Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 06-01-2012, 08:59 AM

Jersey City man arrested after morning fight carrying fake guns, a phony hand grenade, and a box of colostomy bags

Two Jersey City men fighting on Journal Square were held by firefighters and one was arrested when found with three toy guns spray-painted black, a plastic hand grenade, and a large knife, officials said.

Patrick Horner, 49, of Van Reypen Avenue, was arrested at 10:20 a.m. Monday and charged with aggravated assault and weapons offense, police reports said.

Responding officers spoke to the 47-year-old victim who said he knows Horner, and does not care for him, so he ignored him when Horner said hello with a Muslim greeting, reports said.

Horner became argumentative and lifted his shirt to display what appeared to be a handgun tucked into his waistband beside his colostomy bag, reports said.
The victim said Horner pointed the "gun" at him and hit him in the face with it and they began fighting, reports said.

When officers arrived and asked Horner for identification, he got it from a green bag, inside which police found two other toy guns painted black, reports said. They also found a knife with a 9-inch blade, the fake grenade, and a box of colostomy bags, reports said.

Horner's bail was set at $20,000 with a 10 percent cash option when he made his first appearance on the charges today in Central Judicial Processing court in Jersey City via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ed_with_2.html

Brass Tacks · 06-01-2012, 11:04 AM

it's the colostomy bags that elevated it to a B felony

JohnHenry · 06-01-2012, 01:02 PM

The correct response to "Salaam" is to say "Shalom" (shah- lohm; Hello )

whymememe · 06-01-2012, 01:38 PM

Bad blood between those two.

raven818 · 06-01-2012, 04:39 PM

I hope the victim has a weapon. Two-grand to get out on bond isn't a lot of money, if his family and friends decide to get him out. Since the attacker and victim know each other, it could escalate easy enough.

" Shalom " will work.

armoredman · 06-01-2012, 06:45 PM

Was he charged with possession of a disgusting weapon?

06-01-2012, 08:59 AM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up Jersey City man arrested after morning fight carrying fake guns, a phony hand grenade, and a box of colostomy bags Two Jersey City men fighting on Journal Square were held by firefighters and one was arrested when found with three toy guns spray-painted black, a plastic hand grenade, and a large knife, officials said. Patrick Horner, 49, of Van Reypen Avenue, was arrested at 10:20 a.m. Monday and charged with aggravated assault and weapons offense, police reports said. Responding officers spoke to the 47-year-old victim who said he knows Horner, and does not care for him, so he ignored him when Horner said hello with a Muslim greeting, reports said. Horner became argumentative and lifted his shirt to display what appeared to be a handgun tucked into his waistband beside his colostomy bag, reports said. The victim said Horner pointed the "gun" at him and hit him in the face with it and they began fighting, reports said. When officers arrived and asked Horner for identification, he got it from a green bag, inside which police found two other toy guns painted black, reports said. They also found a knife with a 9-inch blade, the fake grenade, and a box of colostomy bags, reports said. Horner's bail was set at $20,000 with a 10 percent cash option when he made his first appearance on the charges today in Central Judicial Processing court in Jersey City via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...ed_with_2.html -->

06-01-2012, 11:04 AM	#2
Brass Tacks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 557	Re: Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up it's the colostomy bags that elevated it to a B felony __________________ The Second Amendment, America's Original Homeland Security I don't know how I got over the hill without ever getting to the top.

06-01-2012, 01:02 PM	#3
JohnHenry Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Livingston county, Michigan Posts: 1,244	Re: Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up The correct response to "Salaam" is to say "Shalom" (shah- lohm; Hello ) __________________ Freedom .... Is Never Free ! We need Term Limits .... Send the "Professional Politicians" home .

06-01-2012, 01:38 PM	#4
whymememe Former Guest Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: FEMA Region IV Contributor Posts: 1,445	Re: Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up Bad blood between those two.

06-01-2012, 04:39 PM	#5
raven818 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl. Contributor Posts: 4,439	Re: Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up I hope the victim has a weapon. Two-grand to get out on bond isn't a lot of money, if his family and friends decide to get him out. Since the attacker and victim know each other, it could escalate easy enough. " Shalom " will work. __________________ Firearms and Salt Water Fishing Retired 42 Years LEO

06-01-2012, 06:45 PM	#6
armoredman Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Proud to be in Arizona Posts: 1,381	Re: Man refuses to respond to "Salaam" get's beat up Was he charged with possession of a disgusting weapon?