H&R Topper model 148 question

fuzebox40 · 07-08-2012, 11:54 PM

I picked this up a few months back and I'm just now getting it out to have a closer look at it. The bore looks like it's never been used but it has some rust pitting on the barrel, shame, oh well. So I was about pull the barrel off to refinish it and assuming the forearm pops down to release it I gave a tug and it didn't budge. Tugged a little harder and still no budge. I'm pretty sure that's the release method but "pretty sure" means -not sure- and I don't wanna break something just because I was too proud to ask.

Can somebody set me straight? Thanks.

Terry

GunHugger · 07-09-2012, 05:02 AM

I believe there's a screw in the middle of the forearm that goes into the barrel to hold the forearm on.

Remove that screw and the forearm will come off.

GunHugger · 07-09-2012, 05:06 AM

I found the picture I was looking for, it shows the screw I mentioned above. It's been a while since I owned or worked on one of these, just wanted to be sure.

fuzebox40 · 07-09-2012, 11:04 AM

Negative, no screw. This is why my assumption of it snapping into place. I don't think that breakdown is a 148.

GunHugger · 07-09-2012, 11:22 AM

I had a NEF single about 6 years ago in 17HMR, synthetic stock. The forearm just pulled down like most single or double barrel shotguns, like you have tried already. I do remember it being very hard to pull down.

fuzebox40 · 07-09-2012, 11:33 AM

Yeah, there isn't any other way short of driving out the joint pin so it had to be just extreemily tight, so I went ahead and pulled like hell on it and it gave. Probably not been removed ever.

fuzebox40 · 07-09-2012, 11:34 AM

Spring loaded wedge pops into the indent on flat side of stud.

fuzebox40 · 07-09-2012, 12:03 PM

This a 20 gauge H&R but with it I also aquired a NEF .410 single. I first thought they were both H&R's till I saw the NEF. Now with your mentioning of it I'm getting the impresion it is in fact an H&R made for NEF. Is that right?

fuzebox40 · 07-09-2012, 12:31 PM

Here is the NEF .410

Sprint · 07-10-2012, 05:47 AM

fuzebox40,

The reason you had a problem removing the forend from your H&R Topper could be that the stud on the barrel appears to be a re-weld (braze) and the forend iron could be binding.

Your H&R, Inc. shotgun and the NEF are two completely different companies.
H&R, Inc. ceased operations in early 1986. NEF Co., Inc. started manufacturing "Pardner" shotguns in January of 1987.

Hope this helps

Sprint

07-08-2012, 11:54 PM	#1
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	H&R Topper model 148 question I picked this up a few months back and I'm just now getting it out to have a closer look at it. The bore looks like it's never been used but it has some rust pitting on the barrel, shame, oh well. So I was about pull the barrel off to refinish it and assuming the forearm pops down to release it I gave a tug and it didn't budge. Tugged a little harder and still no budge. I'm pretty sure that's the release method but "pretty sure" means -not sure- and I don't wanna break something just because I was too proud to ask. Can somebody set me straight? Thanks. Terry -->

07-09-2012, 05:02 AM	#2
GunHugger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SW PA Posts: 1,159	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question I believe there's a screw in the middle of the forearm that goes into the barrel to hold the forearm on. Remove that screw and the forearm will come off. __________________ . “There will be a revolution in this country!” “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” ~Barack Obama "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here." ~Captain John Parker, to his Minute Men on Lexington Green, April 19, 1775.

07-09-2012, 05:06 AM	#3
GunHugger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SW PA Posts: 1,159	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question I found the picture I was looking for, it shows the screw I mentioned above. It's been a while since I owned or worked on one of these, just wanted to be sure. __________________ . “There will be a revolution in this country!” “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” ~Barack Obama "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here." ~Captain John Parker, to his Minute Men on Lexington Green, April 19, 1775.

07-09-2012, 11:04 AM	#4
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question Negative, no screw. This is why my assumption of it snapping into place. I don't think that breakdown is a 148.

07-09-2012, 11:22 AM	#5
GunHugger Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SW PA Posts: 1,159	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question I had a NEF single about 6 years ago in 17HMR, synthetic stock. The forearm just pulled down like most single or double barrel shotguns, like you have tried already. I do remember it being very hard to pull down. __________________ . “There will be a revolution in this country!” “I don’t believe people should to be able to own guns.” ~Barack Obama "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here." ~Captain John Parker, to his Minute Men on Lexington Green, April 19, 1775.

07-09-2012, 11:33 AM	#6
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question Yeah, there isn't any other way short of driving out the joint pin so it had to be just extreemily tight, so I went ahead and pulled like hell on it and it gave. Probably not been removed ever. Attached Images

07-09-2012, 11:34 AM	#7
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question Spring loaded wedge pops into the indent on flat side of stud. Attached Images Last edited by fuzebox40; 07-09-2012 at 11:37 AM..

07-09-2012, 12:03 PM	#8
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question This a 20 gauge H&R but with it I also aquired a NEF .410 single. I first thought they were both H&R's till I saw the NEF. Now with your mentioning of it I'm getting the impresion it is in fact an H&R made for NEF. Is that right?

07-09-2012, 12:31 PM	#9
fuzebox40 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Apple Valley, Ca. Contributor Posts: 1,485	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question Here is the NEF .410 Attached Images

07-10-2012, 05:47 AM	#10
Sprint Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 44	Re: H&R Topper model 148 question fuzebox40, The reason you had a problem removing the forend from your H&R Topper could be that the stud on the barrel appears to be a re-weld (braze) and the forend iron could be binding. Your H&R, Inc. shotgun and the NEF are two completely different companies. H&R, Inc. ceased operations in early 1986. NEF Co., Inc. started manufacturing "Pardner" shotguns in January of 1987. Hope this helps Sprint