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Old 08-19-2012, 09:12 PM   #26
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Lucky! My boys and I play airsoft and paintball all the time too. But i dont get paid.. Just whelped.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:16 PM   #27
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True story. When I was in my early teens my father shot my brother with a wax bullet on purpose. My brother was kneeling with his pants tight against his leg and my father wanted to see what would happen so he shot my brother. My brother let out a yell and then my father looked at me with the gun in his hand and I tore off out of the house. Later when I snuck through the door my brother was sitting there eating a big banana split because my dad felt bad for doing that to him. I don't think my brother really ever forgave him for that and I am sure my father has always regretted it.
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Old 08-19-2012, 09:18 PM   #28
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Sorry to be a party pooper but what some of you here are recommending is just not a good idea. Wax or no wax, just stick to the official load tables with standard bullets and go to a range. JLA I cant believe you condone shooting each other with a gun no matter what is loaded in it.....!!!! This is exactly how **** happens.
They make rubber training bullets that are designed to be fired with a primer only. they are cheap and reusable. Using a paraffin wax plug is the very same thing and cheap. But you cant reuse the wax plug. it usually becomes very flat after hitting whatever you shoot with it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/257...eter-box-of-50

And they also come in .48 and .45 cal too.
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Old 08-19-2012, 11:18 PM   #29
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JLA, we use SAAB gear or MILES here for training and drills. It's a blast. It really makes things interesting. I wish we could use simunitions so we could have some impact with it. The laser is better for distance, but you would get better reactions if they were getting pelted.

We go paintballing every once in a while. Wish I could afford to do more of that. That paint is expensive. I got a Tippmann A5 a while back.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:28 AM   #30
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They make rubber training bullets that are designed to be fired with a primer only. they are cheap and reusable. Using a paraffin wax plug is the very same thing and cheap. But you cant reuse the wax plug. it usually becomes very flat after hitting whatever you shoot with it.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/257...eter-box-of-50

And they also come in .48 and .45 cal too.
I think I'll order me some. They sound like fun.

When you use rubber bullets, does the primer provide enough energy to cycle the action; or will that still have to be done manually?
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Old 08-20-2012, 10:37 PM   #31
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They are. But you will lose them if youre like me. Which is why i keep a few boxes of paraffin handy. Just prime the case and mash the casemouth thru the block. Makes a perfect wadcutter shaped wax bullet.
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They make rubber training bullets that are designed to be fired with a primer only. they are cheap and reusable. Using a paraffin wax plug is the very same thing and cheap. But you cant reuse the wax plug. it usually becomes very flat after hitting whatever you shoot with it.
These wax and rubber primer only ideas are exactly what I was looking for. A few rounds or a full cylinder fired with these will provide a good way of examining things like alignment with 'live' fire after having measured everything and allow for a new microscopic check of metal with having some minimal stress on it. All this without using a standard load that could have serious consequences if anything at all was missed in the restoration.

This is the perfect solution for the testing I want to do. Thanks guys who thought of it and posted it back for me. It is this 'final' testing phase I was looking for before using full loads and I probably posed the question wrong to begin with.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:54 AM   #33
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I think I'll order me some. They sound like fun.

When you use rubber bullets, does the primer provide enough energy to cycle the action; or will that still have to be done manually?
Oh i missed that last part. They will not cycle the action of any auto. They are far too low powered. And it is a good idea to enlarge the flash hole a bit to keep the primer from backing out. tho it doesnt hurt anything for it to back out a little.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:40 AM   #34
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The wax bullets are also the way to go if you want to practice your fast draw! A mishap won't put you in the hospital, or the grave! They are cheap to make, and fun to shoot, even in the house!
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careful myles. were condoning unsafe habits shooting guns in the house.
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