Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models - Page 2

Snakedriver · 07-21-2012, 10:10 AM

I've had this old Mark I since 1980 and it's always been flawless and accurate as hell. The newer style rubbers grips work great.

Zane71464 · 07-21-2012, 12:13 PM

I like the grips and the front sight! Nice.

CJ_56 · 07-21-2012, 03:58 PM

IMO the Mark II is a far superior pistol the standard model (which was never actually called a standard until the Mk II came along and they needed a name for the previous model). In fact a Mk II my friend has is about the most accurate handgun I've ever shot. Inch size groups at 75 yards are not out of the question with that pistol. I never did shoot a standard model that was anywhere near as accurate as that. The Mk III's are also fine pistols and better than the standard model but IMO the Mk II is the best one that was made.

I know a lot of people like the standard model and I don't mean to step on any toes but I've shot a bunch of them and I could never shoot well with any of them. On the other hand the Mk II was like butter as soon as I picked one up. I have several accurate hand guns in fact including a S&W 629, a Sig P220, a Sprinfield XDm .40 and a Taurus PT-145. I even have a Raven P-25 that was very accurate for decades until it got messed up during cleaning. Now it won't shoot accurate at all. All those handguns shoot better than any standard I ever picked up or they did at one time anyway. All but the Raven still do. I'm not a Ruger basher. I love the Mk II's and someday I hope to get one like the one with the 12" bull barrel like my friend owns. But the standard is another question completely. I don't have much use for one of those but I'm guessing some people have models that work well. Guns are always dependent on so many factors and can vary from one example to another even if they were made the same day on the same line.

Rugermanws · 07-21-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ_56

IMO the Mark II is a far superior pistol the standard model (which was never actually called a standard until the Mk II came along and they needed a name for the previous model). In fact a Mk II my friend has is about the most accurate handgun I've ever shot. Inch size groups at 75 yards are not out of the question with that pistol. I never did shoot a standard model that was anywhere near as accurate as that. The Mk III's are also fine pistols and better than the standard model but IMO the Mk II is the best one that was made.

I know a lot of people like the standard model and I don't mean to step on any toes but I've shot a bunch of them and I could never shoot well with any of them. On the other hand the Mk II was like butter as soon as I picked one up. I have several accurate hand guns in fact including a S&W 629, a Sig P220, a Sprinfield XDm .40 and a Taurus PT-145. I even have a Raven P-25 that was very accurate for decades until it got messed up during cleaning. Now it won't shoot accurate at all. All those handguns shoot better than any standard I ever picked up or they did at one time anyway. All but the Raven still do. I'm not a Ruger basher. I love the Mk II's and someday I hope to get one like the one with the 12" bull barrel like my friend owns. But the standard is another question completely. I don't have much use for one of those but I'm guessing some people have models that work well. Guns are always dependent on so many factors and can vary from one example to another even if they were made the same day on the same line.

You don't get rid of old Rugers, you shoot them until they break or you die trying. I don't know how many rounds it takes to wear a Mark II out but in 15 years I haven't had one problem except when using cheap ammo.

CampingJosh · 07-21-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ_56

IMO the Mark II is a far superior pistol the standard model (which was never actually called a standard until the Mk II came along and they needed a name for the previous model).

Are you sure on that? I had a Standard Model made in 1973, and the manual that came with it was labeled for the Standard Model and Mark 1.

Snakedriver · 07-22-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CampingJosh

Are you sure on that? I had a Standard Model made in 1973, and the manual that came with it was labeled for the Standard Model and Mark 1.

Correct Josh, while my Mark I has the bull-barrel, this is the "User's Manual" that came with it.

cpttango30 · 07-22-2012, 03:47 PM

Mines too ugly to post. It is one of the 4 project guns I got going....

CJ_56 · 07-22-2012, 11:50 PM

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Are you sure on that? I had a Standard Model made in 1973, and the manual that came with it was labeled for the Standard Model and Mark 1.

I'm not sure of much of anything. I just know I've read that the Target designation and the Standard designation were more of a description than a name. I don't remember where I read it so and I can't find it now so what I said could be wrong.

Rugermanws · 07-23-2012, 04:02 PM

Duplicate post, my bad.

Rugermanws · 07-23-2012, 04:34 PM

I hope this works; My father's Standard model (4 Digit) serial number built in 1949 or 1950 and my Mark I Liberty Ruger built in 1976.
Img 1949 & 1976_edited-1.jpg/Image

Sorry I'm working on it. The web site I used to use to do this is now gone. Trying to figure it out.

Rugermanws · 07-23-2012, 09:22 PM

http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accoun...f328aa80813c72
My second attempt to post my rugers, 1949/1950 and my 1976. I have the bull barrel I posted by mistake and the 50th anniversay model to compliment my dad's original standard model.

todd51 · 07-23-2012, 09:28 PM

Those are cool Rugerman. Some times they do it right the first time and should have just stopped there and quit trying to improve something that doesn't need it.

todd51 · 07-23-2012, 09:30 PM

Dale, that red dot looks awesome. What size it the dot, 5 moa or is it smaller? I think I have finally solved the problem with the red dot "flaring" on my Burris FastFire by putting electrical tape over the sensor with a pin hole in the tape. Made a big difference and much more enjoyable.

Rugermanws · 07-23-2012, 09:33 PM

I do like the Mark II because the bolt stays back and you know you're empty. The Mark I has you counting shots and I'll probably end up buying a Mark III but I hate the Loaded Chamber Indicator which from reading this forum can be removed with modification.

todd51 · 07-23-2012, 09:59 PM

Rugerman, yes it can be removed and someone makes a filler piece for the hole that would remain. But it doesn't bother me a bit on both of the Mk IIIs I have. I just sort of ignore it. I know a lot of people take it as an insult their proper gun handling. I put a Sam's Bushing in both of my III's eliminating the mag safety which sort of makes them II's now, ha.

Zane71464 · 07-23-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by todd51

Dale, that red dot looks awesome. What size it the dot, 5 moa or is it smaller? I think I have finally solved the problem with the red dot "flaring" on my Burris FastFire by putting electrical tape over the sensor with a pin hole in the tape. Made a big difference and much more enjoyable.

Hey Todd, it goes from 1-5 moa on both the red and green and is 1x42mm.
I didnt know that til after I'd gotten it home. On the 1 (one) position, you can barely see them. (red/green)
On the 5, it'll cove a pop can up at about 30yds or so.
It's a bit more bulky than I like, but spot on. And for the price $41, I like it.

todd51 · 07-24-2012, 08:51 AM

That 1 moa dot sounds nice and would allow some target shooting at distance. My dot would flare so much it covered the entire target at any thing past 25 yards. Now with the tape mods I have a much smaller dot. Talk about balky, that 4x scope I put on the Hunter make it a "use a rest" only pistol. Don't know if I will keep in on there or not but I want to play with it a 100 yards for a while before I change any thing.

See where Burris now makes a FastFire III with manual adjustment on the intensity. Wish they had done that from the beginning.

Zane71464 · 07-24-2012, 09:08 AM

I'd seen the thread Todd a while back to where you used the tape to cut down on yours, and excellent idea! I had a pistol scope on a Ruger SB .44mag some time back and ohh man, the weight of the gun was enough and to hold the cross hars on was another.
Your Hunter looks awesome with the scope, but I'm sorta like you and the bulky/weight thing.
I like my Mk III with open sights and do "alright" but with those dots in there...went from missing a bit to almost no misses on a small target. I'll have to check out the newer Fastfire III!

A square 10 · 08-16-2012, 02:48 PM

i have a mkII that represents the semi-auto ruger in my collection ,

2chuckles · 08-31-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by todd51

Yea Dale, they can be trying at times and with the MK III you have to fool with the mag in - mag out nonsense. Then there is the Oh! I forgot to pull the trigger, ha. Wait till you take it down farther and fight with the safety and it's little plunger ball ( watch out or you can lose that sucker

). Some times you just wish you had a third hand. But eventually it becomes second hand and easier. Keep a BFH handy

But they are a fine shooting little pistol and I think they are worth the hassle. It is not necessary to remove the barrel from the frame every time you want to give it a little clean up.

Google up Sam's Bushing, send him the $$ and simplify your MKIII operation and improve the trigger at the same time. Best $11 I ever spent.

oldfartrr · 09-15-2012, 04:22 PM

my MRK I found in a pawnshop for $25 about 20yrs ago,, and a couple bucks for a new fireing pin.. still fun to shoot and the grandkids and greatgrand kids all love to spend the day with a brick to feed her.

Maine04657 · 09-15-2012, 07:01 PM

I have always been a fan of the MK series pistols. Here are the three I currently have. From the bottom up the first is a MKI I got not to long ago that had some bad bluing due to being left in a wet holster for a few years. I blasted and gave it a paint job with gold Duracoat. Next one up is a first model 22/45 with polymer grip threaded for suppressor use hence the flash hider/ thread protector. The top one is a MKIII in stainless it is integrally suppressed and quite the shooter as well.

07-21-2012, 10:10 AM	#26
Snakedriver Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW. Florida Posts: 1,219	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I've had this old Mark I since 1980 and it's always been flawless and accurate as hell. The newer style rubbers grips work great. Attached Images __________________ Fear is a reaction..........Courage is a decision

07-21-2012, 12:13 PM	#27
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,348	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I like the grips and the front sight! Nice. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"! Last edited by Zane71464; 07-21-2012 at 12:14 PM..

07-21-2012, 03:58 PM	#28
CJ_56 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SE Ohio Posts: 391	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models IMO the Mark II is a far superior pistol the standard model (which was never actually called a standard until the Mk II came along and they needed a name for the previous model). In fact a Mk II my friend has is about the most accurate handgun I've ever shot. Inch size groups at 75 yards are not out of the question with that pistol. I never did shoot a standard model that was anywhere near as accurate as that. The Mk III's are also fine pistols and better than the standard model but IMO the Mk II is the best one that was made. I know a lot of people like the standard model and I don't mean to step on any toes but I've shot a bunch of them and I could never shoot well with any of them. On the other hand the Mk II was like butter as soon as I picked one up. I have several accurate hand guns in fact including a S&W 629, a Sig P220, a Sprinfield XDm .40 and a Taurus PT-145. I even have a Raven P-25 that was very accurate for decades until it got messed up during cleaning. Now it won't shoot accurate at all. All those handguns shoot better than any standard I ever picked up or they did at one time anyway. All but the Raven still do. I'm not a Ruger basher. I love the Mk II's and someday I hope to get one like the one with the 12" bull barrel like my friend owns. But the standard is another question completely. I don't have much use for one of those but I'm guessing some people have models that work well. Guns are always dependent on so many factors and can vary from one example to another even if they were made the same day on the same line.

07-22-2012, 03:47 PM	#32
cpttango30 Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stafford, VA Contributor Posts: 3,071	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models Mines too ugly to post. It is one of the 4 project guns I got going....

07-23-2012, 04:02 PM	#34
Rugermanws V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: White Oak Pa Posts: 225	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models Duplicate post, my bad.

07-23-2012, 04:34 PM	#35
Rugermanws V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: White Oak Pa Posts: 225	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I hope this works; My father's Standard model (4 Digit) serial number built in 1949 or 1950 and my Mark I Liberty Ruger built in 1976. Img 1949 & 1976_edited-1.jpg/Image Sorry I'm working on it. The web site I used to use to do this is now gone. Trying to figure it out. Last edited by Rugermanws; 07-23-2012 at 04:40 PM.. Reason: No Picture

07-23-2012, 09:22 PM	#36
Rugermanws V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: White Oak Pa Posts: 225	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accoun...f328aa80813c72 My second attempt to post my rugers, 1949/1950 and my 1976. I have the bull barrel I posted by mistake and the 50th anniversay model to compliment my dad's original standard model. Last edited by Rugermanws; 07-23-2012 at 09:25 PM.. Reason: Addition

07-23-2012, 09:28 PM	#37
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,570	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models Those are cool Rugerman. Some times they do it right the first time and should have just stopped there and quit trying to improve something that doesn't need it. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

07-23-2012, 09:30 PM	#38
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,570	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models Dale, that red dot looks awesome. What size it the dot, 5 moa or is it smaller? I think I have finally solved the problem with the red dot "flaring" on my Burris FastFire by putting electrical tape over the sensor with a pin hole in the tape. Made a big difference and much more enjoyable. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

07-23-2012, 09:33 PM	#39
Rugermanws V.I.P. Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: White Oak Pa Posts: 225	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I do like the Mark II because the bolt stays back and you know you're empty. The Mark I has you counting shots and I'll probably end up buying a Mark III but I hate the Loaded Chamber Indicator which from reading this forum can be removed with modification.

07-23-2012, 09:59 PM	#40
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,570	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models Rugerman, yes it can be removed and someone makes a filler piece for the hole that would remain. But it doesn't bother me a bit on both of the Mk IIIs I have. I just sort of ignore it. I know a lot of people take it as an insult their proper gun handling. I put a Sam's Bushing in both of my III's eliminating the mag safety which sort of makes them II's now, ha. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

07-24-2012, 08:51 AM	#42
todd51 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Central, Ohio Contributor Posts: 2,570	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models That 1 moa dot sounds nice and would allow some target shooting at distance. My dot would flare so much it covered the entire target at any thing past 25 yards. Now with the tape mods I have a much smaller dot. Talk about balky, that 4x scope I put on the Hunter make it a "use a rest" only pistol. Don't know if I will keep in on there or not but I want to play with it a 100 yards for a while before I change any thing. See where Burris now makes a FastFire III with manual adjustment on the intensity. Wish they had done that from the beginning. __________________ Retired Praefectus Vigilum NRA Endowment Member

07-24-2012, 09:08 AM	#43
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,348	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I'd seen the thread Todd a while back to where you used the tape to cut down on yours, and excellent idea! I had a pistol scope on a Ruger SB .44mag some time back and ohh man, the weight of the gun was enough and to hold the cross hars on was another. Your Hunter looks awesome with the scope, but I'm sorta like you and the bulky/weight thing. I like my Mk III with open sights and do "alright" but with those dots in there...went from missing a bit to almost no misses on a small target. I'll have to check out the newer Fastfire III! __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

08-16-2012, 02:48 PM	#44
A square 10 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 52	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models i have a mkII that represents the semi-auto ruger in my collection ,

09-15-2012, 04:22 PM	#46
oldfartrr V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: northern calif Posts: 292	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models my MRK I found in a pawnshop for $25 about 20yrs ago,, and a couple bucks for a new fireing pin.. still fun to shoot and the grandkids and greatgrand kids all love to spend the day with a brick to feed her. Attached Images

09-15-2012, 07:01 PM	#47
Maine04657 V.I.P. Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Maine Posts: 329	Re: Ruger Mark Series and Standard Models I have always been a fan of the MK series pistols. Here are the three I currently have. From the bottom up the first is a MKI I got not to long ago that had some bad bluing due to being left in a wet holster for a few years. I blasted and gave it a paint job with gold Duracoat. Next one up is a first model 22/45 with polymer grip threaded for suppressor use hence the flash hider/ thread protector. The top one is a MKIII in stainless it is integrally suppressed and quite the shooter as well.