Gay unions a ‘risk to kids', say doctors

[jack404]

shall we restep all of history ?/

slavery while the world was still sorting itself out via struggle and violence a imperial power in the east provided a way to get cheap labour slaves , slavery had been dropped by the 3rd centuryt due to the influence of early christians but as the branches of the faith grew the rules and tennants became weaker

now can i ask you do you know who was the first man in the USA to own slaves ??

i do , and he was a black man ,

oh and did you know that some of his slaves where white ??

indentured slavery or selling yourself on contract is the Christian side of slavery , but its volentary

no like islamic slavery which told folks blacks did not matter as they where lesser being ( raisin heads according to mohhomed )

it was islam that brought slavery to the west again and it was the west who tore that apart

some more history for you

when your nation was first founded what was the nations biggest expense ??

paying ransom for citizens who had been kidnapped and sold into slavery by islam , and thats why you got a navy and invented the USMC

and then went to triploi to make war against the slavers ( the islamic caliphate of tripoli )

facts friend ,

[jack404]

no not just Christian but any of the Abrahamic faiths can be married

in Buddism its married too as you ask buddah to bless you , in shintoism you ask the spirits ofg your ancestors and the earth and air spirits to bless you and to help you in your life together

all these things acknowledge a higher power , gay marriages only recognise that one of the partners can get benefits off the other ...

you want to call a Godless union a marriage , ok , how did ity work for you ? not too good i see , sorry , maybe with some time studying the Word of God and sorting your life that way , it may have gone better , but the world is tempting in many ways so folks toss ourt all that stuff like understanding and forgiveness and demand instant divorce and massive payments to lawyers who work against God's wishes for their personal profit

ever seen the simpsons show where lional hutz imagines a world without lawyers and shudders in horor??

too true , too true eh

[jack404]

by the way this is a gun forum

do you own a gun ??

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by M1AG30

OOPs now you did it.... so its only insulting to Christians? does that mean that one has to be a Christian to be married.... oh **** better tell my wife and the lawyer we were never really married so i can stop paying spousal support. BTW when you say "your folks" what do you mean i am straight and a supporter of freedom not any particular people..... and the specifics of the last 1200 years are as dictated by religion... who BTW also approved of slavery... but Oh my we as a people dicided that that was wrong so we stopped it.... but i am sure you will have some other justification as to why that was ok ... or start spouting about maybe marrying a car to a truck or some other such idiocy.... and yes SOMEChristians are a pain thrusting their beliefs on the world as if only they are correct in them and no one elses count..... it is a real pain and not just about this topic either.... more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other cause in history!!!!! What a nut job talking about screwing wood and marying whales? bye bye ... think im done with you now.....

Dude ya need to breathe and do some research before ya start attacking other members here.

Yes, SOME (self appointed) Christians are a pain in the butt. The 'Wasteboro' nut jobs come to mind. They like ta picket our fallen soldiers funerals, claiming their deaths were caused by God because gay people exist. I will guarantee you that NO one here would support their position. Not ONE SINGLE MEMBER.

Have ya ever cleared a mine field on yer OWN time? In a foreign country because you were compelled to do so? In a time of peace? Because God put in in yer heart that it was the right thing to do?

I have my own issues with gays, and it doesn't stem from the fact that they are gay. It comes from their self righteous behaviour. The fact that 'they' should have more rights than others.

I don't CARE if yer gay. It makes no difference to me, and I will support them to a degree. No one here has ever bashed me for my opinion, but I don't resort to name calling like so many that can't argue intelligently.

With that, I bid you adue.

[JLA]

You misspelled adeu Bob..

I have the same issue with Gays and Lesbos. I could care less how they like their sex, its their sex, not mine. I like mine a certain way, so i grant them the same debt of gratitude.

My one and only issue with homos is their self righteousness and sense of self entitlement. And its not even all homos, some are great upstanding people that you wouldnt even know were Gay. I even know a couple, and they too despise the Gay pride paraders.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by jack404

by the way this is a gun forum

do you own a gun ??

I hope not.

Talk is cheap on the internet, and most folks try to at least blend in fer a couple posts before they start regurgitating their hate.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by JLA

You misspelled adeu Bob..

I have the same issue with Gays and Lesbos. I could care less how they like their sex, its their sex, not mine. I like mine a certain way, so i grant them the same debt of gratitude.

My one and only issue with homos is their self righteousness and sense of self entitlement. And its not even all homos, some are great upstanding people that you wouldnt even know were Gay. I even know a couple, and they too despise the Gay pride paraders.

It appears we're both wrong.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/adieu

Love ya man.

Oh wait... Does that make me Gay?

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

by the way this is a gun forum

do you own a gun ??

I own 6....U? And Even GOD himself couldnt save my marriage, and to infer thaty is just another instance of the points i have previously made .....


And Bobitis I simply asked a question and was ATTACKED ....:

Quotes from JACK:

".......i figured we'd get folks like you , googl search for those who have a free thought and open dialogue and you gotta come by and tell us we know nothing like all fag supporters , no free speech unless its says gayness is ok , we'lkl take a look sonny see what real folks are thinking....."


"....but you dont worry about that as only what you want matters and those Christians are just a pain right ??

hey if being gay aint sick enough you could try whale necrophilia ..."

Quote from Bobitis:
"......No one here has ever bashed me for my opinion, but I don't resort to name calling like so many that can't argue intelligently....."

i do hope that is not directed at me ....I called no names and certaily bashed no one!



I attacked NO ONE! I responded to posts.

[JLA]

Damn yer right. Snap..

[jack404]

let him go Bob , statements like

more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other cause in history!!!!!

just show how dumb he is

let's do the numbers

ok so lets count those who died in the inquisition

800,000, between 1200 and 1500 islam same time period 45,000,000 in egypt cyrenia adalushia and persia

lets look at what all you types love , the crusades

the first crusade did not start until 3 centuries after the islamic invasiion when they realised that appeasement did not work , islam would just take and take and take and never stop

in the 3 centuiries wasted by the Chrsitains the islamist enslaved and sold 112 million people with only the balkans not falling under the islamic sword and why islam is fearful of serb's

the actual crusades killed maybe 3 million

and then not for chistian needs but for greed they attack the jews and others along the way , pretty screwed up but that was all these little kings setting themselves up as rulers and stealing what the weaker folks had , that is not Christianity thats socialism

taking from those who work and giving it to those who dont ...


now lets look at the mogal wars ( islamic invasion of india and the indus)

240 million killed there and not a Chrsitain near the place

what say you now sonny ??

oh Hitler a socialist killed 15 million

stalin 20 million another socialist

pol pot another socialist 6 million

socialism and islam are the two greatest killers here

Chrsitianity is way down the list in fact about 18 on the list

the gay king of abusinian killed more along the north coats of africa but seeing he killed all the breeders they became extinct and replaced by the minoans who worshipped woman and men together ( after a gay ruler folks where happy to be normal again) but a volcanoe destroyed all that in the end any way

never read factual history eh? thats ok we are used to that here

just keep spouting your BS and we'll keep on educating you with the facts my friend

its what we do

[JLA]

Its raining outside and I have 21.

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

It appears we're both wrong.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/adieu

Love ya man.

Oh wait... Does that make me Gay?

yes ....yes it does...
Just kidding!

[jack404]

you cast false statements that support a lifestyle choice that many folks are opposed to

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by M1AG30

I own 6....U? And Even GOD himself couldnt save my marriage, and to infer thaty is just another instance of the points i have previously made .....


And Bobitis I simply asked a question and was ATTACKED ....:

Quotes from JACK:

".......i figured we'd get folks like you , googl search for those who have a free thought and open dialogue and you gotta come by and tell us we know nothing like all fag supporters , no free speech unless its says gayness is ok , we'lkl take a look sonny see what real folks are thinking....."


"....but you dont worry about that as only what you want matters and those Christians are just a pain right ??

hey if being gay aint sick enough you could try whale necrophilia ..."

Quote from Bobitis:
"......No one here has ever bashed me for my opinion, but I don't resort to name calling like so many that can't argue intelligently....."

i do hope that is not directed at me ....I called no names and certaily bashed no one!



I attacked NO ONE! I responded to posts.

You got a really short attn span.

Jack:

"look at the word pair , one of each kind when you marri two pieces of wood together your fitting one onto the other , they aint the same , and why is marri two pieces of wood

if they where matched it would be a fit not a marri .. language and words hold facts , your folks keep of trying to rewrite them to suit what you want , not the facts of what they are".

You:

" What a nut job talking about screwing wood".

So Jack makes an assimile to 'marriage' using wood, and you call him a 'nut job'.

Yet you called no one names and 'certainly' didn't bash anyone.

I suggest you grow up. Life is too short for that kinda hatred. It will consume you.

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

you cast false statements that support a lifestyle choice that many folks are opposed to

I stand corrected and offer that I made a mistake should have read.... religion not christianity...

[M1AG30]

you are correct .... and Jack i do apologise....


Bobitis...might you elaborate on the Atack part of your post? did i o did i not? who fired the first shots? or are we going to ignore that part and only post as relates to me being wrong? i am man enough to admit my short comings.... anyone else?????? huh any takers?

[raven818]

I own 6....U? And Even GOD himself couldnt save my marriage, and to infer thaty is just another instance of the points i have previously made .....

Time changes what is acceptable to a society, and I believe the time for change is upon us again.

What is acceptable to a society means absolutely nothing at all. It's what the individual believed/believes before 'society' made the decision that it's easier to go for the flow than to stand behind their own beliefs and morals that count. What society believes has nothing to do with it.

Either one has the gonads to stand up, or not, is all that matters. Personally, bHo being listed on a magazine cover as The First Gay President make me puke.

[jack404]

we all make mistakes , i do daily so no worries but theres a lot you talk about thats not correct

like Christianity killing more than anything

the leading cause of death since the 11th century is islam my friend

it out does cancer and car crashes every year and has done since statistics have been collected , thats also fact

Christianity also protects the weak orphans the ill the homeless and others and drives its members to act in a Christian way towards others , that dont mean we are weak and can be pushed about , but it do mean we should act as Christ wished us to , in respect to each other ,

now you not being Christian may not get this but without the judeo Christian way the past few hundred years your life would not be what it is , there would be no free speech , there would be no rights , you would be subject to the doctrine of the day and have no say

in islam you have no say as islam the word means to serve as a slave with no say no input , a slave of allah is the self admission of every muslim at every prayer

islam does not mean peace that too is a rewrite

but islam does make killing gays a lawfull act and a moral responcability they killed another 9 in Iran yesterday , i dont see gays getting upset about that , but they want to bring the same laws to the USA its called Sharia , why dont you go annoy islam??

Chrsitians wont accept gays , but we will protect them if needed as thats our duty

islams duty is to kill them

i suggest you sort out the real enemy you and yours face and leave us alone

we ( Christians) harmless we just dont want you saying something is holy when it aint

islam however you words here along would make you are target for killing

and my words defending gay folks from violebnce have sen me targeted too

but i'm used to it and its no biggy i'll not leave some poor fag for the jihadists

as i am a Christian , we dont do that

now how does you side stack up ?

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

we all make mistakes , i do daily so no worries but theres a lot you talk about thats not correct

like Christianity killing more than anything

i'll not leave some poor fag for the jihadists

as i am a Christian , we dont do that

now how does you side stack up ?

I corrected my mistake... other than that I dont see where you get off saying "theres alot you talk about thats not correct"

and I know a couple of Marine Recon ....poor fags.... that really dont need to to stick up for them .... its really your holier than thou.... if your not saved your screwed and need our help attitude... who are you to judge anyone? will not the judgement be made by god in the end? if so why trouble yourself with what someone else does on this earth if the final judgement is his?
the only side I am aware of is the side which lets man make his own choices ....

we will all have to agree to dissagree as i grow tired of this enless back and forth you have our views I have mine I dont begrudge you yours.... let me and every other person have theirs......

[jack404]

I dont see where you get off saying "theres alot you talk about thats not correct"

i aint getting off, just correcting a number of wrong, illogical and false statements by you

you wont accept that , ok , cause it'd show you have no real aguement , thats your defence is based on BS and so i dont expect you to admit anything , your kind never do

bye ,

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

i aint getting off, just correcting a number of wrong, illogical and false statements by you

you wont accept that , ok , cause it'd show you have no real aguement , thats your defence is based on BS and so i dont expect you to admit anything , your kind never do

bye ,

[raven818]

ok you just wont let it go

It doesn't seem to be jack that won't let it go. He did say " bye ". Adieu, adios, etc..

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by raven818

It doesn't seem to be jack that won't let it go. He did say " bye ". Adieu, adios, etc..

yeah we are also posting on another string ...i came back in to delete it but not quick enough i guess...lol cant figure out how to delete a post....

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by M1AG30

we will all have to agree to dissagree as i grow tired of this enless back and forth you have our views I have mine I dont begrudge you yours.... let me and every other person have theirs......

Yer tired of the debate. You don't 'begrudge' others, but you are compelled to keep posting in judgement of others opinions.

Weird.

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by Bobitis

Yer tired of the debate. You don't 'begrudge' others, but you are compelled to keep posting in judgement of others opinions.

Weird.

How the F&^K did i post in judgement? i just said we all have our own opinions? WTF is worong with that?

you ever going to answer my other post ? or just ignore it?
I admitted i was wrong ...