UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 05-23-2012, 07:40 PM

The UN security council have just stated to its members that the rouge state of America will comply to the new gun laws it will release at the UNSC meeting July 2-27 in New York. It follows an agreement in 2009 by most of the world's major weapons exporters, including the United States, to seek a treaty that strengthens controls on the trade.

"The UN meeting to agree an Arms Trade Treaty in July will be an acid test for politicians to place rights over self-interest and profit," the Amnesty report said.
"Without a strong treaty, the UN Security Council's guardianship of global peace and security seems doomed to failure; its permanent members wielding an absolute veto on any resolution despite being the world's largest arms suppliers."

The security council also resolved to recommend Istanbul be the 2020 olympics choce to avoid the backlash expected if it was not chosen ,

Fadi Al Awikki the UN Muslim brotherhood spokesperson stated " The age of islam is here and it is here now , we demand equality and that a muslim nation be granted the olympics in 2020 , failure to permit this will be seen world wide as a racist act against Islam and i can assure you the Uma will respond ".

Bobitis · 05-23-2012, 07:47 PM

Right.

armoredman · 05-23-2012, 07:50 PM

Do you have a link, Jack?

jedwil · 05-23-2012, 07:53 PM

That would be a tipping point...........

jedwil · 05-23-2012, 07:59 PM

Muslim Olympics in 2020..............Ha Ha... I probably won't be around but I'd love to see the reaction of the Islamic lovers and sympathizers and PC when they see the women Olympian uniforms and events.

jack404 · 05-23-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by armoredman

Do you have a link, Jack?

just watched it on CNN , UN security council announcement

terryu1 · 05-23-2012, 08:59 PM

That may be the catalyst that will end this shi# forever. There will be some sort of "civil war" and now is as good as any time.

cycloneman · 05-23-2012, 09:03 PM

attack on the guns are gona come hard and heavy now as we get closer to the rejection election. Wolverines

Zhurh · 05-23-2012, 09:12 PM

The UN can't even get the Africans to do as they're told; ya right.

The Americans I know are so far ahead of the Africans, it ain't funny; light years.

jack404 · 05-23-2012, 09:28 PM

you may be scoffing now

but you have way less freedoms now than you had 2 years ago

and this is taking the rest away from you , either keep scoffing or start acting

scoffing got you all a long way when everyone was saying obama would never get elected remember??

he's president now and folks are still scoffing ..

will they scoff when the cops comes to their doors and say hand over your guns or we'll declare you a enemy of the state ?

Zhurh · 05-23-2012, 10:20 PM

With all respect Jack, and I mean it; I heard the same back around 1990 and a little after. Motivated me to move out into the middle of nowheres so there'd be no question about my freedoms. I'm not scoffing either, know big "O" would like to do these things but also know that people would get awful upset if any such actions came to pass. It would lead to his and the dems downfall politically.

Here in ALaska, the state govt already doesn't enforce fed law they see as unconstitutional and that comes from the governor on down. I know we have all kinds of people on govt checks, be it welfare, disability, ssn, or govt pay checks; but many more that can see the forest & the trees and I really believe that's what makes the pendulum swing at election time. Remember when Reagen got elected?

Last year here, we had Fed Park Police try enforcing state law. We don't have any law enforcement in our community, kinda nice actually; half these hicks be in the pokey if we did ya know. They were actually attempting to fine people for not having license plates on the vehicles, licenses on their fishing boats on the Yukon, licenses on their atvs & snowmachines, ect. Nobody likes buying licenses around here. Doing safety checks, looking for life preservers on boats, ect. People ignored them and just kept driving and running their boats up the river. The couple fed park cops started waving guns at people and a few fights ensued. Ended up the Governor got involved and said the feds didn't even have legal rights to do what they were attempting. Uncle Donny Young started running his mouth in D.C. and threatened to defund the park service and the feds realized the error of their ways and the community came together and said enough was enough. The park cops got fired, their supervisors got replaced, and the people that survived are meek as church mice for another 5-10 years until they try it again. It happened like this 20 years back too, and the state police had to give the park super police protection outta Eagle, no joke. Then we had decent Park Rangers for many years, none even bothered me. Then Obama got elected, and the lefties in Park Service got a nut. Obama won't be around forever, same ole politics I have watched fo r many years.

I just don't see the 2nd amendment being over thrown by the UN, not here in ALaska. Boy, any such nonsense would get the birchers off the deep end for sure; let alone the silent majority.

Ya know, I was out with my daughter shooting the 6.8 stag & 338 fed today. We were shooting at wood floating down the Yukon; and zinging them too. Lots of ammo, lots of practice, and Acogs make a quick shot. I'm more worried about improving my shooting skills for hunting season than worrying about the UN's boasting.

Does anybody really believe Americans will give up their guns just cause somebody says it's the law?

Jack, ya need to come over here and kill some caribou & moose nx year. I'm a big road hunter too.

jack404 · 05-23-2012, 10:35 PM

then its your call

w e hear rumbling for 20 years here too

then one day it was all true
hope that dont happen to you there

but if it does , blame yourselves , not obama , we know that his agenda but its you folks who allow it ..

cycloneman · 05-23-2012, 10:53 PM

To lift one at the cost of another, they will defend
To you they talk like friends, but it is only pretend
They are coming across the globe to make you conform within
They have heard your story and it’s time for you to cave in
They don’t realize freedom is your only friend
For that we will fight to the bitter end.
So take your plans, and take your strife
Turn your attention to your own life

If they do come and choose to go on with this I do so welcome it. Why? Simple a new pack of leaders will emerge. I sure do pitty the fools that come this way. Fun times.

terryu1 · 05-24-2012, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

you may be scoffing now

but you have way less freedoms now than you had 2 years ago

and this is taking the rest away from you , either keep scoffing or start acting

scoffing got you all a long way when everyone was saying obama would never get elected remember??

he's president now and folks are still scoffing ..

will they scoff when the cops comes to their doors and say hand over your guns or we'll declare you a enemy of the state ?

You are right Jack. Less and less every year but I think, like I said, there is a "hairpin trigger" on how ticked off people have become and there just needs to be one big event to set off the reaction I feel will come. The atmosphere is certainly ripe for something and I really feel this would not go well.
The United Nations is a joke and we are barely tolerating it being here now. There has been lots of "talk" about UN regulating the USA directly but so far nothing direct.

Guts3d · 05-24-2012, 05:10 AM

Thanks for the info, Jack. I am stocking up on ammo and non-perishable foodstuffs. Just gotta find bottled water at a decent price now...

carver · 05-24-2012, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

you may be scoffing now

but you have way less freedoms now than you had 2 years ago

and this is taking the rest away from you , either keep scoffing or start acting

scoffing got you all a long way when everyone was saying obama would never get elected remember??

he's president now and folks are still scoffing ..

will they scoff when the cops comes to their doors and say hand over your guns or we'll declare you a enemy of the state ?

Dead on Jack! Personally, I think we have already "scoffed" ourselves into a corner! There will be a One World Government! I don't know when, but it is coming!

Old Grump · 05-24-2012, 08:55 AM

Well some people in this country may wear rouge and give up their sovereignty but it ain't the people in my neck of the woods.

We don't call ourselves rogues either, that would be people who are up to no good, like the UN Security Council and the Anti-Gun pansy ass panty wearers who are willing for you to give up your rights so they can sleep on their lilac scented silk sheets knowing they are safe from law abiding gun owners.

graehaven · 05-24-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Guts3d

Thanks for the info, Jack. I am stocking up on ammo and non-perishable foodstuffs. Just gotta find bottled water at a decent price now...

Buy a filter - a gravity fed one, big, so you can filter your own as well. Bottled will only last so long.

Look at Katadyn, or Berkey, or ProPur.

and have a backup too.

graehaven · 05-24-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carver

Dead on Jack! Personally, I think we have already "scoffed" ourselves into a corner! There will be a One World Government! I don't know when, but it is coming!

Jack is Right!

Carver, right on.

It IS coming. We are woefully underprepared. I don't think we truly fathom what the demise of our society really means - when it comes to our families. We are in trouble.

hogger129 · 05-24-2012, 10:08 AM

From my cold, dead hands. I'll be one of the bitter clingers to the very end.

Zhurh · 05-24-2012, 12:10 PM

Jack, I ain't scoffing, I know they have those dreams; just don't see it coming to fruition. I'm in the corner with you all, just don't plan on getting ulcers over those worries. Lived long enough to know the truth and know people where I call home won't comply because they have this deep rooted sense that the 2nd amendment trumps all and even our or any other govt can't take it away; it goes way back in America's psyche. I say, just let em try. The dems have been losing elections over single issue voters for some time and they just don't get it either. Gun owners are a huge voting block and they don't care about international treaties and so on.

We moved from back east for a more independent lifestyle here in Alaska 20 years back. I guarantee Alaska would never comply as would most other states. I'd like to see the dems latch onto this one, be their Waterloo for sure. I foresee sales of guns & supplies being taxed and thus limited; that alone will upset America. I'm sure the UN talks this garbage, they just don't have anyway to back it up. It only works through voluntary compliance or you have tyranny which will lead to upheaval; dems don't even want that.

Boy, I was going nuts buying 556 when it was $179/case in late 80's; heck my grandkids won't run out. Over the last 10 years, we've bought more AR's than Weatherbys and we hunt with them. They ain't gonna starve me out and people around here all reload and are well supplied for several generations. We all do what we can, but not worth going off the deep end over. I too think a spark will be ignited that will end all of this UN gun control talk once and for all. Until then Americans must work within the laws until a revolution is forced upon them; not llike it hasn't ever happened before.

My nephew (the PJ) and another guy on his team are coming up to shoot some bear nx week and they are coming in, man do they eat. Hope to get him on a grizz too, but I see most grizz in the fall for some reason. They will be in Afghan come July, down South this time. We'll show him a good time riding back in on our trails, hunting with AR's slings behind our necks; perfect gun for atvs.

cutter · 05-24-2012, 02:54 PM

Over my dead body!! Not much more left to say!!

FlashBang · 05-24-2012, 03:40 PM

Good luck to anybody trying to takes guns from us Texans!

musclehead · 05-24-2012, 03:45 PM

Fadi Al Awikki the UN Muslim brotherhood spokesperson stated " The age of islam is here and it is here now , we demand equality and that a muslim nation be granted the olympics in 2020 , failure to permit this will be seen world wide as a racist act against Islam and i can assure you the Uma will respond ".

you've pointed out before that Islam is NOT a race!

these guys are playing the race card world wide.

armoredman · 05-24-2012, 04:26 PM

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the rogue state of America

fixed it for ya.
So, we've been demoted from the leader of the free world, to a rogue nation. Condemned by an organization we founded, feed, fuel and host on our own sacred shores. We now have terrorist states peering down from their bloodstained pulpits to shake a finger in our face and scream threats and insults, whilst the apologists tremble and cry?
We created this monster. When you cede authority to an entity, you no longer control that which you have given up. They believe we have handed them the whips and chains to be used on our own bleeding flesh, as we have grown soft, weak, and easily frightened.
Are they right?
I think not. The main reason I think they are confused and misled is they fall prey to the same mistake others not of this country do - the federal government is NOT the United States. Even many here have forgotten the several states originally held the power within, and they are waking up and taking it back. Look at the strides of freedom made in the several states, and I think the Islamofascists and One Worlders are in for a rude shock. We have the 5th Column of the Media running the races for the federal government, which is how we end up with Romney, but the states go their own ways, some like Arizona, Alaska, Wyoming, more freedom and true security, and California, less freedom, less real security. This is the real story, the ones the leftists howl like banshees to suppress, the truths they will commit murder to suppress.
I think the foreign governments that seek to rule us will rue that decision, to one extent or another.

05-23-2012, 07:40 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws The UN security council have just stated to its members that the rouge state of America will comply to the new gun laws it will release at the UNSC meeting July 2-27 in New York. It follows an agreement in 2009 by most of the world's major weapons exporters, including the United States, to seek a treaty that strengthens controls on the trade. "The UN meeting to agree an Arms Trade Treaty in July will be an acid test for politicians to place rights over self-interest and profit," the Amnesty report said. "Without a strong treaty, the UN Security Council's guardianship of global peace and security seems doomed to failure; its permanent members wielding an absolute veto on any resolution despite being the world's largest arms suppliers." The security council also resolved to recommend Istanbul be the 2020 olympics choce to avoid the backlash expected if it was not chosen , Fadi Al Awikki the UN Muslim brotherhood spokesperson stated " The age of islam is here and it is here now , we demand equality and that a muslim nation be granted the olympics in 2020 , failure to permit this will be seen world wide as a racist act against Islam and i can assure you the Uma will respond ". -->

05-23-2012, 07:47 PM	#2
Bobitis Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,612	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Right. Attached Images __________________ ^.^ A point in every direction is the same as having no point at all

05-23-2012, 07:50 PM	#3
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,367	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Do you have a link, Jack?

05-23-2012, 07:53 PM	#4
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,922	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws That would be a tipping point........... __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

05-23-2012, 07:59 PM	#5
jedwil Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Hill Country Contributor Posts: 1,922	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Muslim Olympics in 2020..............Ha Ha... I probably won't be around but I'd love to see the reaction of the Islamic lovers and sympathizers and PC when they see the women Olympian uniforms and events. __________________ "Today, we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." -- John F. Kennedy

05-23-2012, 08:59 PM	#7
terryu1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NE Pennsylvania Contributor Posts: 1,243	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws That may be the catalyst that will end this shi# forever. There will be some sort of "civil war" and now is as good as any time. __________________ ARMED INFIDEL

05-23-2012, 09:03 PM	#8
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,402	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws attack on the guns are gona come hard and heavy now as we get closer to the rejection election. Wolverines __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

05-23-2012, 09:12 PM	#9
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,819	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws The UN can't even get the Africans to do as they're told; ya right. The Americans I know are so far ahead of the Africans, it ain't funny; light years.

05-23-2012, 09:28 PM	#10
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws you may be scoffing now but you have way less freedoms now than you had 2 years ago and this is taking the rest away from you , either keep scoffing or start acting scoffing got you all a long way when everyone was saying obama would never get elected remember?? he's president now and folks are still scoffing .. will they scoff when the cops comes to their doors and say hand over your guns or we'll declare you a enemy of the state ?

05-23-2012, 10:20 PM	#11
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,819	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws With all respect Jack, and I mean it; I heard the same back around 1990 and a little after. Motivated me to move out into the middle of nowheres so there'd be no question about my freedoms. I'm not scoffing either, know big "O" would like to do these things but also know that people would get awful upset if any such actions came to pass. It would lead to his and the dems downfall politically. Here in ALaska, the state govt already doesn't enforce fed law they see as unconstitutional and that comes from the governor on down. I know we have all kinds of people on govt checks, be it welfare, disability, ssn, or govt pay checks; but many more that can see the forest & the trees and I really believe that's what makes the pendulum swing at election time. Remember when Reagen got elected? Last year here, we had Fed Park Police try enforcing state law. We don't have any law enforcement in our community, kinda nice actually; half these hicks be in the pokey if we did ya know. They were actually attempting to fine people for not having license plates on the vehicles, licenses on their fishing boats on the Yukon, licenses on their atvs & snowmachines, ect. Nobody likes buying licenses around here. Doing safety checks, looking for life preservers on boats, ect. People ignored them and just kept driving and running their boats up the river. The couple fed park cops started waving guns at people and a few fights ensued. Ended up the Governor got involved and said the feds didn't even have legal rights to do what they were attempting. Uncle Donny Young started running his mouth in D.C. and threatened to defund the park service and the feds realized the error of their ways and the community came together and said enough was enough. The park cops got fired, their supervisors got replaced, and the people that survived are meek as church mice for another 5-10 years until they try it again. It happened like this 20 years back too, and the state police had to give the park super police protection outta Eagle, no joke. Then we had decent Park Rangers for many years, none even bothered me. Then Obama got elected, and the lefties in Park Service got a nut. Obama won't be around forever, same ole politics I have watched fo r many years. I just don't see the 2nd amendment being over thrown by the UN, not here in ALaska. Boy, any such nonsense would get the birchers off the deep end for sure; let alone the silent majority. Ya know, I was out with my daughter shooting the 6.8 stag & 338 fed today. We were shooting at wood floating down the Yukon; and zinging them too. Lots of ammo, lots of practice, and Acogs make a quick shot. I'm more worried about improving my shooting skills for hunting season than worrying about the UN's boasting. Does anybody really believe Americans will give up their guns just cause somebody says it's the law? Jack, ya need to come over here and kill some caribou & moose nx year. I'm a big road hunter too.

05-23-2012, 10:35 PM	#12
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws then its your call w e hear rumbling for 20 years here too then one day it was all true hope that dont happen to you there but if it does , blame yourselves , not obama , we know that his agenda but its you folks who allow it ..

05-23-2012, 10:53 PM	#13
cycloneman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 7,402	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws To lift one at the cost of another, they will defend To you they talk like friends, but it is only pretend They are coming across the globe to make you conform within They have heard your story and it’s time for you to cave in They don’t realize freedom is your only friend For that we will fight to the bitter end. So take your plans, and take your strife Turn your attention to your own life If they do come and choose to go on with this I do so welcome it. Why? Simple a new pack of leaders will emerge. I sure do pitty the fools that come this way. Fun times. __________________ Who are you going to serve today?

05-24-2012, 05:10 AM	#15
Guts3d V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Posts: 166	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Thanks for the info, Jack. I am stocking up on ammo and non-perishable foodstuffs. Just gotta find bottled water at a decent price now... __________________ "I don't like the idea of gettin' shot in the hand" - Blackie from "Rustler's Rhapsody"

05-24-2012, 08:55 AM	#17
Old Grump Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Little hut in the woods near Blue River Wisconsin Posts: 2,289	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Well some people in this country may wear rouge and give up their sovereignty but it ain't the people in my neck of the woods. We don't call ourselves rogues either, that would be people who are up to no good, like the UN Security Council and the Anti-Gun pansy ass panty wearers who are willing for you to give up your rights so they can sleep on their lilac scented silk sheets knowing they are safe from law abiding gun owners. __________________ "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson Roman Catholic, Life Member of American Legion, VFW, Wisconsin Libertarian party, Wi-FORCE, WGO, NRA, JPFO, GOA, SAFand CCRKBA

05-24-2012, 10:08 AM	#20
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,064	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws From my cold, dead hands. I'll be one of the bitter clingers to the very end. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

05-24-2012, 12:10 PM	#21
Zhurh Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Upper Yukon, Alaska Posts: 1,819	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Jack, I ain't scoffing, I know they have those dreams; just don't see it coming to fruition. I'm in the corner with you all, just don't plan on getting ulcers over those worries. Lived long enough to know the truth and know people where I call home won't comply because they have this deep rooted sense that the 2nd amendment trumps all and even our or any other govt can't take it away; it goes way back in America's psyche. I say, just let em try. The dems have been losing elections over single issue voters for some time and they just don't get it either. Gun owners are a huge voting block and they don't care about international treaties and so on. We moved from back east for a more independent lifestyle here in Alaska 20 years back. I guarantee Alaska would never comply as would most other states. I'd like to see the dems latch onto this one, be their Waterloo for sure. I foresee sales of guns & supplies being taxed and thus limited; that alone will upset America. I'm sure the UN talks this garbage, they just don't have anyway to back it up. It only works through voluntary compliance or you have tyranny which will lead to upheaval; dems don't even want that. Boy, I was going nuts buying 556 when it was $179/case in late 80's; heck my grandkids won't run out. Over the last 10 years, we've bought more AR's than Weatherbys and we hunt with them. They ain't gonna starve me out and people around here all reload and are well supplied for several generations. We all do what we can, but not worth going off the deep end over. I too think a spark will be ignited that will end all of this UN gun control talk once and for all. Until then Americans must work within the laws until a revolution is forced upon them; not llike it hasn't ever happened before. My nephew (the PJ) and another guy on his team are coming up to shoot some bear nx week and they are coming in, man do they eat. Hope to get him on a grizz too, but I see most grizz in the fall for some reason. They will be in Afghan come July, down South this time. We'll show him a good time riding back in on our trails, hunting with AR's slings behind our necks; perfect gun for atvs.

05-24-2012, 02:54 PM	#22
cutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 630	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Over my dead body!! Not much more left to say!!

05-24-2012, 03:40 PM	#23
FlashBang V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 200	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Good luck to anybody trying to takes guns from us Texans!

05-24-2012, 03:45 PM	#24
musclehead V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: central florida Posts: 227	Re: UN security council says USA will comply to new gun laws Fadi Al Awikki the UN Muslim brotherhood spokesperson stated " The age of islam is here and it is here now , we demand equality and that a muslim nation be granted the olympics in 2020 , failure to permit this will be seen world wide as a racist act against Islam and i can assure you the Uma will respond ". you've pointed out before that Islam is NOT a race! these guys are playing the race card world wide.