Three gun matches?

have2rotties · 11-23-2003, 08:27 PM

Hello all,
I am wondering about three gun matches. I have shoot some steel target pistol matches at a range out here where I am, but, I have little info on the three gun stuff. How do the matches work? what weapons are normally used? etc... I have a few weapons that I believe would do the trick for this stuff but am not sure. What I would be able to use is, either a Glock 34 or 19 for the pistol part, a 16" AR-15 w/ muzzle brake or a 20" AR-15 with a flash hidder. And a Remmington 870 supper mag. I will have to buy another barrel for the 870, I was thinking a 18" or 20" for this. Give me your input on this please. Also if anyone know if they are doing this type of comps in AZ please let me know.
Thanks,
Jason

pickenup · 11-24-2003, 01:12 AM

Jason;
Since you have shot some steel matches, you already know that there are no two stages alike. (or it should be that way) 3-gun matches are the same way. No two alike. Sometimes, on one stage, you will only shoot the rifle, long distance. Then other stages you may start with the rifle, shoot some targets close up, (I have shot targets so close the muzzle blast blew the target off the stand. LOL) then transition to the handgun. Once in a while you may start with the handgun (the other two will already be loaded and placed somewhere on the stage) after the handgun part, you will transition to one of the others for a while, then the remaining firearm, only to finish with the handgun. Most of the time the stages are set up to shoot at least 2 firearms. (except long range rifle)

The firearms you mention should do the job. Any handgun 9mm or bigger. Rifles are usually restricted to ANY military caliber. Most people use an AR of some kind. Shotguns are usually 12 ga. The number of people using pump vs. semi-auto is split, most people use a semi-auto, but I have seen a pump win the stage.

Why do you need to change the barrel?
I did get a new barrel on my 1187. It has a 20” now. I changed it so I would have rifle sights and be able to shoot slugs. Make sure that your shotgun is able to shoot slugs. With some chokes, it is not a good idea to shoot slugs through them.

One of the most time consuming things in a 3-gun match is re-loading your shotgun. Practicing this is recommended. If you reload your rifle on the move (best time to reload all weapons, is between shooting positions) then you want to check to see if you can put a FULLY loaded mag in, when there is a round in the chamber, and the bolt is closed. With some firearms, you will not be able to do this. (H&K, Steyr, etc) I am not sure about an AR. If this is a problem, the answer is to load only 18-19 rounds in a 20 round mag. You do not want to find this out in the middle of a stage.

Sorry I do not know about matches is AZ. If there is a IPSC chapter in your area, they may be able to steer you in the right direction. Check with the guys running the steel match, they may know of one. Hope you find one. 3-gun matches rate right up there with sex and/or a winding mountain road in the summer on my scooter, in my opinion. Above all, be safe and have FUN.

IShootBack · 11-29-2003, 09:28 AM

Welcome to the group

The three gun matches you inquire about are generally run in conjunction with IPSC clubs. Some IDPA clubs also shoot them, but as yet are not sanctioned events. Check your local ranges for IPSC or IDPA matches and contact the match director. They usually know about these matches within a few hundred miles of their location. You could also check out ranges that hold hi-power rifle matches and get some information from them.

Happy SHooting
ISB

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11-23-2003, 08:27 PM	#1
have2rotties V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 55	Three gun matches? Hello all, I am wondering about three gun matches. I have shoot some steel target pistol matches at a range out here where I am, but, I have little info on the three gun stuff. How do the matches work? what weapons are normally used? etc... I have a few weapons that I believe would do the trick for this stuff but am not sure. What I would be able to use is, either a Glock 34 or 19 for the pistol part, a 16" AR-15 w/ muzzle brake or a 20" AR-15 with a flash hidder. And a Remmington 870 supper mag. I will have to buy another barrel for the 870, I was thinking a 18" or 20" for this. Give me your input on this please. Also if anyone know if they are doing this type of comps in AZ please let me know. Thanks, Jason __________________ Jason, Gilbert, AZ -->

11-24-2003, 01:12 AM	#2
pickenup Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains Posts: 6,837	Jason; Since you have shot some steel matches, you already know that there are no two stages alike. (or it should be that way) 3-gun matches are the same way. No two alike. Sometimes, on one stage, you will only shoot the rifle, long distance. Then other stages you may start with the rifle, shoot some targets close up, (I have shot targets so close the muzzle blast blew the target off the stand. LOL) then transition to the handgun. Once in a while you may start with the handgun (the other two will already be loaded and placed somewhere on the stage) after the handgun part, you will transition to one of the others for a while, then the remaining firearm, only to finish with the handgun. Most of the time the stages are set up to shoot at least 2 firearms. (except long range rifle) The firearms you mention should do the job. Any handgun 9mm or bigger. Rifles are usually restricted to ANY military caliber. Most people use an AR of some kind. Shotguns are usually 12 ga. The number of people using pump vs. semi-auto is split, most people use a semi-auto, but I have seen a pump win the stage. Why do you need to change the barrel? I did get a new barrel on my 1187. It has a 20” now. I changed it so I would have rifle sights and be able to shoot slugs. Make sure that your shotgun is able to shoot slugs. With some chokes, it is not a good idea to shoot slugs through them. One of the most time consuming things in a 3-gun match is re-loading your shotgun. Practicing this is recommended. If you reload your rifle on the move (best time to reload all weapons, is between shooting positions) then you want to check to see if you can put a FULLY loaded mag in, when there is a round in the chamber, and the bolt is closed. With some firearms, you will not be able to do this. (H&K, Steyr, etc) I am not sure about an AR. If this is a problem, the answer is to load only 18-19 rounds in a 20 round mag. You do not want to find this out in the middle of a stage. Sorry I do not know about matches is AZ. If there is a IPSC chapter in your area, they may be able to steer you in the right direction. Check with the guys running the steel match, they may know of one. Hope you find one. 3-gun matches rate right up there with sex and/or a winding mountain road in the summer on my scooter, in my opinion. Above all, be safe and have FUN. __________________ The gene pool needs chlorine

11-29-2003, 09:28 AM	#3
IShootBack Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,306	Welcome to the group The three gun matches you inquire about are generally run in conjunction with IPSC clubs. Some IDPA clubs also shoot them, but as yet are not sanctioned events. Check your local ranges for IPSC or IDPA matches and contact the match director. They usually know about these matches within a few hundred miles of their location. You could also check out ranges that hold hi-power rifle matches and get some information from them. Happy SHooting ISB www.ipsc.org www.idpa.com __________________ "The Lord is a warrior, the Lord is his name." Exodus15:3 Last edited by IShootBack; 11-29-2003 at 09:28 AM..