By the way, this is yet another scripture in which Jesus differentiates himself from God.

[jack404]

like all these type they leave out the bits that dont fit so it suits their view ..

theres a lot thats gotta happen before any of that starts , personally i live for today praying it will be tomorrow but not knowing , or really caring actually , i've to much to do and learn NOW for tomorrow ..

theres veterans who do not have adequate or any housing

theres veterans who through inaction or inability who are suffering , not getting medical help , not getting enough to eat .. and the same can be said of all society

giving up on everything in the world we need to deal with in our lives is not just wrong , its suicidal

no man knows the hour or the day , i'm happy with that .. but i'm forever badgered by those who do know ( they come up with , oh i dont know the hour or exact day but it'll be between one of these 2 for sure or similar )

and always i'm either not a good Christian or stupid ( or both) if i dont agree 100%

or i'm the wrong "brand" and got it wrong there , just sick and tired of being wrong by such notables

google peter slipper

he's a former anglican preist who went into politics here

look what sort of Christian he has become

but he threatened to have me tossed out of the anglican Church ( cept the arch diocese said no )

why ?

I'm Militia Dei , a member of a charity who's members are all invited veterans and we raise funds for projects and we would not give money for his projects ..

look if Python wants things his way , fine , i aint opposed , i just hate being told i'm stupid or not a christian if i dont agree ..

and i dont like being told i dont have anything to worry about buy people who have no idea what they are talking about ..

try having a bomb pulled off you car Python ( 6 sticks of 60/40 power gel if i remember .. rigged to the reverse light sender of the gearbox , i start it up , stick it in reverse to back out ... boom , but we caught the guy on the security tape .. )

it will change how you think i bet ..

[Dan01]

I have two to four years left in my life......I know that many of you will hate me for saying this, but I can't do anything to save the world......I am just going to try to get as much quality living as I can with the time I have left.......I also don't have much to loose, so it doesn't make much sense for anyone to mess with me and expect mercy.

Dan

[Double D]

Jack, I am so sick of the elitist typing his time frames and his superior knowledge, I could puke. I tried blocking him, but as a mod you are not suppose to block people. It does really piss me off to see your faith questioned after the life you have been thru and you still publicly profess christ as your savior. It takes alot of flippin nerve to sit in your high horse, fully protected living room and claim nothing is wrong or you are fully protected. It would only take one day of following in your shoes to cause him to crumble and fold. It is the hypocrite on his high horse with his elite attitude that causes many men to look elsewhere when they are searching to fill the empty void in their life. I cant imagine what its like to know more than Jesus himself.

[jack404]

s'ok Dan , this is online nothing ..

cut's a bit deeper when they use steel ..

or you read posts online on how to find my kids and grand kids ..

rewards posted for your head on islamist web sites , though the mods there did take it down when called by the cops ...

but look at those who have lost big here

30 + butchers killed or injured and put out of business cause they sold pork

entire staff at abotoirs replaced due to threats about non muslim where halal meat is geberated at the same plant ( not the same line) ..

small independant grocers threatened to not sell alcohol or they'll be firebombed and some warned over tobacco ..

posters going up in streets declaring "this is a sharia enforced zone " and folks getting stabbed if they are walking home from the pub that way ..

take one to court and they attack anyone who is a witness against them in front of the court . ..

we dont have witness protection any more , it was a death sentence ...

but theres nothing to fear i hear ..

so seriously Python

can you explain why i've been stabbed a few times

shot at

jumped a few times

had offers of rewards for info about where my grand kids are schooled and other info about my family

see these are documented real events ,

if they are not to be feared

wanna swap places ?

all i have here is yours ...

just dont attend any mediatory sessions , been jumped at both of them so far , in front of the cops and everyone , they dont care , theres a fatwa that must be obeyed .. and your reasoning and logic means nothing to that ...

[Appliancedude]

Jack your really depressing me. All my life I've wanted to visit Australia. I don't think I want to anymore. I used to say it was on my bucket list. I think its gonna get scratched off

[jack404]

Appliancedude , its a ghetto type thing here , if your not near it , you wont see it ..

a few burqa's in the city occasionally , where i am on the south coast not many at all

but in those area's , bankstown lakemba where i used to live when i first moved to this screwed up anti gun state .. i lived near there years ago when based at Holsworthy barracks , and where the dramas for me first started ..

outside them area's

its like anywhere , normal

but now we have 5 ghetto's in NSW 3 in VIC 2 in Brisbane and smaller ones in both adelaide and perth kicking in

its 2% of the population , but 98% of the lamb sold is halal

look in your own pantry for the halal symbol and realise part of your purchase went to help islam and jihad ..

like most places all things get dictated their way and we dont get a say ..

99% of the place is ok .. and its real easy to know when your getting close to a ghetto too

just keep ya eye open for the sharia labels .. bright yellow with the list of banned stuff

here's one from the local media ( national wont show this ...)

[Appliancedude]

Jack I admit to being ignorant. And I've only been back on this forum for about a month. And see what I can stir up in a month. You probably shared this before, but WHAT am I looking for in my pantry? You can bet your ass we wont buy it again.

[Double D]

Look for the halal approved label on your meat or anything. They supposedly are approving certain foods to fit their religion but these foods are dangerous to eat and should be avoided at any cost. Jack had a video on this subject and I hope he will bring it back up.

[Marlin T]

[raven818]

Businesses should be careful about getting their food halal certified. When going through this certification process, they have to submit to Moslem authorities. When people submit to any human authority, they give them open themselves up to the spiritual forces, behind that authority. Therefore, businesses getting their products halal certified, are opening themselves up to the spiritual forces behind Islam.

If the managers of the business are Christians, they might have sufficient protection in place to keep themselves safe from any spiritual attack, but they would need to be very careful. If they have any spiritual vulnerabilities in those areas, they could come under serious attack, and it could harm the business.

The Christian manager would also need to think carefully about why the are obtaining Halal certification. If they were doing it to provide food to people who need it, that would be okay. However, if they were getting certification just go get more sales, this might be an unwise compromise.

Good Read here..more of above:
http://tinyurl.com/8yos252

[armoredman]

is that scribble above the symbol I would look for? What foods would it be on?

I gather I shouldn't look for it on my pork? Just put away some nice pork chops.

[jack404]

just a few




and you can double check here

http://www.ifanca.org/product/products/catalog

but go to your pantry and look for the halal logo on things , that item had a couple cents from your purchase sent to aid islam and caliphate

[Appliancedude]

I'm proud to say my pantry is Halal free. I spent some time on the web site and started to get bummed about campbells but according to the site its only the cans sold in Canada. I'm still gonna try not to buy from them anymore though

[armoredman]

Just checked all my Campbell products, nothing carries any of those marks. Also looked at my Safeway, (local supermarket), brands, nada.

[RunningOnMT]

So why Halal? Why can't the ragheads just eat kosher?

[armoredman]

Must...hold...back...

BTW, didn't mean to start such a storm with this thread.

[Dan01]

Aren't halal and kosher about the same???

[jack404]

One gives thanks to God for the norishment , the other thanks god and calls for global caliphate in the name of allah

caliphate is the total control of all people under sharia law , run by a caliph ..

and kaffirs ( non muslims) are slaves and poll taxed ( jizya) or executed ..

bit of a difference

1 lot says thanks God , the other say give us the world ..

not too different .. errrr