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Join Date: Mar 2012
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i recently posted about wanting to buy a magazine for a walther model 9. jarret1 aka kristi d jarrett contacted me that she had one in good condition. i paid and now nothing. no delivery, doesnt answer messages.
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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I hope that you have some nexus (relationship) to the U S Mail with this transaction. I have had unfortunate experiences with the kind of problem that you describe.
If you have the nexus, send the seller a notice that if you do not receive a prompt refund of all monies that you paid; you will seek her felony prosecution for Mail Fraud under Title 18 of the United States Code. If she does not comply, contact the U S Postal Inspector Office in your area and file a formal complaint. All mail fraud is a federal felony, regardless of the amount of money involved. Few thieves want to deal with Federal Law Enforcement Agencies. It is for the foregoing reason that I always insist on making or receiving payment by USPS Money Order when dealing with private individuals via the Internet. I prefer to establish a U S Mail nexus when dealing with unknown businesses also. The USPS Money Order establishes the nexus to the US Mail and makes prosecution for felony Mail Fraud possible. Last edited by Hammerslagger; 04-20-2012 at 01:31 PM.. Reason: add word |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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thanks for the information.
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Location: naugatuck,Ct.
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nice
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Quote:
A little effort on your part may save somebody else from getting ripped off.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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i did order the triple k magazine but it doesnt work in the model 9. there is a toe on the floor plate on the triple k magazine which is not on the originals. This toe prevents the magazine from being able to be inserted far enough to catch. i had to return that magazine to triple k.
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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They shipped the wrong mag and should know better. The W9 mag has no toe. They probably shipped a Baby FN (Browning) mag by mistake. Too Bad.
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: South Texas
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how much money was involved joe?
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 16
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$70
the same person has been doing the same thing on a trap shooters forum. you post something you want to buy and she contacts you via pm that she has it. i was foolish. i never have had a problem buying something in a gun forum off of other members before in over 10 years of doing so. I did send yet another message making clear that there would be action taken. she then finally answered so we will see. i will take action, she can take that to the bank. lesson learned. i didnt want any of you to fall for the same scam. sometimes we let what we need or want blind us to our usual level of common sense, especially when that item is not easy to come by. |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Is she in the Chicago area?
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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How did you pay? If you used a card, just file a chargeback with your card company.
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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lubbock texas
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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There is always the possibility that the vendor sent you a mag and it was lost. If that is the case then there is no fraud.
If there is no nexus to the US Mail relative to this transaction, the U S Postal inspection Service cannot get involved. If there is a U S Mail nexus, they are required to get involved, if you complain. The foregoing is not to say that they will want to go after, or aggressively go after, a criminal who is ripping off less than $1K per year, which seems to have been their trigger point the last time that I got involved helping someone with your problem, about 8 years ago, involving a professional Ebay "rip off" artist named Karen in Chicago. However, if you can and do file a complaint; they will have to contact "jarrett 1". If you know of other similar "rip offs" involving this person, mention them in your complaint. Depending on the facts, you might get your money back or put "jarrett 1" out of business. Last edited by Hammerslagger; 04-21-2012 at 06:40 PM.. Reason: add coma |
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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so far only attempted rip offs of others.
there was no magazine mailed. ill let you know how it works out. |
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Advanced Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
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I am not certain and will have to check, but I think that I once made a functional W9 magazine by modifying a aftermarket mag for a FN Baby (Baby Browning in the USA).
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NW Indiana
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did you pay in cash? money orders have receipts and traceable. same with checks, cards, paypal... short of driving by and throwing cash out the window at her, you should be able to prove payment enough to at least file a police report
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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im working on it. i have gathered a lot of information about her, including scams she is currently trying to pull on another firearms related forum.
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*Administrator*
Join Date: Feb 2001
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After combing thru our members list, I'm not finding Jarrett 1 as a TFF member.
Maybe you should make that clear in this post as I really don't like the fact that it makes TFF look bad. ![]() |
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Member
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 16
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on the members list under J, page 14, fourth member from the top. Jarrett1. there is no space between the t and 1. my typo in title.
im not trying to make TFF look bad and i dont feel that way at all. I was just trying to warn the members here since this is where she sent me a PM based on my wanted to buy. It can and does happen on any gun site. Last edited by heyjoe; 05-15-2012 at 07:34 PM.. |
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*Administrator*
Join Date: Feb 2001
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The space makes a difference.
Here's what I have which may or may not help. Email: jarrett_kristi@yahoo.com IP Address: 67.228.174.166 Most of the IP addresses were in the Dallas,Tx area but this one has me confused. 67.228.174.166 IP address location & more: IP address [?]: 67.228.174.166 [Copy][Whois] [Reverse IP] IP country code: US IP address country: United States IP address state: Minnesota IP address city: Minneapolis IP postcode: 55405 IP address latitude: 44.9679 IP address longitude: -93.3032 ISP of this IP [?]: SoftLayer Technologies Organization: Hosting Services Host of this IP: [?]: 67.228.174.166-static.reverse.softlayer.com [Whois] [Trace] Local time in United States: 2012-05-16 06:44 You probably already had this info but maybe we will have a member step forward from the Minneapolis area to help locate this scammer. I don't know if this will help or not. I once had a program that would give names and addresses but lost it a few years ago. I'll ban the scumbag from TFF. |
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*TFF Moderator/Host*
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Florida
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I sure hope you get her. Grrrrrrr
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