ID to vote

hstout1143 · 08-07-2012, 11:18 PM

Ok, I live in California, which will be the very last state to require ID to vote, if they ever do require it, which I doubt. I wish it were the law of the land to show ID to vote, but a friend of mine that lives in a state that requires ID said that because he changed his affiliation and was required to complete a provisional ballot for people who didn't provide ID (He did). He explained that he in fact had ID which was acknowledged but the folks made him fill out the provisional ballot envelope. So now, if and when his vote is counted, the personnel at the County Clerk's office will know who he voted for. Is this the way it is on all provisional ballots? I don't think anyone should know who I vote for unless I tell them.

jack404 · 08-07-2012, 11:28 PM

with the new computers they'll know how everyone voted , and that wont mean a damn as they can then make your vote do what they want ...

bakerconch · 08-08-2012, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jack404

with the new computers they'll know how everyone voted , and that wont mean a damn as they can then make your vote do what they want ...

Sad to say but you may be right Jack.
I have been sceptical of our voting system for a long time now. But I feel that
I still have to vote with my own morals in mind. If the vote total is manipulated one way or the other, although that is corrupt and wrong, at least I put in the effort to make a change according to my beliefs.

Alpo · 08-08-2012, 07:20 AM

Got a thing in the mail, t'other day. Telling me what precinct I'm in and where to vote. Said I needed ID. IDs accepted were:

Drivers License
State-issued ID card
Passport
Military ID

Those four are fine.

Student ID
Credit or Debit Card
Retirement Center ID
Public Assistance ID

Not so sure about those four. When I was in college I didn't have to PROVE who I was. Just said, "I'm John Smith and want to enroll" and they said "Twenty-five dollars an hour", and issued me a card that said John Smith.

You can get, pretty much, any name you want on a credit card, long as you pay the bill.

This one I love.
Neighborhood Association ID. What the hell is that?

I figger it should be state-issued ID only. Not even a passport, because mine says I'm a US citizen, but it does not say I'm a Florida resident. If I'm not a Florida resident, I should not be voting in a Florida election.

You don't drive, so don't have a license? Fine. Get your butt down to the DMV and get a free, FREE, FREE (as in "it don't cost nothin'") State ID Card.

wv hillbilly · 08-08-2012, 07:28 AM

voter registration card should be required

flintlock · 08-08-2012, 07:29 AM

State ID's are available to any citizen, and in some states, any non'citizen that wants one. The crap from Washington about ID being the same as a "poll tax" is exactly that, crap.

carver · 08-08-2012, 07:47 AM

At its birth, the United States was not a democratic nation—far from it. It was a Republic! The very word "democracy" had pejorative overtones, summoning up images of disorder, government by the unfit, even mob rule. (Oh really) In practice, moreover, relatively few of the nation's inhabitants were able to participate in elections: among the excluded were most African Americans, Native Americans, women, men who had not attained their majority, and white males who did not own land. Why? Because only these few had anything at stake in an election!

DixieLandMan · 08-08-2012, 08:04 AM

Some people here are upset about having to show an ID. I guess the dead people voting are the ones against it. The lady that checks my ID, I've known for 25 years and dated her daughter. I asked her why she checks my ID, just being curious, she said that way if someone asks her she can say that she checks everyones ID. No problem with me.

firefighter1635 · 08-08-2012, 04:29 PM

In Ohio i've ALWAYS had to show my drivers liscense to vote. I cant understand NOT having to.

gvw3 · 08-08-2012, 04:45 PM

Here you don't need to show anything. You do need to be a registered to vote. At some time you do need to go some place to register and show an id. After that nothing.

hstout1143 · 08-08-2012, 06:24 PM

Here in Los Angeles you can request registration paperwork on the internet. They'll mail it to any assess you want, just type in the name you want to register under.

08-07-2012, 11:18 PM	#1
hstout1143 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Contributor Posts: 1,729	ID to vote Ok, I live in California, which will be the very last state to require ID to vote, if they ever do require it, which I doubt. I wish it were the law of the land to show ID to vote, but a friend of mine that lives in a state that requires ID said that because he changed his affiliation and was required to complete a provisional ballot for people who didn't provide ID (He did). He explained that he in fact had ID which was acknowledged but the folks made him fill out the provisional ballot envelope. So now, if and when his vote is counted, the personnel at the County Clerk's office will know who he voted for. Is this the way it is on all provisional ballots? I don't think anyone should know who I vote for unless I tell them. __________________ NRA Life Member Kids that hunt and fish don't mug old ladies. "Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan "Deo Duce, Ferro Comitante", With God as my leader and my sword as my companion -->

08-07-2012, 11:28 PM	#2
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: ID to vote with the new computers they'll know how everyone voted , and that wont mean a damn as they can then make your vote do what they want ...

08-08-2012, 07:20 AM	#4
Alpo Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NW Florida Posts: 8,647	Re: ID to vote Got a thing in the mail, t'other day. Telling me what precinct I'm in and where to vote. Said I needed ID. IDs accepted were: Drivers License State-issued ID card Passport Military ID Those four are fine. Student ID Credit or Debit Card Retirement Center ID Public Assistance ID Not so sure about those four. When I was in college I didn't have to PROVE who I was. Just said, "I'm John Smith and want to enroll" and they said "Twenty-five dollars an hour", and issued me a card that said John Smith. You can get, pretty much, any name you want on a credit card, long as you pay the bill. This one I love. Neighborhood Association ID. What the hell is that? I figger it should be state-issued ID only. Not even a passport, because mine says I'm a US citizen, but it does not say I'm a Florida resident. If I'm not a Florida resident, I should not be voting in a Florida election. You don't drive, so don't have a license? Fine. Get your butt down to the DMV and get a free, FREE, FREE (as in "it don't cost nothin'") State ID Card. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297 I always take precautions. Beware the Evil Bullet Fairies.

08-08-2012, 07:28 AM	#5
wv hillbilly Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: mountains of wv. Posts: 2,016	Re: ID to vote voter registration card should be required Last edited by wv hillbilly; 08-08-2012 at 07:31 AM..

08-08-2012, 07:29 AM	#6
flintlock Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Upstate NY Contributor Posts: 896	Re: ID to vote State ID's are available to any citizen, and in some states, any non'citizen that wants one. The crap from Washington about ID being the same as a "poll tax" is exactly that, crap.

08-08-2012, 07:47 AM	#7
carver TFF Moderator/Host Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of East Texas, just west of Shreveport, LA Contributor Posts: 11,214	Re: ID to vote At its birth, the United States was not a democratic nation—far from it. It was a Republic! The very word "democracy" had pejorative overtones, summoning up images of disorder, government by the unfit, even mob rule. (Oh really) In practice, moreover, relatively few of the nation's inhabitants were able to participate in elections: among the excluded were most African Americans, Native Americans, women, men who had not attained their majority, and white males who did not own land. Why? Because only these few had anything at stake in an election! __________________ Y'all be safe now, ya hear! Lamentations Chapter 5: 1. Remember, O LORD, what is come upon us: consider, and behold our reproach. 2. Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens. 3. We are orphans and fatherless, our mothers [are] as widows. 5. Our necks [are] under persecution: we labour, [and] have no rest. 16. The crown is fallen [from] our head: woe unto us, that we have sinned! 21. Turn thou us unto thee, O LORD, and we shall be turned; renew our days as of old.

08-08-2012, 08:04 AM	#8
DixieLandMan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 603	Re: ID to vote Some people here are upset about having to show an ID. I guess the dead people voting are the ones against it. The lady that checks my ID, I've known for 25 years and dated her daughter. I asked her why she checks my ID, just being curious, she said that way if someone asks her she can say that she checks everyones ID. No problem with me.

08-08-2012, 04:29 PM	#9
firefighter1635 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US of A Contributor Posts: 1,837	Re: ID to vote In Ohio i've ALWAYS had to show my drivers liscense to vote. I cant understand NOT having to.

08-08-2012, 04:45 PM	#10
gvw3 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago IL Area Contributor Posts: 3,237	Re: ID to vote Here you don't need to show anything. You do need to be a registered to vote. At some time you do need to go some place to register and show an id. After that nothing. __________________ Criminals advocate stronger gun laws to foster a safer work environment. This limits their exposure to risk.

08-08-2012, 06:24 PM	#11
hstout1143 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: California Contributor Posts: 1,729	Re: ID to vote Here in Los Angeles you can request registration paperwork on the internet. They'll mail it to any assess you want, just type in the name you want to register under. __________________ NRA Life Member Kids that hunt and fish don't mug old ladies. "Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." - Ronald Reagan "Deo Duce, Ferro Comitante", With God as my leader and my sword as my companion