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hogger129 · 07-23-2012, 11:31 PM

those of you talking about 100 yards, are you sure you don't mean 100 feet?

anyway, my range has 65 ft lanes so i usually shoot at about 35 - 40 feet. i thought most defensive shoots happen inside 20.

jack404 · 07-23-2012, 11:44 PM

i talk meters , but i'm a UN victim

Zane71464 · 07-24-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by buildit

Well, as of tonight I found a trick that works well for aiming and muzzle control on the glock. Using it I placed 20 rounds on paper at roughly 30ft. It had a weird grouping to it with half in the lower left and the rest upper right.

Is there a common issue that would cause groupings like that? Also, watching myself on video I see I am still flinching.

Any hints from the pros?

I'm no pro by any standards, but if your flinching, your're anticipating the shot.
What may help is dry fireing. "squeeze" the trigger and keep your sight picture and dont anticipate what follows the trigger break.

Dont practice rapid fire until you get that flinch taken care of. Practice squeezing the trigger and keeping your sight picture and dont anticipate the recoil of the shot! If you dont know when the trigger will break, you're less apt to flinch.

Zane71464 · 07-24-2012, 12:20 AM

...yards here. 25,50 and so on...yards.

buildit · 07-24-2012, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zane71464

I'm no pro by any standards, but if your flinching, your're anticipating the shot.
What may help is dry fireing. "squeeze" the trigger and keep your sight picture and dont anticipate what follows the trigger break.

Dont practice rapid fire until you get that flinch taken care of. Practice squeezing the trigger and keeping your sight picture and dont anticipate the recoil of the shot! If you dont know when the trigger will break, you're less apt to flinch.

Cool idea, thanks.

I talk yards, back yard.

carver · 07-24-2012, 06:26 AM

buildit, Zane is giving you good advice, practice dry fire, no flinch, then bring it to the range with live fire. The chart below is called a right hand correction chart. Maybe this will help some. When I first started shooting pistols, I had a lot of the same problems that you do, and so does just about everyone else. A little help from a friend with dry firing the gun, and what to look for went a long way!

carver · 07-24-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hogger129

those of you talking about 100 yards, are you sure you don't mean 100 feet?

anyway, my range has 65 ft lanes so i usually shoot at about 35 - 40 feet. i thought most defensive shoots happen inside 20.

100 yards hogger! "You can hit at 100, 150 or even 200 yards with one–if you are up to it mentally, know your pistol and practice".
http://www.handgunsmag.com/2010/09/2...g_shot_022305/

buildit · 07-24-2012, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by carver

buildit, Zane is giving you good advice, practice dry fire, no flinch, then bring it to the range with live fire. The chart below is called a right hand correction chart. Maybe this will help some. When I first started shooting pistols, I had a lot of the same problems that you do, and so does just about everyone else. A little help from a friend with dry firing the gun, and what to look for went a long way!

Nice, never seen this chart before. You guys are full of good stuff. I'm going to hold you upside down and shake you all to see what drops out like a cartoon.

Seriously, thank you.

CCHolderinMaine · 07-24-2012, 08:05 AM

I shoot my carry gun (Sig 226) all the way out to 100 yards. I don't hit much at 100 yards, but it's sure is rewarding when you connect at that range.

Zane71464 · 07-24-2012, 09:19 AM

Excellent chart Carver!
I was with the CCW instuctor on the last class and watched as the shooters was doing their shooting part of the class. Alot of new, first time shoters there. I'd watch as the where about to squeeze off a round and alot where at the 6'oclock on your chart.
After a few times with the instuctor showing/teaching, they went to the 11'oclock on the chart and in time, they all was spot on.

Old Grump · 07-24-2012, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hogger129

those of you talking about 100 yards, are you sure you don't mean 100 feet?

anyway, my range has 65 ft lanes so i usually shoot at about 35 - 40 feet. i thought most defensive shoots happen inside 20.

Porch light is on and the coffee is always hot at the little hut in the woods. Drag your désolé cul up here and by the end of the day I will have you hitting the target at 100 yards and scaring the bejesus out of it at 200 yards.

100' ..... le coup de pied au cul!!!

aa1911 · 07-24-2012, 02:36 PM

look up '400 yard glock shooting' on youtube, guy gets rounds on target, no kidding!

Carver, excellent write-up in the link you provided above.

aa1911 · 07-24-2012, 03:34 PM

but then there's this brilliant fella...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WD43dKI2ug

700 yards guy? A 7.62 NATO wouldn't even travel that fast not to mention the report sounds like it's less than 100m away. Nice try though...

buildit · 07-24-2012, 04:36 PM

What size target are people talking about when shooting? I'm using 8.5 X 11 sheets of paper (8 inch diameter targets) at 30ft.

carver · 07-24-2012, 04:51 PM

B-27
Target Paper
35" x 45"
50 Yard
Police Pistol Silhouette

I also shoot steel.

MSGT-R · 07-24-2012, 05:00 PM

Carver; thanks for that target chart!

During the Western Matches, we shot out to 50 yrds with our .45s with no problem.
My .380 is not nearly as accurate that that distance. Just not enough "poop" in the pop.

buildit · 07-24-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MSGT-R

Carver; thanks for that target chart!

During the Western Matches, we shot out to 50 yrds with our .45s with no problem.
My .380 is not nearly as accurate that that distance. Just not enough "poop" in the pop.

That reminds me of a few years ago when a friend brought his HK91 and .45 cal semi auto out to shoot. At that point I didn't have an apple tree blocking the 300 ft shot from the back deck to the backstop. When we checked the targets I found a bullet laying on the mound! It was a poor impression of the real effective distance of the .45cal round. But in retrospect I have no idea what grain he was shooting.

berto64 · 07-24-2012, 06:27 PM

"100 yds" before my right eye went all blurry on me. No kidding, a 12" paper plate at 100yds. If I hit it at all a man will die. Good ol 1911s.

Zane71464 · 07-24-2012, 07:14 PM

At 25 yards, my target is a piece of notebook sized carboard (about) with a black
1" circle as the P.O.A.. Usually about 1-1/2 - 3" groups, depending on caliber and hand gun.
50 [U]yards, a 4" black circle on a white carboard.

Archie · 07-24-2012, 08:37 PM

From shooting 2700 Bullseye and PPC, shooting at 50 yards is pretty normal. I haven't done it for a while, but putting some rounds at the B27 target shown by Carver gives me scoring ring hits with my H&K USP40c. It isn't a target pistol, and I'm shooting two handed, but connecting with the target is not such a hard trick.

I also do some draw and fire exercises at closer ranges.

Ladies and Gentlemen, look at my photo. Do I look like some sort of Superman character? Does that tie conceal a Navy SEAL or Army Ranger? Nope, just a Marine infantryman of long ago; suffering from too many heartbreaks, too many calories and not enough exercise.

If I can hit at 50 yards, so can any of you who have functioning eyes, hands and arms. If you don't think you can, work at it and think again! America was founded on the desire for excellence! Be excellent!

aa1911 · 07-24-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by HossFly

You shot a deer with a freekin glock?
With low power reloads no less?
I'd like to gut shoot your dumass & watch you bleed out-
Your a dickwad!

Oh yeah- You don't know shet about the 7.62 NATO - Of course thats obvious to those of us that have actually used them--

Really? I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to respond to this ^^ but here's the short version for your reading pleasure...

I'm not sure what's wrong with shooting a deer? It's legal to hunt here with a handgun as long as it's .24 cal or larger and 4" barrel minimum. My .458 win mag was the intended impliment but it was not handy at the time; the deer lived all of like 30 seconds max. That's better than some rifle shots I've seen. The load was 4.0gns of Clays behind a 165gn HP.

norahc · 07-24-2012, 11:22 PM

Every time I go to the range, I make a point to shoot at least one mag at 100 yards. I try to do it with the first mag, because it helps me focus on my trigger control, and my accuracy is improving. I've gone from 1/10 rounds on a 6 inch target to 4/10 pretty consistently.

RunningOnMT · 07-25-2012, 10:21 AM

I'm not buying the 700 yd .40 cal handgun shot either. The drop on that bullet would require an elevation greater than the capability of any sighting device made, in order to hit a target at 700 yds. JMO though. What do I know?

therewolf · 07-25-2012, 11:02 AM

My carry guns are full-size pistols. IMO, you should have proficiency out to

25 yards, but most actual S/D events happen at 3-7 feet.

But many times, at the range, 100 yard plinking happens...

Old Grump · 07-25-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by buildit

What size target are people talking about when shooting? I'm using 8.5 X 11 sheets of paper (8 inch diameter targets) at 30ft.

My 100 yard pistol and revolver target, 11"x17" with 7" bull:

100 yard rifle target, 8"x11" with 1" bull:

15 and 25 yard target for revolver and pistols, 8"x11" with 4" bull:

View Poll Results: Longest distance you shoot a carry gun?
10 yards	6	15.00%
15 yards	5	12.50%
25 yards	14	35.00%
30 yards plus	15	37.50%
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07-23-2012, 11:31 PM	#26
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,067	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun those of you talking about 100 yards, are you sure you don't mean 100 feet? anyway, my range has 65 ft lanes so i usually shoot at about 35 - 40 feet. i thought most defensive shoots happen inside 20. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 07-23-2012 at 11:34 PM..

07-23-2012, 11:44 PM	#27
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun i talk meters , but i'm a UN victim

07-24-2012, 12:20 AM	#29
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun ...yards here. 25,50 and so on...yards. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

07-24-2012, 06:26 AM	#31
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,288	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun buildit, Zane is giving you good advice, practice dry fire, no flinch, then bring it to the range with live fire. The chart below is called a right hand correction chart. Maybe this will help some. When I first started shooting pistols, I had a lot of the same problems that you do, and so does just about everyone else. A little help from a friend with dry firing the gun, and what to look for went a long way! Attached Images __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

07-24-2012, 08:05 AM	#34
CCHolderinMaine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Steep Falls, Maine Contributor Posts: 644	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun I shoot my carry gun (Sig 226) all the way out to 100 yards. I don't hit much at 100 yards, but it's sure is rewarding when you connect at that range.

07-24-2012, 09:19 AM	#35
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun Excellent chart Carver! I was with the CCW instuctor on the last class and watched as the shooters was doing their shooting part of the class. Alot of new, first time shoters there. I'd watch as the where about to squeeze off a round and alot where at the 6'oclock on your chart. After a few times with the instuctor showing/teaching, they went to the 11'oclock on the chart and in time, they all was spot on. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

07-24-2012, 02:36 PM	#37
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun look up '400 yard glock shooting' on youtube, guy gets rounds on target, no kidding! Carver, excellent write-up in the link you provided above. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

07-24-2012, 03:34 PM	#38
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun but then there's this brilliant fella... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WD43dKI2ug 700 yards guy? A 7.62 NATO wouldn't even travel that fast not to mention the report sounds like it's less than 100m away. Nice try though... __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

07-24-2012, 04:36 PM	#39
buildit Former Guest Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Cowtown, ohia Posts: 96	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun What size target are people talking about when shooting? I'm using 8.5 X 11 sheets of paper (8 inch diameter targets) at 30ft.

07-24-2012, 04:51 PM	#40
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,288	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun B-27 Target Paper 35" x 45" 50 Yard Police Pistol Silhouette I also shoot steel. Attached Images __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

07-24-2012, 05:00 PM	#41
MSGT-R Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: SoCal Posts: 901	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun Carver; thanks for that target chart! During the Western Matches, we shot out to 50 yrds with our .45s with no problem. My .380 is not nearly as accurate that that distance. Just not enough "poop" in the pop. __________________ If you suck, go back to the range. Last edited by MSGT-R; 07-24-2012 at 05:04 PM..

07-24-2012, 06:27 PM	#43
berto64 VMBB Admin Staff Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Owyhee County, Idaho Contributor Posts: 7,388	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun "100 yds" before my right eye went all blurry on me. No kidding, a 12" paper plate at 100yds. If I hit it at all a man will die. Good ol 1911s. __________________ Be who you are & say what you will, Those that matter won't mind and those that mind don't matter. I'm a bitter clinger, One Nation Under God.

07-24-2012, 07:14 PM	#44
Zane71464 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ohio NRA Member Contributor Posts: 5,371	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun At 25 yards, my target is a piece of notebook sized carboard (about) with a black 1" circle as the P.O.A.. Usually about 1-1/2 - 3" groups, depending on caliber and hand gun. 50 [U]yards, a 4" black circle on a white carboard. __________________ Two Words; "Simple Man", song by Charlie Daniels sums up my thoughts on a "few things"!

07-24-2012, 08:37 PM	#45
Archie V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hastings, Nebraska; the Heartland! Posts: 294	What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun? From shooting 2700 Bullseye and PPC, shooting at 50 yards is pretty normal. I haven't done it for a while, but putting some rounds at the B27 target shown by Carver gives me scoring ring hits with my H&K USP40c. It isn't a target pistol, and I'm shooting two handed, but connecting with the target is not such a hard trick. I also do some draw and fire exercises at closer ranges. Ladies and Gentlemen, look at my photo. Do I look like some sort of Superman character? Does that tie conceal a Navy SEAL or Army Ranger? Nope, just a Marine infantryman of long ago; suffering from too many heartbreaks, too many calories and not enough exercise. If I can hit at 50 yards, so can any of you who have functioning eyes, hands and arms. If you don't think you can, work at it and think again! America was founded on the desire for excellence! Be excellent! __________________ Be at Peace; go forth, spread enlightenment and joy to all. Wear clean underwear and take a gun. http://oldmanmontgomery.wordpress.com/ for my thoughts...

07-25-2012, 10:21 AM	#48
RunningOnMT Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, Ohio Contributor Posts: 4,720	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun I'm not buying the 700 yd .40 cal handgun shot either. The drop on that bullet would require an elevation greater than the capability of any sighting device made, in order to hit a target at 700 yds. JMO though. What do I know? __________________ "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!"

07-25-2012, 11:02 AM	#49
therewolf V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Port Richey, Fl. Posts: 163	Re: What is the longest distance you shoot your carry gun My carry guns are full-size pistols. IMO, you should have proficiency out to 25 yards, but most actual S/D events happen at 3-7 feet. But many times, at the range, 100 yard plinking happens... Last edited by therewolf; 07-25-2012 at 11:03 AM..