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Old 07-26-2012, 09:31 PM   #1
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Default What do all these events have in common?

Aurora
Columbine
Virginia Tech
Luby's
San Ysidro
Stockton
Dunblane
Hungerford
Utoya Island (Norway)
Cumbria

They have several things in common. The first is that obviously, multiple people were killed in each of these places.
The second, is the places where these events happened, already had gun laws ranging from strict to VERY strict in place, yet these events still happened.
Third, and I think most importantly, none of the victims were able to fight back and protect themselves. They were unarmed. They were unarmed because they obeyed the Law. The Laws that were passed supposedly to 'protect 'them.


So you see, Mr. Liberal anti-gunner, your beliefs, your ideology, your passing of laws restricting the rights of people to protect themselves ...KILLED these people!
YOU are as much responsible for their deaths as the scum who were actually pulling the trigger.

The deaths of these innocents serve as the strongest argument possible for any responsible person to be able to carry a weapon with which to defend his life. One good armed Man or Woman would have almost assuredly made a difference. There still might have been a body count, but almost assuredly, it would have been a lot less.

Mr. Liberal gun hater politician, the blood of the innocents is on your hands.
But you are a fool, so you will never realize this.



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Old 07-26-2012, 09:41 PM   #2
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Well said.

A+ for you.

F- for the stupid mr. liberal gun hater.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:05 PM   #3
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Well put.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:50 AM   #5
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Well said, but how do we get the libs to understand? They want to blame people like the NRA. I don't get it.
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:59 AM   #6
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how do you whistle and applaud loudly here ??
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:00 AM   #7
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This is from the NY Daily News! The only thing I found wrong in this article is the fact that the author still thinks James Holmes was wearing body armor.
Concealed weapons save lives
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/c...icle-1.1121161
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:09 PM   #8
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #9
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Well said, but how do we get the libs to understand? They want to blame people like the NRA. I don't get it.
They're not interested in facts or logic. They have an agenda to fulfill. Nothing will deter them from that, least of all, truth.

They are not fools, but they are cowards. They are the worst of society. When it comes right down to it, they advocate genocide. They need to be eradicated from the planet, period.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:54 PM   #10
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The conclusion is obvious for most gunowners. Those on the other side will still say, ''See there, we have to get rid of all those guns". Of course you can never get rid of all the guns, so their answer is nullified.

As a gun owner, carrier, advocate, etc.....Do you still carry, when the ''law'' forbids though? When you pay attention, and look, carefully observe, it is amazing how many concealed weapons there are out there.

I personally find the permits to be repulsive, and mostly think that the fear of taking away our guns, just gives ''them'' more power to tax. Tax, tax, tax, under the guiles of control of guns. It does do a good job of keeping the poor from being able to be legal.



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Old 07-27-2012, 02:18 PM   #11
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Well said.

A+ for you.

F- for the stupid mr. liberal gun hater.
Yeah....what he said.

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Old 07-27-2012, 10:47 PM   #12
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I can walk to the movie theater where this happened in less than an hour. I hadn't been home from work long when I heard the sirens. (Sirens are a regular occurrence here, so didn't think much of it) Next morning when I turned on the computer, there it was. Shocking, to say the least. And "gun control" is supposed to keep us safe? True gun control is hitting what you aim at.
These restrictive gun laws are, at best, unconstitutional. At worst, those who passed these laws should be marked as (felons?)
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:16 PM   #13
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I can walk to the movie theater where this happened in less than an hour. I hadn't been home from work long when I heard the sirens. (Sirens are a regular occurrence here, so didn't think much of it) Next morning when I turned on the computer, there it was. Shocking, to say the least. And "gun control" is supposed to keep us safe? True gun control is hitting what you aim at.
These restrictive gun laws are, at best, unconstitutional. At worst, those who passed these laws should be marked as (felons?)
Those who wrote, passed and enforced those laws have blood on their hands.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:36 AM   #14
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the biggest arguement anti's have is that good people with guns can flip in an instant.
their thought process is to remove all guns so that when good people flip, they wont have a gun to use.
unless you stab the beast in the heart and address THAT main issue of the anti's, you can debate all day with facts and get nowhere.

that theme will never work. we know that.
but the pro gun movement will never totally work either unless each one of us finds the answer to mans heart and fixes mans heart.
may the challenge begin.

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I know that this is a different thread, but it does go here. Great news! The NRA successfully blocked the un treaty garbage. It is dead, at least for now. I got the email this morning.
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I know that this is a different thread, but it does go here. Great news! The NRA successfully blocked the un treaty garbage. It is dead, at least for now. I got the email this morning.
"Standing up for Montanans’ Second Amendment rights, Senator Jon Tester today successfully blocked government funding from being used to advance the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty". http://www.tester.senate.gov/Newsroo...rms_treaty.cfm

They only blocked funding! That's a far cry form Obozo making it law!
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"Standing up for Montanans’ Second Amendment rights, Senator Jon Tester today successfully blocked government funding from being used to advance the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty". http://www.tester.senate.gov/Newsroo...rms_treaty.cfm

They only blocked funding! That's a far cry form Obozo making it law!
The email I got said that they stopped the treaty.
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The email I got said that they stopped the treaty.
Read again, what Senator Tester reported on his web site. "Standing up for Montanans’ Second Amendment rights, Senator Jon Tester today successfully blocked government funding from being used to advance the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty".
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:47 AM   #20
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The Libturds have no self control and are afraid they might shoot some one in a fit of rage so they think everyone is like they are. They have no common sense so they think no one else does. See a picture forming, this is why you can't argue with them. They are mentally flawed and believe everyone else is. jmho

Also gun free zones = killing zones for the nut jobs or insane

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Old 07-29-2012, 01:00 PM   #21
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Here is one of the most important things to think about.....

These anti gun laws are submitted and voted on people that work in buildings where they have armed security guards.....they go home to their rich neighborhoods where they have extravagant houses with high tech alarm systems and I would bet they have security guards patrolling their neighborhoods.

They have no idea what it is like in the real world....they are so out of touch with reality it stinks. They could care less about the ordinary serfs out there that have to wait 30 minutes or more for a police officer to arrive at their house, business, .....the scene of the crime. It is of no concern to them if we die or a family member dies because we cannot protect them or ourselves.

All they want to do is make sure that while they are screwing us, we have no way stand up to them and fight for our rights and country back.

I say to hell with all of them............they are all scumbags.
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