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Helldorado · 11-26-2003, 09:49 PM

dumb question....but whats the difference between single and double action?

SouthernMoss · 11-26-2003, 10:23 PM

With a single action, you have to manually cock the hammer, and then pulling the trigger releases the hammer. With double action, pulling the trigger cocks the hammer and then releases the hammer.

Marlin · 11-26-2003, 10:45 PM

Also, unless it is DAO, Double Action Only, a DA can be hand cocked by pulling the hammer back as an alternate.

Most revolvers are DA (S&W) but many are SA (RUGER). Pistols may be either way. The most popular 1911A1, mil-spec .45 is SA as is the Browning Hi-Power, designed on John Browning's original semi-automatic design.

This is, of course, over simplified but will give you a good general idea along with SoMo's notes.

BTW, NO QUESTION is Dumb or overly simple. That's exactly why we are here. We have a fine bunch of congenial folks and a cummulative knowledge that you can't find anywhere else. Ask anything, any time and you'll get an answer.

Helldorado · 11-27-2003, 05:56 AM

thanx alot! yall are VERY helpful and i appreciate it!

FN_Project90 · 11-27-2003, 10:51 AM

I ask the stupid questions around here thank you

hehe

Marlin · 11-27-2003, 11:12 AM

Now, FN, that ain't nice.

FN_Project90 · 11-27-2003, 06:07 PM

I am just making fun of myself hehe

armedandsafe · 11-27-2003, 06:45 PM

Yeah, FN, don't be trying to hog all the fun stuff for yourself.

There are no dumb questions. Just some people too dumb to ask.

Pops

FN_Project90 · 11-27-2003, 06:58 PM

oh trust me I ask really stupid questions,

oh ok I don't but hey I was umm yeah so you um yeah you um uhhh SHOWED YOU! *runs away crying*
I need one of those signs that Jeff Foxworthy talks about (or was it that country singer), *bill is putting away the lawn mower smell of fresh cut grass in the air, me "mow the lawn"*
hehe

Helldorado · 11-27-2003, 07:06 PM

oh, one more stupid question....FN what in the world are you talkin about???

FN_Project90 · 11-27-2003, 08:34 PM

no one really knows man

Marlin · 11-28-2003, 08:29 PM

Sounds as though that were the - - - -

- - - - - Sixty Four Thousand Question!

Smokin Guns · 11-28-2003, 08:40 PM

Y'alls funny!...

...

stash247 · 11-29-2003, 10:34 AM

Save me some of them drugs-- you guys are having way too much fun!
To the original question: In a singe action weapon, the trigger performs a "single action'- it releases the hammer. In a double action, the trigger (1) "Cocks" the hammer, then (2) releases the hammer.
'Course that definition would make an M-60 a single action weapon, huh?

JohnK3 · 12-01-2003, 01:10 PM

Absitively!

Posolutely!

FN_Project90 · 12-01-2003, 09:49 PM

so who wants to make their dog jump through a flaming hoop again?

45Smashemflat · 12-02-2003, 05:27 PM

Is that jumping through hoops, or putting out fires?

Maybe jumping through fires, and putting out hoops????

Helldorado · 12-02-2003, 09:55 PM

yada whada who? i have no idea whats goin on

glocknut · 12-27-2003, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Helldorado
yada whada who? i have no idea whats goin on

Its kinda like your first year of High school, you eventually run into a few Seniors who are wild eyed and ready to climb the walls... same thing here.

They are right, no such thing as a stupid question......just stupid actions like shooting disposable propane bottles and such......

mike

keppler · 12-27-2003, 07:33 AM

If'n my memory is working this mornin...which it useually dont...the trigger releases the bolt on a M-60. Don't it fire from the open bolt position?

45Smashemflat · 12-28-2003, 10:20 AM

Roger that - so do some Uzi's and Mac's its a failry common SubGun action.

MrWingnut10mm · 02-03-2004, 04:36 PM

BUT!!! do we all know why they are open bolt??? I'LL tell ya why. cuz their rates of fire are so fast and such that the chamber heats up so much that a round can cook off after you have taken your finger off the triger. SOOO the bolt stays open and keeps a round out of the chamber untill you pull the trigger. cuz in theory, not will all people, but when you pull the trigger they think you are ready to fire.

treeppl · 02-19-2004, 09:37 AM

New guy here. With a SA you only have to manually cock it the first shot right? After that it works the same as a DA?

Crpdeth · 02-19-2004, 10:58 AM

Treeppl... Thats true for an auto such as the 1911 designs that Marlin mentioned (after each shot the slide will recock it automaticaly), but a SA relvolver requires the shooter to manually cock the hammer back on each shot.

BTW, welcome to the club.

~Crp

inplanotx · 02-19-2004, 11:42 AM

Stash wrote:

Quote:

'Course that definition would make an M-60 a single action weapon, huh?

Sure guess it would, but y'all have to cock it twice!!

11-26-2003, 09:49 PM	#1
Helldorado V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 73	dumb question... dumb question....but whats the difference between single and double action? -->

11-26-2003, 10:23 PM	#2
SouthernMoss Admin Tech Staff Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: SW MS Contributor Posts: 10,651	With a single action, you have to manually cock the hammer, and then pulling the trigger releases the hammer. With double action, pulling the trigger cocks the hammer and then releases the hammer. __________________ My Second protects your First "I declare to you that woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." - Susan B Anthony

11-26-2003, 10:45 PM	#3
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Also, unless it is DAO, Double Action Only, a DA can be hand cocked by pulling the hammer back as an alternate. Most revolvers are DA (S&W) but many are SA (RUGER). Pistols may be either way. The most popular 1911A1, mil-spec .45 is SA as is the Browning Hi-Power, designed on John Browning's original semi-automatic design. This is, of course, over simplified but will give you a good general idea along with SoMo's notes. BTW, NO QUESTION is Dumb or overly simple. That's exactly why we are here. We have a fine bunch of congenial folks and a cummulative knowledge that you can't find anywhere else. Ask anything, any time and you'll get an answer. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.* Last edited by Marlin; 11-26-2003 at 10:47 PM..

11-27-2003, 10:51 AM	#5
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	I ask the stupid questions around here thank you hehe __________________ Things n' Stuff

11-27-2003, 11:12 AM	#6
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Now, FN, that ain't nice. __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

11-27-2003, 05:56 AM	#4
Helldorado V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 73	thanx alot! yall are VERY helpful and i appreciate it!

11-27-2003, 06:07 PM	#7
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	I am just making fun of myself hehe __________________ Things n' Stuff

11-27-2003, 06:45 PM	#8
armedandsafe Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Moses Lake, WA Posts: 10,344	Yeah, FN, don't be trying to hog all the fun stuff for yourself. There are no dumb questions. Just some people too dumb to ask. Pops Last edited by armedandsafe; 11-27-2003 at 06:46 PM..

11-27-2003, 06:58 PM	#9
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	oh trust me I ask really stupid questions, oh ok I don't but hey I was umm yeah so you um yeah you um uhhh SHOWED YOU! runs away crying I need one of those signs that Jeff Foxworthy talks about (or was it that country singer), bill is putting away the lawn mower smell of fresh cut grass in the air, me "mow the lawn" hehe __________________ Things n' Stuff

11-27-2003, 07:06 PM	#10
Helldorado V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 73	oh, one more stupid question....FN what in the world are you talkin about???

11-27-2003, 08:34 PM	#11
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	no one really knows man __________________ Things n' Stuff

11-28-2003, 08:29 PM	#12
Marlin TFF Admin Staff Chief Counselor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: At SouthernMoss' side forever! Contributor Posts: 13,853	Sounds as though that were the - - - - - - - - - Sixty Four Thousand Question! __________________ *The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing.* *The only criminal class native to the United States is Congress.*

11-28-2003, 08:40 PM	#13
Smokin Guns Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: "Gun Culture Members Clubhouse"... Posts: 4,463	Y'alls funny!... ... __________________

11-29-2003, 10:34 AM	#14
stash247 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central Texas Posts: 2,815	Save me some of them drugs-- you guys are having way too much fun! To the original question: In a singe action weapon, the trigger performs a "single action'- it releases the hammer. In a double action, the trigger (1) "Cocks" the hammer, then (2) releases the hammer. 'Course that definition would make an M-60 a single action weapon, huh? __________________ Don't start no s**t and there won't be none, Terry

12-01-2003, 01:10 PM	#15
JohnK3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,636	Absitively! Posolutely!

12-01-2003, 09:49 PM	#16
FN_Project90 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 803	so who wants to make their dog jump through a flaming hoop again? __________________ Things n' Stuff

12-02-2003, 05:27 PM	#17
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Is that jumping through hoops, or putting out fires? Maybe jumping through fires, and putting out hoops????

12-02-2003, 09:55 PM	#18
Helldorado V.I.P. Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 73	yada whada who? i have no idea whats goin on

12-27-2003, 07:33 AM	#20
keppler Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eastern Oklahoma Posts: 645	If'n my memory is working this mornin...which it useually dont...the trigger releases the bolt on a M-60. Don't it fire from the open bolt position?

12-28-2003, 10:20 AM	#21
45Smashemflat Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,494	Roger that - so do some Uzi's and Mac's its a failry common SubGun action.

02-03-2004, 04:36 PM	#22
MrWingnut10mm Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Washington DC Posts: 15	BUT!!! do we all know why they are open bolt??? I'LL tell ya why. cuz their rates of fire are so fast and such that the chamber heats up so much that a round can cook off after you have taken your finger off the triger. SOOO the bolt stays open and keeps a round out of the chamber untill you pull the trigger. cuz in theory, not will all people, but when you pull the trigger they think you are ready to fire.

02-19-2004, 09:37 AM	#23
treeppl Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 8	New guy here. With a SA you only have to manually cock it the first shot right? After that it works the same as a DA?

02-19-2004, 10:58 AM	#24
Crpdeth Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Location: Location Contributor Posts: 8,247	Treeppl... Thats true for an auto such as the 1911 designs that Marlin mentioned (after each shot the slide will recock it automaticaly), but a SA relvolver requires the shooter to manually cock the hammer back on each shot. BTW, welcome to the club. ~Crp __________________ Our greatest pretenses are built up not to hide the evil and the ugly in us, but our emptiness. The hardest thing to hide is something that is not there. ~Eric Hoffer Last edited by Crpdeth; 02-19-2004 at 11:01 AM..