Joe vs Joe - The Firearms Forum

steve4102 · 07-16-2012, 04:35 PM

WORKING JOE vs. WELFARE JOE

You have two families: " WORKING JOE " vs " WELFARE JOE ". Both families have two parents, two children, and lives in New York .

WORKING Joe works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Welfare Joe does not work, has a Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 per hour "without leaving the house".

Ready? Now pay attention...

Working Joe : $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year.
Now take 30% away for local, state, and federal taxes.
Working Joe now has $31,231.00 net..

Welfare Joe : $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200..00 per year. Welfare Joe pays no taxes. Welfare Joe now has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Working Joe now has $24,031.00 net.

Welfare Joe has full medical and dental coverage through Medicaid and local free clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe makes too much money and is not eligible for welfare. Working Joe pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Working Joe now has $18,031 net.

Welfare Joe has no documented income and is eligible for welfare. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays rent of $1,200..00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Working Joe now has $9,631.00 net.

Welfare Joe receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Welfare Joe pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for auto insurance.. Working Joe now has $7,231...00 net.

Welfare Joe says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00 net.

Working Joe has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Welfare Joe has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, buy gas, prepaid cell phone card, (alcohol/cigarettes) and play at the Casino.

Working Joe now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Welfare Joe has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family & friends.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe's children attend the same school.
Working Joe pays for his children's lunches while Welfare Joe's children get a government sponsored lunch.
Working Joe's children go home after school, while Welfare Joe's children have an after school program provided free.

Working Joe and Welfare Joe both enjoy the same police and fire services, but working Joe paid for them with his taxes and Welfare Joe did not.

Do you get it, now? YEAH...IT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE ME PUKE.......

If you support any politician who supports our welfare system, you are part of the problem!

Sig Willy · 07-16-2012, 05:06 PM

I think that's a little farfetched. Welfare shouldn't be that good and I don't know anyone who does well on welfare.

I'm on SSI and that's $650 a month and I get $85 a month with my Lone Star card for food. My medical is free though. I pay for my room and board (at my sis's and I'm legally homeless), no cell phone but the cheapest phone in the house, cheap internet service and cheap TV.

I pay for the gas and insurance on my car plus any repairs I'd have to make. I'm not allowed to have assets over $2000 but house and car are exempt.

Yeah I got it made.

I'd rather be working and have a real life.

jack404 · 07-16-2012, 06:01 PM

willy come to Australia

i'm a 28 year vet get a pension for 25 yrs service and its 55% of what someone who has no job and gets the dole will get add rental assistance and its heaps more

here they call it sit down money , why get up and work when you get almost as much for not working

Sig Willy · 07-16-2012, 06:13 PM

Still not right. Welfare is supposed to get us by, not do better than a working man. Someone's screwing the system somewhere.

jack404 · 07-16-2012, 06:43 PM

YES!!! exactly

wealth redistribution .. another socialist goal achieved

raven818 · 07-16-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sig Willy

Still not right. Welfare is supposed to get us by, not do better than a working man. Someone's screwing the system somewhere.

I know what your problem is regarding income. You can't pop kids out every nine months. Welfare is sexist. It pays well to be female, single and pregnant.

People do live well thru welfare. You're just to honest.

76Highboy · 07-16-2012, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sig Willy

Still not right. Welfare is supposed to get us by, not do better than a working man. Someone's screwing the system somewhere.

That would be true except now welfare gets presidents elected.

redwing carson · 07-16-2012, 08:27 PM

Problem is the takers are like wild dogs. They want more from the worker and show them no repect. They attack wanting more of what the worker makes. At some point the wild dogs kill the worker.

07-16-2012, 04:35 PM	#1
steve4102 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Contributor Posts: 2,760	Joe vs Joe WORKING JOE vs. WELFARE JOE You have two families: " WORKING JOE " vs " WELFARE JOE ". Both families have two parents, two children, and lives in New York . WORKING Joe works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted. Welfare Joe does not work, has a Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 per hour "without leaving the house". Ready? Now pay attention... Working Joe : $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for local, state, and federal taxes. Working Joe now has $31,231.00 net.. Welfare Joe : $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200..00 per year. Welfare Joe pays no taxes. Welfare Joe now has $31,200.00 net. Working Joe pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Working Joe now has $24,031.00 net. Welfare Joe has full medical and dental coverage through Medicaid and local free clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net. Working Joe makes too much money and is not eligible for welfare. Working Joe pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Working Joe now has $18,031 net. Welfare Joe has no documented income and is eligible for welfare. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net. Working Joe pays rent of $1,200..00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Working Joe now has $9,631.00 net. Welfare Joe receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Welfare Joe pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Welfare Joe still has $31,200.00 net. Working Joe pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for auto insurance.. Working Joe now has $7,231...00 net. Welfare Joe says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00 net. Working Joe has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc. Welfare Joe has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, buy gas, prepaid cell phone card, (alcohol/cigarettes) and play at the Casino. Working Joe now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. Welfare Joe has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family & friends. Working Joe and Welfare Joe's children attend the same school. Working Joe pays for his children's lunches while Welfare Joe's children get a government sponsored lunch. Working Joe's children go home after school, while Welfare Joe's children have an after school program provided free. Working Joe and Welfare Joe both enjoy the same police and fire services, but working Joe paid for them with his taxes and Welfare Joe did not. Do you get it, now? YEAH...IT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE ME PUKE....... If you support any politician who supports our welfare system, you are part of the problem! -->

07-16-2012, 05:06 PM	#2
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Joe vs Joe I think that's a little farfetched. Welfare shouldn't be that good and I don't know anyone who does well on welfare. I'm on SSI and that's $650 a month and I get $85 a month with my Lone Star card for food. My medical is free though. I pay for my room and board (at my sis's and I'm legally homeless), no cell phone but the cheapest phone in the house, cheap internet service and cheap TV. I pay for the gas and insurance on my car plus any repairs I'd have to make. I'm not allowed to have assets over $2000 but house and car are exempt. Yeah I got it made. I'd rather be working and have a real life.

07-16-2012, 06:01 PM	#3
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Joe vs Joe willy come to Australia i'm a 28 year vet get a pension for 25 yrs service and its 55% of what someone who has no job and gets the dole will get add rental assistance and its heaps more here they call it sit down money , why get up and work when you get almost as much for not working

07-16-2012, 06:13 PM	#4
Sig Willy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 565	Re: Joe vs Joe Still not right. Welfare is supposed to get us by, not do better than a working man. Someone's screwing the system somewhere.

07-16-2012, 06:43 PM	#5
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Joe vs Joe YES!!! exactly wealth redistribution .. another socialist goal achieved

07-16-2012, 08:27 PM	#8
redwing carson Former Guest Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: western wyoming Posts: 734	Re: Joe vs Joe Problem is the takers are like wild dogs. They want more from the worker and show them no repect. They attack wanting more of what the worker makes. At some point the wild dogs kill the worker.