Gay unions a ‘risk to kids', say doctors

[jack404]

VICTORIA'S deputy chief psychiatrist - and State Government-appointed equal opportunities champion - has joined forces with doctors lobbying the Federal Government to ban same-sex marriage.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226353845714

[300 H&H]

I wish that in this country we would have a finding like that....

I also hope that the change in our presidents feelings about this cost him the election. I believe the gays are a small minority that represent the "tail wagging the dog". If this were put on voters ballots like it should be they would loose....every time...

I don't get how they think they can steam roll the majority with out a vote, just polls that can be less than accurate.

Lets take a vote right here. Post up your possition on this issue and lets see if the membership is really for or against gay marriage....

Me I'm very much against. I want them off my TV set too!

Regards, Kirk

[jack404]

i'm a no

they want to have a ceremony, party, whatever , fine , i have no say , they'll wake up sooner or later .

but marriage , no thats a man and a women

not two women , not two guys

or further combinations ..

I'll add a marriage is the coming together before God to bless a earthly union between a man and a woman

how is anything of a gay wedding part of that ?

its a open defiance of God, and Christian ways , God is not mentioned and theres one sex short of the twain set the He Created .. , its not a marriage when gays join , Marriage is of God , Commiting two lives as one to Him for the betterment of all

[Donnie D]

No!

Donnie D

[carver]

I vote NO! Hetrosexuals reproduce, homos recruit!

[hogger129]

Originally Posted by jack404

i'm a no

they want to have a ceremony, party, whatever , fine , i have no say , they'll wake up sooner or later .

but marriage , no thats a man and a women

not two women , not two guys

or further combinations ..

I'll add a marriage is the coming together before God to bless a earthly union between a man and a woman

how is anything of a gay wedding part of that ?

its a open defiance of God, and Christian ways , God is not mentioned and theres one sex short of the twain set the He Created .. , its not a marriage when gays join , Marriage is of God , Commiting two lives as one to Him for the betterment of all

im with jack on the issue

[carver]

Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Marriage, in Gods eyes, is the joining of flesh, between a man, and a woman. It makes no difference what man says, or doesn't say.

[Twicepop]

What happens if gay marriage is allowed to happen country wide, will this open the door for other rites that have been taboo also. Will cousins be allowed to marry, what about brother and sister unions, other blood relative weddings, people and animals, people and inanimate objects. Marriage has always been about a man and a woman to bring forth children to benefit society and to keep it from eroding away. Nothing positive in the long run can happen from gay marriage. Don't let my comments make you think that I believe homo-sexuals should be discriminated against, they should recieve equal protection under all laws just as anyone in our society should recieve. There is nothing in the laws that says anyone has a right to be married, it is a recognized and accepted practice, that is allowed to happen for the aforementioned reasons. No one should be granted any special privileges because of whom they choose to sleep with.

those who beat their guns into plowshares, will plow for those who didn't

[Dan01]

"risk to kids".......Look at all the examples where homos abuse children.....They cannot be trusted with children or mentally challenged people......One can only imagine what two homo parents do to "their" children when not in the public eye.

[BradleyCole09]

NO GAY MARRIAGE.

[Bobitis]

Originally Posted by Dan01

"risk to kids".......Look at all the examples where homos abuse children.....They cannot be trusted with children or mentally challenged people......One can only imagine what two homo parents do to "their" children when not in the public eye.

I like ya Dan01, but that's as ignorant a statement as I've ever read.

By your logic:

Look at all the examples of church leaders that abuse children.
They cannot be trusted with children or the mentally challenged.
One can only imagine what they do to their followers when not in the public eye.

Just because someone is gay, does NOT make them a pedophile.
No more than being a preacher makes him/her a pedophile.

Forgive me if I take a time out.

[raven818]

Gays suck.

[76Highboy]

Originally Posted by BradleyCole09

NO GAY MARRIAGE.

NO GAY MARRIAGE.

[gvw3]

NO GAY MARRIAGE.

[Insulation Tim]

Originally Posted by 300 H&H

I wish that in this country we would have a finding like that....

I also hope that the change in our presidents feelings about this cost him the election. I believe the gays are a small minority that represent the "tail wagging the dog". If this were put on voters ballots like it should be they would loose....every time...

I don't get how they think they can steam roll the majority with out a vote, just polls that can be less than accurate.

Lets take a vote right here. Post up your position on this issue and lets see if the membership is really for or against gay marriage....

Me I'm very much against. I want them off my TV set too!

Regards, Kirk

This whole country is being run by small minorities. Enviros, LBGT, AIDS sufferers ( a totally preventable disease), PETA and wackos in general. I personaly don't care if Mike wants to have a relationship with Bill, just don't call it a marriage.

[Deacon_Man]

NO GAY MARRIAGE.

[Caneman]

This issue is so important to the survival of the American culture that founded our country and made it great that there should be a constitutional ammendement making marriage legal only between one man and one woman.

I am in favor of limited federal government, but this is one issue where I see the value of having a federal government step in and make decisions for the good of all and the long term survival of our great country.

[jack404]

i thought your federal government was telling you all to bend over and drop ya dud's , issuing everyone with some vasalene and thats just to announce the new carbon dioxide tax

[M1AG30]

Did any of you follow up on this article or just read the first page of the link?The "evidence" consists of opinion pieces from newspaper articles, opinion pieces from fundamentalist Christian websites like lifesitenews and mercatornet, and a report commissioned by the Australian Christian Lobby. If the Marriage is done by a justice of the peace is it still a marriage? just asking because more than a few posters have cited religious reasoning in their arguments. Or as one poster states "......Marriage has always been about a man and a woman to bring forth children to benefit society ....." which i find to be an incredulous statement. thousands if not millions of couples have married but not had children and never plan to do so...they just want to commit to each other and let others know that level of commitment by their actions. and i would imagine also receive the benefits of being married in the eyes of the law of .... ie insurance, being able to find out info on a patient,death benefits etc..... which goes to some posters comments that the union of a gay couple is ok but just dont call it marriage. I also have to agree that believing a gay person to be a sexual threat to a child simply because of the fact that he or she is gay is absolutely the most ignorant thing I have heard in a very long time..... do some research and you will find it to be completely unfounded. Not all of the freedoms we as a country enjoy today would have been acceptable 50, 75, or even 100 years ago. Time changes what is acceptable to a society, and I believe the time for change is upon us again.

Just a little back ground ....... I am a Father of 2 was married 17 years am heterosexual ... a member of the Armed Forces for the last 18 years and belive and fight for the freedoms that this country has stood for since it's declaration of independance!

[jack404]

i figured we'd get folks like you , googl search for those who have a free thought and open dialogue and you gotta come by and tell us we know nothing like all fag supporters , no free speech unless its says gayness is ok , we'lkl take a look sonny see what real folks are thinking

actually marriage is a holy covenant between a man and a woman who come before god to bless their union or becoming one flesh

please look up the meaning of the word and not in the rewritten fag excuse books , look up the original meaning , its from occatain ( pre french) marri thiage ( t silent)

meaning Joining before, or coming together in front of God

so see God has stated gayness is a sin how do you justify a gay marriage ?

you cant , not by any way but by lying and making up crap

next you'll be telling us gay is natural that all the creatures do it . so why do animals who display homosexual tendencies tossed out of the herd or group in nature? why are some killed outright ??

its a abomination to all living things , its against evolution as you need both male and female to reproduce , and not they say but we have science ..

i'm talking nature and playing God aint nature , yes we can make a lesbian pregnant

we can also mould poo into chocolate molds but that dont make it chocolate

[M1AG30]

Jack404... if you are replying to my post.....WTF are you on about I been a member here since January...once again ... do your research ! And what if I dont belive in God... Since you state marriage is a holy covenant ? I take it you only accept the original meaning ,"...... its from occatain ( pre french) marri thiage ( t silent) ....." So no other persons be it Man and Woman or otherwise are truly married unless under the eyes of God and in conference with religion?
Rather than rant and spew ignorance as to what I will be telling you next you might think about it........free speach is great slanted oppinions stated as fact are not.... oppinion is not evidence......

[jack404]

a Justice of the peace makes a oath of affirmation BEFORE GOD , to carry out that office in a honest and true way

not to rewrite history and scam folks

look you want a civil ceremony non religous , go for it , i'll post pic's of one i attended last year

good mate of mine , good soldier too , just breaks my heart he's a fag but he's my mate first ,

but the ceremony they had was nothing to do with god or religion it was a declaration of love and affection and commitment to each other and i'm happy for the guy in a way , i do wish he'd wake up but he is allowed to make his own way in life providing it dont force his ideals onto other like you and your kind are trying to do to our faith

marriage is a HOLY THING , ever listened to the minister at a wedding

whats holy about a gay wedding besides the post party orgy ??

you can have a civil joining , you can do what you wish but matrimony is a holy thing , and again whats holy about gayness??

its a sin so the exact 180 degree opposite of Holy

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

a Justice of the peace makes a oath of affirmation BEFORE GOD , to carry out that office in a honest and true way

not to rewrite history and scam folks

look you want a civil ceremony non religous , go for it , i'll post pic's of one i attended last year

good mate of mine , good soldier too , just breaks my heart he's a fag but he's my mate first ,

but the ceremony they had was nothing to do with god or religion it was a declaration of love and affection and commitment to each other and i'm happy for the guy in a way , i do wish he'd wake up but he is allowed to make his own way in life providing it dont force his ideals onto other like you and your kind are trying to do to our faith

marriage is a HOLY THING , ever listened to the minister at a wedding

whats holy about a gay wedding besides the post party orgy ??

you can have a civil joining , you can do what you wish but matrimony is a holy thing , and again whats holy about gayness??

its a sin so the exact 180 degree opposite of Holy

just my point not all marriages are Holy heterosexulas dont have a civil joining why is that?..... my first post was mainly focused on the "Evidence" provided by the article .....

[jack404]

look at the word pair , one of each kind

when you marri two pieces of wood together your fitting one onto the other , they aint the same , and why is marri two pieces of wood

if they where matched it would be a fit not a marri .. language and words hold facts , your folks keep of trying to rewrite them to suit what you want , not the facts of what they are

not two the same

no matter how you play it marriage is male and a female not mix and match its been specific for 1200 years and even more specific before that , but the wording has been made softer over the years and i'm sick of folks making things softer its the same as lying

all marriages are Holy my friend its the actions of the couple ( male and female) after that make it so ...

two gays cant be married , they can say they are but the fact is they'll never be married in the eyes of God and in fact insult all Christians by saying so

but you dont worry about that as only what you want matters and those Christians are just a pain right ??

hey if being gay aint sick enough you could try whale necrophilia

then try calling that Holy as well

or say its a marriage thats been consumated

its all the same

just a depravity being spouted as normal when the truth is its anything but normal



had enough fun now ??

run along to your gay supporters and let em know we wont be conned bullied or intimidated into changing the truth for what your shoveling

cheers

[M1AG30]

Originally Posted by jack404

look at the word pair , one of each kind

when you marri two pieces of wood together your fitting one onto the other , they aint the same , and why is marri two pieces of wood

if they where matched it would be a fit not a marri .. language and words hold facts , your folks keep of trying to rewrite them to suit what you want , not the facts of what they are

not two the same

no matter how you play it marriage is male and a female not mix and match its been specific for 1200 years and even more specific before that , but the wording has been made softer over the years and i'm sick of folks making things softer its the same as lying

all marriages are Holy my friend its the actions of the couple ( male and female) after that make it so ...

two gays cant be married , they can say they are but the fact is they'll never be married in the eyes of God and in fact insult all Christians by saying so

but you dont worry about that as only what you want matters and those Christians are just a pain right ??

hey if being gay aint sick enough you could try whale necrophilia

then try calling that Holy as well

or say its a marriage thats been consumated

its all the same

just a depravity being spouted as normal when the truth is its anything but normal



had enough fun now ??

run along to your gay supporters and let em know we wont be conned bullied or intimidated into changing the truth for what your shoveling

cheers

OOPs now you did it.... so its only insulting to Christians? does that mean that one has to be a Christian to be married.... oh **** better tell my wife and the lawyer we were never really married so i can stop paying spousal support. BTW when you say "your folks" what do you mean i am straight and a supporter of freedom not any particular people..... and the specifics of the last 1200 years are as dictated by religion... who BTW also approved of slavery... but Oh my we as a people dicided that that was wrong so we stopped it.... but i am sure you will have some other justification as to why that was ok ... or start spouting about maybe marrying a car to a truck or some other such idiocy.... and yes SOMEChristians are a pain thrusting their beliefs on the world as if only they are correct in them and no one elses count..... it is a real pain and not just about this topic either.... more people have died in the name of Christianity than any other cause in history!!!!! What a nut job talking about screwing wood and marying whales? bye bye ... think im done with you now.....