Here it comes.... - The Firearms Forum

outburst402 · 07-30-2012, 10:32 PM

Saw this story.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...193011379.html

I wonder- 1) in CO, does your CCW permit only work in the county it is issued? Sounds unlikely. 2) An "Open-Carry Municipality" has a law stating "It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly possess on or about the person or within such person's immediate reach any dangerous weapon."

Alpo · 07-31-2012, 06:15 AM

I don't know about Colorado, but here in Florida, before Mr. Johnson pushed through our current law, a carry permit cost 150 dollars, it was only good for one year, it was only good in the county of issuance and you had to explain to the County Commissioners why you NEEDED a permit to carry a gun. And 150 dollars, back then, was quite a bit of money. Minimum, at the time, was 2.00, so that was two-weeks pay.

jstgsn · 07-31-2012, 07:33 AM

I looked into getting a concealed carry permit for a friend here in Delaware. The class cost around $250, and the additional costs of filing, newspaper ad (you have to run and ad to see if anyone objects) and other stuff is another $250.
Five hundred dollars to get a permit. Disgusting.

carver · 07-31-2012, 08:34 AM

Either we have 2nd Amendment rights, or we don't! Which is it? CO, and some other states say we don't, even though the Supreme Court says we do? Folks need to stand up for their rights, just like this guy did.

hogger129 · 07-31-2012, 09:11 AM

So what was this man supposed to do? Go to a movie theater, unarmed, even though a shooting had just occurred at one? I don't know about you, but I thought self defense was a human right, and I thought the right to keep and bear arms was protected by the United States Constitution. In my opinion, your rights don't stop at your property line. You have a right to free speech, you have a right to legal representation, the right to freely practice your religious beliefs. Why should your right to keep and bear arms end at your doorstep? The law that this town of Thornton, Colorado, has is unconstitutional. It restricts this man's Second Amendment rights enumerated in the Constitution.

How come a state, or a town in this instance, can override Federal law with regard to the carrying of arms, yet when a state tries to pass a law to fight illegal aliens coming in, it is unconstitutional because it overrides Federal law? Seems like they want to have their cake and eat it too.

I like the law we have here in Wisconsin. You take the class, pay for the permit, your criminal record is checked, if you come up clean, the DOJ mails you a permit. I'm pretty sure it's good for 5 years. It's valid throughout the State of Wisconsin. I'm also pretty sure that if you have a valid permit in your state of residence, it is honored in Wisconsin as well. You can pretty much carry into anywhere except police stations, courthouses, or places with no gun signs.

I think it's kind of silly we can open carry with no permit, yet we need a permit to conceal carry, but hey it's better than if that idiot Tom Barrett would have won and either vetoed the legislation like Doyle, or would have passed that "may issue" BS like California has.

07-30-2012, 10:32 PM	#1
outburst402 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 27	Here it comes.... Saw this story. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...193011379.html I wonder- 1) in CO, does your CCW permit only work in the county it is issued? Sounds unlikely. 2) An "Open-Carry Municipality" has a law stating "It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly possess on or about the person or within such person's immediate reach any dangerous weapon." -->

07-31-2012, 06:15 AM	#2
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,772	Re: Here it comes.... I don't know about Colorado, but here in Florida, before Mr. Johnson pushed through our current law, a carry permit cost 150 dollars, it was only good for one year, it was only good in the county of issuance and you had to explain to the County Commissioners why you NEEDED a permit to carry a gun. And 150 dollars, back then, was quite a bit of money. Minimum, at the time, was 2.00, so that was two-weeks pay. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

07-31-2012, 07:33 AM	#3
jstgsn Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Milford, Delaware Contributor Posts: 1,314	Re: Here it comes.... I looked into getting a concealed carry permit for a friend here in Delaware. The class cost around $250, and the additional costs of filing, newspaper ad (you have to run and ad to see if anyone objects) and other stuff is another $250. Five hundred dollars to get a permit. Disgusting. __________________ Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he will just kill you.

07-31-2012, 08:34 AM	#4
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,542	Re: Here it comes.... Either we have 2nd Amendment rights, or we don't! Which is it? CO, and some other states say we don't, even though the Supreme Court says we do? Folks need to stand up for their rights, just like this guy did. __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

07-31-2012, 09:11 AM	#5
hogger129 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,078	Re: Here it comes.... So what was this man supposed to do? Go to a movie theater, unarmed, even though a shooting had just occurred at one? I don't know about you, but I thought self defense was a human right, and I thought the right to keep and bear arms was protected by the United States Constitution. In my opinion, your rights don't stop at your property line. You have a right to free speech, you have a right to legal representation, the right to freely practice your religious beliefs. Why should your right to keep and bear arms end at your doorstep? The law that this town of Thornton, Colorado, has is unconstitutional. It restricts this man's Second Amendment rights enumerated in the Constitution. How come a state, or a town in this instance, can override Federal law with regard to the carrying of arms, yet when a state tries to pass a law to fight illegal aliens coming in, it is unconstitutional because it overrides Federal law? Seems like they want to have their cake and eat it too. I like the law we have here in Wisconsin. You take the class, pay for the permit, your criminal record is checked, if you come up clean, the DOJ mails you a permit. I'm pretty sure it's good for 5 years. It's valid throughout the State of Wisconsin. I'm also pretty sure that if you have a valid permit in your state of residence, it is honored in Wisconsin as well. You can pretty much carry into anywhere except police stations, courthouses, or places with no gun signs. I think it's kind of silly we can open carry with no permit, yet we need a permit to conceal carry, but hey it's better than if that idiot Tom Barrett would have won and either vetoed the legislation like Doyle, or would have passed that "may issue" BS like California has. __________________ Samuel Adams once said, "among the natural rights of the colonists are these: first, a right to life, secondly to liberty, thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can." Last edited by hogger129; 07-31-2012 at 09:21 AM..