Now, this is some fine police work

[Double D]

Heres another one of those cops using force when they really need to. I am glad he calls for backup, maybe they will bring a taser! Im so proud!

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012...d-refusal?lite

[Alpo]

So, if this was a 20-year-old guy that refused to produce a license or insurance paper, and when told that, "If you don't produce them I will arrest you", snottily said, "Well go ahead then", and when the officer then tried to arrest him, he fought and resisted, while blowing his horn to attract attention so someone could cell-phone-video the "police brutality", that would be all right.

But since it was a 77-year-old woman that did all that, it was a terrible thing he did?

Most of these "the cops over-reacted" videos, I agree that the cop was wrong.

In this one he was completely right.

You don't want to get dragged out of your car, handcuffed and taken to the cop-shop?

Then don't commit a crime, and if/when you do commit the crime, obey the lawful orders the cop gives you.

[clamman]

She deserved everything she got

[CCHolderinMaine]

Originally Posted by Alpo

So, if this was a 20-year-old guy that refused to produce a license or insurance paper, and when told that, "If you don't produce them I will arrest you", snottily said, "Well go ahead then", and when the officer then tried to arrest him, he fought and resisted, while blowing his horn to attract attention so someone could cell-phone-video the "police brutality", that would be all right.

But since it was a 77-year-old woman that did all that, it was a terrible thing he did?

Most of these "the cops over-reacted" videos, I agree that the cop was wrong.

In this one he was completely right.

You don't want to get dragged out of your car, handcuffed and taken to the cop-shop?

Then don't commit a crime, and if/when you do commit the crime, obey the lawful orders the cop gives you.

^yep^

[Brisk44]

When dealling with the elderely they can be completely unreasonable sometimes and difficult to handle. He had already called for backup so why not wait and use some finesse when they get there?

[cycloneman]

I dont care if you is my mama. You gona respect my authoriti or Im gona skull **** you to death. GET IN MY POLICE CAR YOU BANDIT YOU.

Good thing that aint my mama boy.

YOu can treat a punk on dope like that but not your elder. I dont care who you think you are. You be gator bait. Got to have alittle finesse with old people.


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/77-...169569466.html

[DixieLandMan]

The cop was right. The age thing has no difference. He politely asked her serveral times for ID and the she started being a witch and disrespectful. She deserved it.

[Sig Willy]

I guess he would've waited for backup but he asked her if she wants to go to jail she said yes so he complied.

Stupid broad.

[Double D]

NOPE, Cops are over reacting every day and it continues to get worse and worse. The lady should have shown her drivers license. But, when she didnt, he flipped out. Cops are flipping out over nothing. Its my opinion that if they cant handle the situation any better than this, they need to push a pencil.

[Double D]

Originally Posted by Brisk44

When dealling with the elderely they can be completely unreasonable sometimes and difficult to handle. He had already called for backup so why not wait and use some finesse when they get there?

Finally some common sense! How difficult would it have been to get grannys drivers license and handle the situation without completely wigging out and losing composure? If you deal with a situation as minimal as this with so much aggression, what do you do under a stressful situation? I can tell you...you lose complete control.

[CCHolderinMaine]

Originally Posted by Double D

NOPE, Cops are over reacting every day and it continues to get worse and worse. The lady should have shown her drivers license. But, when she didnt, he flipped out. Cops are flipping out over nothing. Its my opinion that if they cant handle the situation any better than this, they need to push a pencil.

Without question the cop could've handled this better in a hundred ways.

The woman completely disregarded the officer's authority, then was surprised when it went badly.
We've become a society where the first move is escalate the situation, not find a solution.
It's just frustrating when people act surprised, and then blame others for the easily predictable results of their actions.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by Double D

NOPE, Cops are over reacting every day and it continues to get worse and worse. The lady should have shown her drivers license. But, when she didnt, he flipped out. Cops are flipping out over nothing. Its my opinion that if they cant handle the situation any better than this, they need to push a pencil.

I posted a thread about the same thing before i saw this.

There is no end to it DD. The tax payers dont pay for the police anymore. Everytime someone gets pulled over it is at least a couple hundred to a couple of thousand dollars in fees, court cost and who know what else. There is allways something wrong with your ride, broken tail light, something, and if you look hard enough you will find something to write a ticket for. So there is no shortage of police. Just hire more and it pays for itself. Part of the master plan to make you submit to the new world order.

OK pull over let me see your papers and i will be confiscating your guns, money, and your kids. Outta control, I have nothing against LEO's. But there are way too many to keep on the public dole and i see how they do it. It is all funded and generated with the routine traffic stop. They make it sound like it is part of your routine maintance every 3000 mile or 6 months which ever comes first.


I said it and i am glad this was not my mom. She is 77 and slow. Old enough to be his mother. I am sure they could have come to an understanding. Couldn't you tell the woman was shocked that punk was treating her like that? She has been alive before automatic doors were installed at the grocery store, before tv, the microwave and dishwasher for Christ sake. Yep she was speeding cause she was about to piss herself looking for a bathroom. He didn't care, nope, "piss on yourself lady" but your gona show me that GD drivers liscense before i skull **** you. Kiss the asphalt bee-I-tch!

[Double D]

I admit she was wrong for not showing her license. But, I am sure a little diplomacy would have cured the situation. Does the cop have to use diplomacy? No. Should he in a situation like that? If your a grown up adult man, yes. I have just got to the point that I have lost faith and respect for cops and I hate to say that. I know they have a job to do. But if you cant defuse a minor traffic situation such as that without brute force, maybe you should retire.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by Double D

I admit she was wrong for not showing her license. But, I am sure a little diplomacy would have cured the situation. Does the cop have to use diplomacy? No. Should he in a situation like that? If your a grown up adult man, yes. I have just got to the point that I have lost faith and respect for cops and I hate to say that. I know they have a job to do. But if you cant defuse a minor traffic situation such as that without brute force, maybe you should retire.

Retire?????? They are being trained to do it this way. Go ahead someone tell me i am wrong. The dept is standing behind the cop. Nothing wrong here, this is the way it is. No more days of the sheriff knowing everybody in the city and everyone getting along. Gone man, gone.

I am serious about the new world order too. They found a way to hire butt loads of police and make it pay for itself.

[CCHolderinMaine]

Originally Posted by Double D

I admit she was wrong for not showing her license. But, I am sure a little diplomacy would have cured the situation. Does the cop have to use diplomacy? No. Should he in a situation like that? If your a grown up adult man, yes. I have just got to the point that I have lost faith and respect for cops and I hate to say that. I know they have a job to do. But if you cant defuse a minor traffic situation such as that without brute force, maybe you should retire.

Sadly, just like the rest of us at times, cops fall prey to the enormous pressures of society and behave in a way we never want them to. It's a scary aspect of 21st century life. What if your doctor is stressed out and has a bad day? Not good.

[cycloneman]

Originally Posted by CCHolderinMaine

Sadly, just like the rest of us at times, cops fall prey to the enormous pressures of society and behave in a way we never want them to. It's a scary aspect of 21st century life. What if your doctor is stressed out and has a bad day? Not good.

What? that is no excuse for a grown man to take a 77 yr old woman and drag her out of her vehicle and make her kiss the asphalt.

Have a bad day lets see what to do what to do

1. go home and not hurt anyone anymore, take a day off

2. pull over granny and drag her in the asphalt

[aa1911]

sounds like she got her wish. I cooperate with police and treat them respectfully and they tend to do the same!

[CCHolderinMaine]

Originally Posted by cycloneman

What? that is no excuse for a grown man to take a 77 yr old woman and drag her out of her vehicle and make her kiss the asphalt.

Have a bad day lets see what to do what to do

1. go home and not hurt anyone anymore, take a day off

2. pull over granny and drag her in the asphalt

Wait a minute....I agree with you. This cop acted horribly. This woman acted horribly. My only point is that she acted surprised when she initially was in the wrong. She freaked out and challenged the cops authority. My God, she could've gotten SHOT. Yes, the cop would've been as wrong as could possibly be, she might've been DEAD. Just give him the license, and don't add fuel to the fire. Be aware that if you do throw gas on the fire, you might get burned. You might be 100% right, but still come out on the short end. The best won fight is one you don't start...err something like that...

[Double D]

You got it right..she challenged his AUTHORITY. That authority is the whole problem. Power tripping authority.

[cycloneman]

She had a problem and told that to the cop first thing. When a older person tells you something personal like that you listen. Understand she is probably embarrased and cant just whip it out and pee on a tree stump like you and I can. So she has a problem we (men) dont understand or know how it feels. I would have said lets go to the nearest bathroom and we can sort this out afterwards.

If a baby was poping out her vagina this cop would have been pushing the head back in and demanding a liscense before she gave birth. All i am saying.

[CCHolderinMaine]

Originally Posted by Double D

You got it right..she challenged his AUTHORITY. That authority is the whole problem. Power tripping authority.

I agree, this guy's power went to his head and he went way overboard. But, I do submit and stand by that without a LEO's implied authority, he cannot do his job.

[firefighter1635]

I'm suprised he didn't taser her actually. She's 77 years old and has a bladder infection that makes her have to piss very often and urgently for christs sakes. If I was her I'd have pissed in the back of the cruiser once I was there.

Calls for backup but can't wait for it to get there, oh no I need to get this crazy woman under control NOW! He's just another POS SOB that must have been bullied in school.

[wannauseit]

I think both could have been a little more cooperative. But, she escalated this situation when she interrupted him with "Okay, alright. Let's hurry this up" while he is notifying her of why she has been pulled over. He asked for her license and she refused. If she really wanted to "hurry" this up, she would have cooperated.

He could have been a little easier on her (and they both would have been there all day), but she was a smart-butt, and non-compliant from the first time she opened her mouth. His finesse was at the start of the video when he stated (or tried to) why she was pulled over. I don't think it mattered how he handled it, she was going to fight it.

I guess he could have walked away and let her go, as well as anyone else in the future.

[Nighthawk]

Originally Posted by wannauseit

I think both could have been a little more cooperative. But, she escalated this situation when she interrupted him with "Okay, alright. Let's hurry this up" while he is notifying her of why she has been pulled over. He asked for her license and she refused. If she really wanted to "hurry" this up, she would have cooperated.

He could have been a little easier on her (and they both would have been there all day), but she was a smart-butt, and non-compliant from the first time she opened her mouth. His finesse was at the start of the video when he stated (or tried to) why she was pulled over. I don't think it mattered how he handled it, she was going to fight it.

I guess he could have walked away and let her go, as well as anyone else in the future.

ditto

[Gun Geezer]

Originally Posted by cycloneman

She had a problem and told that to the cop first thing. When a older person tells you something personal like that you listen. Understand she is probably embarrased and cant just whip it out and pee on a tree stump like you and I can. So she has a problem we (men) dont understand or know how it feels. I would have said lets go to the nearest bathroom and we can sort this out afterwards.

If a baby was poping out her vagina this cop would have been pushing the head back in and demanding a liscense before she gave birth. All i am saying.

Exactly!!!!