Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally - The Firearms Forum

jack404 · 09-11-2012, 10:24 PM

Cairo -- Angry protesters attacked U.S.
diplomatic compounds in Libya and Egypt on Tuesday, citing in both
instances an online film considered offensive to Islam.
In Cairo, several men
scaled the walls of the U.S. Embassy and tore down its American flag,
according to CNN producer Mohammed Fahmy, who was on the scene.
In Libya, witnesses say
members of a radical Islamist group called Ansar al-Sharia protested
near the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where NATO jets established no-fly
zones last year to blunt ground attacks from then Libyan strongman
Moammar Gadhafi.
The group then clashed with security forces in the city, blocking roads leading to the consulate, witnesses said.

The Libyan government
notified the United States that an employee at the U.S. Consulate was
killed, a State Department official told CNN.
The State Department does
not have independent confirmation of the death, the official said. The
nationality of the worker was not immediately known.
In Egypt, police and army
personnel formed defensive lines around the U.S. Embassy in an effort
to prevent demonstrators from advancing, but not before the protesters
affixed a black flag atop a ladder in the American compound.
The black flag, which
hangs in full view from inside the complex, is adorned with white
characters that read, "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his
messenger," an emblem often used by Islamic radicals.
A volley of warning shots
were fired as a large crowd gathered around the compound, although it
is not clear who fired the shots.

Egyptian groups point to
U.S. websites, including YouTube, that have scenes from the film. Some
anti-Muslim blogs also have flagged the movie.
In a series of disjointed scenes, filmmakers depict Prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer.

Most of the Muslim world considers depictions of Mohammed to be blasphemous and deeply offensive.

It was not clear late Tuesday who produced the film and under what auspices.

Embassy officials issued
a warning to Americans in Egypt, telling them to avoid the
demonstrations which "may gather in front of the U.S. Embassy, or
Egyptian government buildings such as the People's Assembly and Ministry
of Interior."
"It is unclear if large
numbers will take to the streets, but clashes may occur should two
opposing groups come into contact with one another," the U.S. Embassy
said in a statement. "Large gatherings and non-essential travel in and
around downtown and Garden City should be avoided this afternoon."
Frenzied protesters
could been seen Tuesday afternoon holding up bits of a shredded American
flag to television camera crews while chanting anti-U.S. slogans.
An embassy phone
operator told CNN that the compound had been cleared of diplomatic
personnel earlier in the day, ahead of the apparent threat, while
Egyptian riot police and the army were called in.
"This is an expression
of a feeling that is thought to be an insult," said Nizih El Naggary, a
spokesman for the Egyptian Foreign Ministry. "But events like this are
extremely deplorable. And we have to work to get things under control."
The Foreign Ministry
issued a statement Tuesday, pledging to protect embassies and warning of
the protests' potentially debilitating effects on the Egyptian economy.
"There are police forces
at the demonstrations," El Naggary said. "They should be protecting the
embassy and asking people to leave."
Several individuals
claimed responsibility for organizing the demonstrations Tuesday,
including Salafist leader Wesam Abdel-Wareth, who is president of
Egypt's conservative Hekma television channel.
Mohamed al-Zawahiri --
the brother of al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri -- added, "We called
for the peaceful protest joined by different Islamic factions including
the Islamic Jihad (and the) Hazem Abu Ismael movement."
"We were surprised to
see the big numbers show up, including the soccer Ultra fans," he said.
"I just want to say, how would the Americans feel if films insulting
leading Christian figures like the pope or historical figures like
Abraham Lincoln were produced?"
He added that "the film portrays the prophet in a very ugly manner, alluding to topics like sex, which is not acceptable."

The U.S. Embassy in Cairo announced that it had canceled visa services for Wednesday.
It also said in a
statement that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided
individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn
efforts to offend believers of all religions."
"Respect for religious
beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We
firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of
free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."
Demonstrations elicited a
mixture of reactions from the Egyptian street, where last year tens of
thousands turned out in opposition to former Egyptian President Hosni
Mubarak.
This summer, Egypt's
first Islamist president, Mohamed Morsy, was sworn into power at Tahrir
Square, the scene of the nation's revolution in 2011.
Though Tuesday's embassy
protests are the first that Morsy has dealt with, Egypt recently
produced similar scenarios when protesters attacked the Israeli and
Syrian embassies in unrelated episodes.
"These protests are a
bad image for Egypt," said a Cairo street vendor named Ahmed. "Of course
I'm against insulting Islam, but it's the undereducated, poor people
who are out here causing problems."
"All I want for Egypt is security and stability," he said. "And as you can see this isn't it."

The incident occurred on
the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks as crowds gathered across the
United States in somber remembrance of a day that left nearly 3,000
people dead.
Tuesday's focus on the
controversial film also drew comparisons to outcry generated from a 2008
movie produced by an anti-Muslim Dutch lawmaker, which then sought to
portray Islam as a violent religion.
Geert Wilders' film
"Fitna," which he released online, featured images of terrorist acts
superimposed over verses from the Quran.

the movie is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsiwb2x0tLI&

aa1911 · 09-11-2012, 10:42 PM

but it's a peaceful religion, right?

crikey. these stories are popping up all over various news sources today, radio, TV, internet (well duh, right..). Spent some time this morning going thru 9/11 footage, it puts a knot in your stomach even 11 years later. That tuesday morning that turned us from a peace time army to mobilization for a decade plus war.

al45lc · 09-12-2012, 09:40 AM

Well, if someone insulted Christians or Christ we wouldn't commit Murder now would we?
You see, Christians condemn murder under ALL circumstances, whereas it's fine for Islamic fundamentalists to murder infidels.
And THAT'S the difference, isn't it?
And yet they insist on respect for their religion?
The very fact that this clown doesn't understand that Christians wouldn't act this way is indictitive of their lack of understanding of our beliefs.
Or the fact that they really don't care.

jbmid1 · 09-12-2012, 09:42 AM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...lled-in-libya/

This just in.
So, how's that intervention in Lybya workin out for us?

MadScotsMan · 09-12-2012, 11:05 AM

Got this when I tried to view the video:

"لقطات من فيلم محمد رسول الا..."
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party.

WHSmithIV · 09-12-2012, 11:51 AM

yep - they killed our Ambassador in Libya plus a couple more of our people. Sh%theads.

tcox4freedom · 09-12-2012, 12:03 PM

I say we bring all of our troops home IMMEDIATELY!
Tell our allies they have 1month to evacuate the region. Then we return the whole region back into sand & glass.

Extreme force is the only thing these people will understand.

-

ampaterry · 09-12-2012, 12:38 PM

Tim -

+1

We need to end this cult of death - ASAP.

Prizefighter · 09-12-2012, 01:09 PM

The victim blaming, "US had it coming," and "Christians are just as bad!" game has already begun. The double standard is sickening.

What did muslims do to earn such blind support? Particularly from people who would otherwise scoff at religion?

al45lc · 09-12-2012, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prizefighter

The victim blaming, "US had it coming," and "Christians are just as bad!" game has already begun. The double standard is sickening.

What did muslims do to earn such blind support? Particularly from people who would otherwise scoff at religion?

The Muslims kill people, that's what they do to get 'support'.
Cowards will ALWAYS support that which they fear, out of fear of retribution.
Christians rarely kill for being insulted, Muslims do it ALL the time.
So insulting or demonizing Christians is NOT risky, as it is to demonize Muslims.
Otherwise, these lefty liberals would be ALL OVER the Muslims, for their treatment of women and children if nothing else.
It's the ONLY thing that makes sense, if Christians treated women and children and animals as the Muslims do, they would be ostracized all over the world. Unless they just started killing people of course.
It's amazing how these so called "progressives" can support such a religion and people, when just about everything the Muslims stand for is what the liberals rail against!
So Christian bashing is a "safe" sport for these hypocrits, whereas I would challenge ANY lefty who claims Islam to be a 'good' or peaceful religion to go to any large Muslim city and talk about what Islam needs to do to treat women better.
How do you suppose THAT would end? "Stoning" comes to mind.

WHSmithIV · 09-12-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadScotsMan

Got this when I tried to view the video:

"لقطات من فيلم محمد رسول الا..."
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party.

I think the Islamists probably hacked Youtube. However, Youtube has fixed it and the film works - I just took a look.

Prizefighter · 09-12-2012, 04:44 PM

I don't expect this to be much comfort, but I think it's worth sharing. It's been said that the peaceable muslims of the world should speak out against radical islamists. There's a demonstration in a Libyan city doing just that.

"Chris Stevens was a friend to all Libyans"
"Benghazi is against terrorism"
"Thugs and killers don't represent Benghazi nor Islam"
"Sorry people of America this is not the behavior of our Islam and Profit (Prophet)"

(Originally seen at Reddit)

ampaterry · 09-12-2012, 04:57 PM

We just watched it too.

THAT caused riots and murder?

Goog grief, it was about as serious as Monty Python's The Life of Brian, and no one rioted over the insult to Christ in that one -

If they wish to join the 21st century, the Islamist moon-worshipers need to grow some skin.

therewolf · 09-12-2012, 05:05 PM

The middle east has been exploited by Western Civ since the

medieval crusades.

To many nationals in that part of the world, we

are just another set of evil crusaders...

firefighter1635 · 09-12-2012, 05:13 PM

The whole of the Middle east is in need of a "reset" so to speek, and if obozo gets re-elected it won't be long before it happens.

cycloneman · 09-12-2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefighter1635

The whole of the Middle east is in need of a "reset" so to speek, and if obozo gets re-elected it won't be long before it happens.

i been saying that for a long time

jack404 · 09-12-2012, 05:42 PM

you cant grow a hide thick enough to cover a fake Terry

and islam is a fake cult opretending to be a great faith

its a weak evil ideaology followed by idiots

Prizefighter · 09-15-2012, 12:03 AM

Seems like there is not one person in either the liberal or muslim worlds that understands this worldwide violence is proving the sentiment of that goofy movie right.

09-11-2012, 10:24 PM	#1
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally Cairo -- Angry protesters attacked U.S. diplomatic compounds in Libya and Egypt on Tuesday, citing in both instances an online film considered offensive to Islam. In Cairo, several men scaled the walls of the U.S. Embassy and tore down its American flag, according to CNN producer Mohammed Fahmy, who was on the scene. In Libya, witnesses say members of a radical Islamist group called Ansar al-Sharia protested near the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, where NATO jets established no-fly zones last year to blunt ground attacks from then Libyan strongman Moammar Gadhafi. The group then clashed with security forces in the city, blocking roads leading to the consulate, witnesses said. The Libyan government notified the United States that an employee at the U.S. Consulate was killed, a State Department official told CNN. The State Department does not have independent confirmation of the death, the official said. The nationality of the worker was not immediately known. In Egypt, police and army personnel formed defensive lines around the U.S. Embassy in an effort to prevent demonstrators from advancing, but not before the protesters affixed a black flag atop a ladder in the American compound. The black flag, which hangs in full view from inside the complex, is adorned with white characters that read, "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger," an emblem often used by Islamic radicals. A volley of warning shots were fired as a large crowd gathered around the compound, although it is not clear who fired the shots. Egyptian groups point to U.S. websites, including YouTube, that have scenes from the film. Some anti-Muslim blogs also have flagged the movie. In a series of disjointed scenes, filmmakers depict Prophet Mohammed as a child molester, womanizer and ruthless killer. Most of the Muslim world considers depictions of Mohammed to be blasphemous and deeply offensive. It was not clear late Tuesday who produced the film and under what auspices. Embassy officials issued a warning to Americans in Egypt, telling them to avoid the demonstrations which "may gather in front of the U.S. Embassy, or Egyptian government buildings such as the People's Assembly and Ministry of Interior." "It is unclear if large numbers will take to the streets, but clashes may occur should two opposing groups come into contact with one another," the U.S. Embassy said in a statement. "Large gatherings and non-essential travel in and around downtown and Garden City should be avoided this afternoon." Frenzied protesters could been seen Tuesday afternoon holding up bits of a shredded American flag to television camera crews while chanting anti-U.S. slogans. An embassy phone operator told CNN that the compound had been cleared of diplomatic personnel earlier in the day, ahead of the apparent threat, while Egyptian riot police and the army were called in. "This is an expression of a feeling that is thought to be an insult," said Nizih El Naggary, a spokesman for the Egyptian Foreign Ministry. "But events like this are extremely deplorable. And we have to work to get things under control." The Foreign Ministry issued a statement Tuesday, pledging to protect embassies and warning of the protests' potentially debilitating effects on the Egyptian economy. "There are police forces at the demonstrations," El Naggary said. "They should be protecting the embassy and asking people to leave." Several individuals claimed responsibility for organizing the demonstrations Tuesday, including Salafist leader Wesam Abdel-Wareth, who is president of Egypt's conservative Hekma television channel. Mohamed al-Zawahiri -- the brother of al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri -- added, "We called for the peaceful protest joined by different Islamic factions including the Islamic Jihad (and the) Hazem Abu Ismael movement." "We were surprised to see the big numbers show up, including the soccer Ultra fans," he said. "I just want to say, how would the Americans feel if films insulting leading Christian figures like the pope or historical figures like Abraham Lincoln were produced?" He added that "the film portrays the prophet in a very ugly manner, alluding to topics like sex, which is not acceptable." The U.S. Embassy in Cairo announced that it had canceled visa services for Wednesday. It also said in a statement that it "condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims -- as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions." "Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy," the statement said. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others." Demonstrations elicited a mixture of reactions from the Egyptian street, where last year tens of thousands turned out in opposition to former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. This summer, Egypt's first Islamist president, Mohamed Morsy, was sworn into power at Tahrir Square, the scene of the nation's revolution in 2011. Though Tuesday's embassy protests are the first that Morsy has dealt with, Egypt recently produced similar scenarios when protesters attacked the Israeli and Syrian embassies in unrelated episodes. "These protests are a bad image for Egypt," said a Cairo street vendor named Ahmed. "Of course I'm against insulting Islam, but it's the undereducated, poor people who are out here causing problems." "All I want for Egypt is security and stability," he said. "And as you can see this isn't it." The incident occurred on the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks as crowds gathered across the United States in somber remembrance of a day that left nearly 3,000 people dead. Tuesday's focus on the controversial film also drew comparisons to outcry generated from a 2008 movie produced by an anti-Muslim Dutch lawmaker, which then sought to portray Islam as a violent religion. Geert Wilders' film "Fitna," which he released online, featured images of terrorist acts superimposed over verses from the Quran. the movie is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsiwb2x0tLI& --> Last edited by jack404; 09-11-2012 at 11:06 PM..

09-11-2012, 10:42 PM	#2
aa1911 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 3,115	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally but it's a peaceful religion, right? crikey. these stories are popping up all over various news sources today, radio, TV, internet (well duh, right..). Spent some time this morning going thru 9/11 footage, it puts a knot in your stomach even 11 years later. That tuesday morning that turned us from a peace time army to mobilization for a decade plus war. __________________ "Loud noises don't end gunfights.... well placed shots do."

09-12-2012, 09:40 AM	#3
al45lc Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: colorful colorado Posts: 1,016	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally Well, if someone insulted Christians or Christ we wouldn't commit Murder now would we? You see, Christians condemn murder under ALL circumstances, whereas it's fine for Islamic fundamentalists to murder infidels. And THAT'S the difference, isn't it? And yet they insist on respect for their religion? The very fact that this clown doesn't understand that Christians wouldn't act this way is indictitive of their lack of understanding of our beliefs. Or the fact that they really don't care. __________________ You are what you do, when it counts.

09-12-2012, 09:42 AM	#4
jbmid1 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,078	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...lled-in-libya/ This just in. So, how's that intervention in Lybya workin out for us? __________________ You can't be too rich, too thin, or have too much firepower.

09-12-2012, 11:05 AM	#5
MadScotsMan V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 156	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally Got this when I tried to view the video: "لقطات من فيلم محمد رسول الا..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by a third party.

09-12-2012, 11:51 AM	#6
WHSmithIV Advanced Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Moore, Idaho contributor Posts: 2,634	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally yep - they killed our Ambassador in Libya plus a couple more of our people. Sh%theads.

09-12-2012, 12:03 PM	#7
tcox4freedom Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 944	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally I say we bring all of our troops home IMMEDIATELY! Tell our allies they have 1month to evacuate the region. Then we return the whole region back into sand & glass. Extreme force is the only thing these people will understand. -

09-12-2012, 12:38 PM	#8
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,291	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally Tim - +1 We need to end this cult of death - ASAP. __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

09-12-2012, 01:09 PM	#9
Prizefighter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Contributor Posts: 412	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally The victim blaming, "US had it coming," and "Christians are just as bad!" game has already begun. The double standard is sickening. What did muslims do to earn such blind support? Particularly from people who would otherwise scoff at religion? Last edited by Prizefighter; 09-12-2012 at 01:11 PM..

09-12-2012, 04:44 PM	#12
Prizefighter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Contributor Posts: 412	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally I don't expect this to be much comfort, but I think it's worth sharing. It's been said that the peaceable muslims of the world should speak out against radical islamists. There's a demonstration in a Libyan city doing just that. "Chris Stevens was a friend to all Libyans" "Benghazi is against terrorism" "Thugs and killers don't represent Benghazi nor Islam" "Sorry people of America this is not the behavior of our Islam and Profit (Prophet)" (Originally seen at Reddit) Last edited by Prizefighter; 09-12-2012 at 04:47 PM..

09-12-2012, 04:57 PM	#13
ampaterry TFF Admin Staff Chaplain Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: West Tennessee Contributor Posts: 6,291	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally We just watched it too. THAT caused riots and murder? Goog grief, it was about as serious as Monty Python's The Life of Brian, and no one rioted over the insult to Christ in that one - If they wish to join the 21st century, the Islamist moon-worshipers need to grow some skin. __________________ A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. Larry Elder

09-12-2012, 05:05 PM	#14
therewolf V.I.P. Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: New Port Richey, Fl. Posts: 159	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally The middle east has been exploited by Western Civ since the medieval crusades. To many nationals in that part of the world, we are just another set of evil crusaders...

09-12-2012, 05:13 PM	#15
firefighter1635 Advanced Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: US of A Contributor Posts: 1,837	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally The whole of the Middle east is in need of a "reset" so to speek, and if obozo gets re-elected it won't be long before it happens.

09-12-2012, 05:42 PM	#17
jack404 Former Guest Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Australia Contributor Posts: 17,622	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally you cant grow a hide thick enough to cover a fake Terry and islam is a fake cult opretending to be a great faith its a weak evil ideaology followed by idiots

09-15-2012, 12:03 AM	#18
Prizefighter V.I.P. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: North Carolina Contributor Posts: 412	Re: Movie sets islamic world on fire 54 attacks on embassies globally Seems like there is not one person in either the liberal or muslim worlds that understands this worldwide violence is proving the sentiment of that goofy movie right.