NFA C&R Question - The Firearms Forum

w1spurgeon · 02-13-2012, 09:28 AM

I have a C&R (Class 3 FFL). How does this play in the NFA world? Are the rules for purchasing any different?

StoneChimney · 02-13-2012, 09:34 PM

Not really, but it does make receiving the NFA item easier if it originates from out of state.

For instance, if you wanted to buy a Thompson SMG or Reising SMG from a dealer somewhere outside of Tennessee you would do the Form 4 and pay the tax just like any other Joe Citizen. BUT, the Class 3 dealer could ship directly to your door. No waiting on a Form 3 (dealer-to-dealer) and then the Form 4 (dealer-to-you).

Buying from a dealer in the same state, no difference than Joe Citizen. Form 4, $200 tax.

Some states allow C&R holders to possess NFA C&R firearms but prohibit non-licensees. Check your state laws for clarification on that.

soundguy · 05-30-2012, 12:52 PM

ditto what stone said.

i bought a c&r nfa gun out of state.. sent the paperwork in to the seling dealer.. when it was all said and done, due to my C&R license, they packed it up in the big brown truck with a bunch of insurance coverage and mailed it to me.

I will add one thing. most of my nfa toys were purchased prior to me ever getting my C&R license. the last one I got.. which was a c&r gun .. the III dealer sent in a copy of my C&R along witht he form 4 just for the heck of it. while I can't say for sure that it helped.. the transaction went thru in days.. not weeks.. or the one time, near 3 months that it has taken before on other fast, quiet or short toys...

soundguy

joncutt87 · 05-30-2012, 09:17 PM

I need to look into getting my c&r

medalguy · 05-30-2012, 10:55 PM

You do understand this all applies only to those NFA firearms listed as C&R, not newer NFA pieces.

joncutt87 · 05-30-2012, 11:16 PM

I'm more interested in the c&r than the nfa

soundguy · 05-31-2012, 07:34 AM

i'd love to get my hands on a mauser 712

Alpo · 05-31-2012, 09:07 AM

Soundguy, I'm curious. Exactly what type of C&R NFA item did you get? 'Cause the Big Brown Truck won't ship machine guns, and that's the first thing I think of about "C&R NFA".

soundguy · 05-31-2012, 09:27 AM

it might have been fedex.. dunno what carrier it was? been too long ago and i for sure don't have the original shipping container.

i prefer to not discuss what nfa toys I have online.

also keep in mind that not all nfa thingys are guns

02-13-2012, 09:28 AM	#1
w1spurgeon V.I.P. Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 176	NFA C&R Question I have a C&R (Class 3 FFL). How does this play in the NFA world? Are the rules for purchasing any different? -->

02-13-2012, 09:34 PM	#2
StoneChimney Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,087	Re: NFA C&R Question Not really, but it does make receiving the NFA item easier if it originates from out of state. For instance, if you wanted to buy a Thompson SMG or Reising SMG from a dealer somewhere outside of Tennessee you would do the Form 4 and pay the tax just like any other Joe Citizen. BUT, the Class 3 dealer could ship directly to your door. No waiting on a Form 3 (dealer-to-dealer) and then the Form 4 (dealer-to-you). Buying from a dealer in the same state, no difference than Joe Citizen. Form 4, $200 tax. Some states allow C&R holders to possess NFA C&R firearms but prohibit non-licensees. Check your state laws for clarification on that. __________________ Full service gunsmithing and firearm manufacturing shop. Licensed FFL 07/02 Manufacturer. Visit our website!

05-30-2012, 12:52 PM	#3
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,746	Re: NFA C&R Question ditto what stone said. i bought a c&r nfa gun out of state.. sent the paperwork in to the seling dealer.. when it was all said and done, due to my C&R license, they packed it up in the big brown truck with a bunch of insurance coverage and mailed it to me. I will add one thing. most of my nfa toys were purchased prior to me ever getting my C&R license. the last one I got.. which was a c&r gun .. the III dealer sent in a copy of my C&R along witht he form 4 just for the heck of it. while I can't say for sure that it helped.. the transaction went thru in days.. not weeks.. or the one time, near 3 months that it has taken before on other fast, quiet or short toys... soundguy

05-30-2012, 09:17 PM	#4
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: NFA C&R Question I need to look into getting my c&r __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

05-30-2012, 10:55 PM	#5
medalguy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 585	Re: NFA C&R Question You do understand this all applies only to those NFA firearms listed as C&R, not newer NFA pieces.

05-30-2012, 11:16 PM	#6
joncutt87 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kannapolis, NC Contributor Posts: 1,419	Re: NFA C&R Question I'm more interested in the c&r than the nfa __________________ Four words to live by: aequitas, veritas, decus, sacrificium

05-31-2012, 07:34 AM	#7
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,746	Re: NFA C&R Question i'd love to get my hands on a mauser 712

05-31-2012, 09:07 AM	#8
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: NFA C&R Question Soundguy, I'm curious. Exactly what type of C&R NFA item did you get? 'Cause the Big Brown Truck won't ship machine guns, and that's the first thing I think of about "C&R NFA". __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

05-31-2012, 09:27 AM	#9
soundguy Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: florida Contributor Posts: 4,746	Re: NFA C&R Question it might have been fedex.. dunno what carrier it was? been too long ago and i for sure don't have the original shipping container. i prefer to not discuss what nfa toys I have online. also keep in mind that not all nfa thingys are guns