Marines pick Colt - The Firearms Forum

hstout1143 · 07-22-2012, 07:44 PM

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...?ESRC=dod_C.nl

RunningOnMT · 07-22-2012, 09:51 PM

What better testament to the 1911's reliability. 100 years and still going strong.

hstout1143 · 07-22-2012, 10:25 PM

It says they will be shot out, 15,000-rounds plus. Do they really last that long?

RunningOnMT · 07-23-2012, 12:05 AM

Actually I think 15,000 is quite conservative.

Double D · 07-23-2012, 07:59 AM

I remember shooting a couple 1911s in the army that rattled like crazy when you picked them up, yet they shot just fine. I wouldnt want to try and win any matches with them but I would bet they had their share of rounds thru them.

carver · 07-23-2012, 08:05 AM

Real men shoot real guns! I couldn't help myself, the devil made me do it!

AL MOUNT · 07-23-2012, 08:20 AM

Close Quarter Battle Pistol

Ooooooh that gives me goose bumps... I love it.

I know a bajillion people have been whacked by 9mm. BUT...

they'll bounce right off a ghetto rats head...

... the .45 won't...

Old Guy · 07-24-2012, 07:27 AM

I wonder if they have the plastic triggers and main spring housings? I would hope that they provided metal for durability.

ka64 · 07-24-2012, 09:28 AM

No Surprise Here........

skullfr · 07-24-2012, 11:49 AM

I was at Cark field in the phillipines in the 70's.I bought a 1911 wwII relic off the black market for protection.That thing had a rattle and kinda ugly for most taste but it was well loved.All I could get was ball ammo but we learned how to dr them up a wee bit.That was my fav pistol of my life.It never failed me when I really wanted her too and saved me hiney on more than one occasion.Them old 1911 are just such a great design Thank the Lord for John Browning.

therewolf · 07-24-2012, 12:42 PM

Sounds like the more things change,

the more they stay the same...

Albtraum · 07-28-2012, 05:33 PM

I likey.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Guy

I wonder if they have the plastic triggers and main spring housings? I would hope that they provided metal for durability.

Probably not a big deal, but plastic would help with cost, and weight-savings. Also, plastic won't rust, and there are some very durable plastics out there.

hogger129 · 07-28-2012, 06:17 PM

The 1911 has been around for over 100 years for a reason. Even when there are newer, different designs out there.

3/2 STA SS · 07-28-2012, 06:44 PM

I qualified in 1987 with .45 in the Marines..We went to the 9mm the next year.

graehaven · 07-28-2012, 06:46 PM

So, they went with the lowest bidder then. And the least quality then likely.

Old Guy · 07-29-2012, 09:13 AM

It would interesting to see the test data. I would like to see how well Smith did in the testing.

Old Grump · 07-29-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hstout1143

It says they will be shot out, 15,000-rounds plus. Do they really last that long?

I bought this 45 in 1972 from the Captain of the Navy Blue pistol Team. I don't know how many rounds he had through it but I have around 300,000 rounds through it. Replaced the sights a few times and the bushing and link pin and I lost track of the recoil springs. Replaced the barrel about 5 or 6 years ago because the groups were opening up a little to much.

These are some of the targets I shot last week with it.

Rapid fire at 7 yards:

Slow Fire at 100 yards:

Shoot them, clean them repeat as often as necessary. Replace what needs replacing and it will last longer than you.

My opinion is they are only issuing 12,000 of those guns to the Marines but we have 200,000 in uniform fit for duty and they all should have one. Along with cases of ammo and big blocks of range time to get proficient and stay proficient with them.

graehaven · 07-29-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grump

My opinion is they are only issuing 12,000 of those guns to the Marines but we have 200,000 in uniform fit for duty and they all should have one. Along with cases of ammo and big blocks of range time to get proficient and stay proficient with them.

+1 on that!! Of all the things we spend money on.......

Inthewind1976 · 07-29-2012, 09:48 PM

Hopefully they WILL have metal rather than plastic for trigger and mainspring parts, AND hopefully they will NOT be constructed of the Series 80 style with the passive safety, which is capable of causing the 1911 to misfire - that being said, the US Military did exactly what I have hoped they would do for over 20 years - realize that they replaced a better battle pistol with a lesser one when they replaced the 1911-A1 with the 9mm Beretta. THANK GOD.

skullfr · 07-30-2012, 10:32 AM

Im wondering.The 1911 was developed to fight the Moro tribes in the phillipines because the .38 wasnt getting the job done cause the tribesman were on drugs to give em bravery.I wonder if the same isnt true facing jihadist pumped on heroin or something.

jack404 · 07-30-2012, 11:08 AM

its called Khat its a stick they chew it ..

grown in yemen and somalia and sudan mainly , i seen it here in the islamic area's

tell folks its a herb , yeah right ..

aa1911 · 07-30-2012, 11:51 AM

15k rounds, just sounds like a good weekend! put almost 100k thru my loaded before I sold it to a buddy and it's still 'on the road' spitting lead with no problems. pretty accurate too!

good reason this gun is still around

hogger129 · 07-30-2012, 12:30 PM

Too bad NATO stuck us on 9mm. With ball rounds, .45 ACP is better.

Old Grump · 07-31-2012, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hogger129

Too bad NATO stuck us on 9mm. With ball rounds, .45 ACP is better.

They didn't stick us with anything, the politically motivated panty wearers, (who are the direct descendants of the panty wearers that gave us the M16), gave us the M9. It was about money and PC or as I call it, the effeminization of our military fighting force.

3/2 STA SS · 07-31-2012, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Grump

They didn't stick us with anything, the politically motivated panty wearers, (who are the direct descendants of the panty wearers that gave us the M16), gave us the M9. It was about money and PC or as I call it, the effeminization of our military fighting force.

Amen to that...

07-22-2012, 07:44 PM	#1
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07-22-2012, 09:51 PM	#2
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Marines pick Colt What better testament to the 1911's reliability. 100 years and still going strong. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

07-22-2012, 10:25 PM	#3
hstout1143 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Contributor Posts: 1,743	Re: Marines pick Colt It says they will be shot out, 15,000-rounds plus. Do they really last that long? __________________ NRA Life Member Kids that hunt and fish don't mug old ladies. "Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan "Deo Duce, Ferro Comitante", With God as my leader and my sword as my companion

07-23-2012, 12:05 AM	#4
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: Marines pick Colt Actually I think 15,000 is quite conservative. __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

07-23-2012, 07:59 AM	#5
Double D TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Florida Contributor Posts: 8,085	Re: Marines pick Colt I remember shooting a couple 1911s in the army that rattled like crazy when you picked them up, yet they shot just fine. I wouldnt want to try and win any matches with them but I would bet they had their share of rounds thru them. __________________ I own a bunch of scary guns. You want em? Come and take em..... Liberalism is a serious, non curable, mental disorder... NRA LIFE MEMBER Oath Keepers Member NRA Certified Instructor 30 Yr CC permit holder.

07-23-2012, 08:05 AM	#6
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,294	Re: Marines pick Colt Real men shoot real guns! I couldn't help myself, the devil made me do it! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

07-23-2012, 08:20 AM	#7
AL MOUNT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark Mountains Posts: 3,110	Re: Marines pick Colt Close Quarter Battle Pistol Ooooooh that gives me goose bumps... I love it. I know a bajillion people have been whacked by 9mm. BUT... they'll bounce right off a ghetto rats head...... the .45 won't... __________________ 501st Parachute Infantry Regiment 101st Airborne Division Vietnam 67-68

07-24-2012, 07:27 AM	#8
Old Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beaufort County, NC Contributor Posts: 343	Re: Marines pick Colt I wonder if they have the plastic triggers and main spring housings? I would hope that they provided metal for durability. __________________ Old Guy ___________ NRA Life Member GOA Life Member

07-24-2012, 09:28 AM	#9
ka64 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Michigan Contributor Posts: 1,412	Re: Marines pick Colt No Surprise Here........

07-24-2012, 11:49 AM	#10
skullfr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 902	Re: Marines pick Colt I was at Cark field in the phillipines in the 70's.I bought a 1911 wwII relic off the black market for protection.That thing had a rattle and kinda ugly for most taste but it was well loved.All I could get was ball ammo but we learned how to dr them up a wee bit.That was my fav pistol of my life.It never failed me when I really wanted her too and saved me hiney on more than one occasion.Them old 1911 are just such a great design Thank the Lord for John Browning. __________________ If Ya cant stand up stand out There is no atheist in a foxhole Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the Lord my strength,which teacheth my hand to war and my fingers to fight

07-24-2012, 12:42 PM	#11
therewolf V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Port Richey, Fl. Posts: 166	Re: Marines pick Colt Sounds like the more things change, the more they stay the same...

07-28-2012, 06:17 PM	#13
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,069	Re: Marines pick Colt The 1911 has been around for over 100 years for a reason. Even when there are newer, different designs out there. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."

07-28-2012, 06:44 PM	#14
3/2 STA SS Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL Posts: 1,440	Re: Marines pick Colt I qualified in 1987 with .45 in the Marines..We went to the 9mm the next year. __________________ MORS DE CONTACTUS-DEATH ON CONTACT

07-28-2012, 06:46 PM	#15
graehaven Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,853	Re: Marines pick Colt So, they went with the lowest bidder then. And the least quality then likely. __________________ The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson RESISTANCE IS FEUDAL... PREPARE TO SERVE.

07-29-2012, 09:13 AM	#16
Old Guy V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Beaufort County, NC Contributor Posts: 343	Re: Marines pick Colt It would interesting to see the test data. I would like to see how well Smith did in the testing. __________________ Old Guy ___________ NRA Life Member GOA Life Member

07-29-2012, 09:48 PM	#19
Inthewind1976 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pennsylvania Posts: 533	Re: Marines pick Colt Hopefully they WILL have metal rather than plastic for trigger and mainspring parts, AND hopefully they will NOT be constructed of the Series 80 style with the passive safety, which is capable of causing the 1911 to misfire - that being said, the US Military did exactly what I have hoped they would do for over 20 years - realize that they replaced a better battle pistol with a lesser one when they replaced the 1911-A1 with the 9mm Beretta. THANK GOD.

07-30-2012, 10:32 AM	#20
skullfr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Beaumont,Texas Posts: 902	Re: Marines pick Colt Im wondering.The 1911 was developed to fight the Moro tribes in the phillipines because the .38 wasnt getting the job done cause the tribesman were on drugs to give em bravery.I wonder if the same isnt true facing jihadist pumped on heroin or something. __________________ If Ya cant stand up stand out There is no atheist in a foxhole Psalms 144:1 Blessed be the Lord my strength,which teacheth my hand to war and my fingers to fight

07-30-2012, 11:08 AM	#21
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Marines pick Colt its called Khat its a stick they chew it .. grown in yemen and somalia and sudan mainly , i seen it here in the islamic area's tell folks its a herb , yeah right ..

07-30-2012, 11:51 AM	#22
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: Marines pick Colt 15k rounds, just sounds like a good weekend! put almost 100k thru my loaded before I sold it to a buddy and it's still 'on the road' spitting lead with no problems. pretty accurate too! good reason this gun is still around __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

07-30-2012, 12:30 PM	#23
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,069	Re: Marines pick Colt Too bad NATO stuck us on 9mm. With ball rounds, .45 ACP is better. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can."